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Spam report thread too long by now?

Mar 21, 2011 7:28 AM

The present Spam report thread [4] was initiated over a year ago when the old thread was 190 messages long, because "...the previous thread ... has served its purpose but is getting too long to be read comfortably on mobile devices". Well, the present thread has well exceeded that mark, as it was 422 messages long at the time I started to write this message.

 

Wouldn't it be time to let the present thread rest in peace by the same argument that led to the closing of the previous one? Not that I use mobile devices to visit these forums, but...

 
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    Mar 21, 2011 8:22 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    As long as a new one is created in  its place. Would be proper thing to do.

     
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    Jul 13, 2011 11:05 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    Claudio González wrote:

     

    Well, the present Spam thread is already 476 messages long. Time to replace it by a new one?

     

     

    Good idea.  The maximum page length should be kept at 2 IMO.  The current one has 10; It will be nearly 11 by tomorrow unless you can act today!

     
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    Jul 13, 2011 8:15 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    It doesn't really bother me how long the spam report topic is, as it is separated into pages (@ 50 posts?).

     

    Still I think it is not a bad idea to start a new thread from time to time.  Feel free to start a new topic, and a passing moderator will close the old thread.

     
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    Jul 14, 2011 7:52 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    Claudio González wrote:

     

    Addition: I see that the [5] Spam thread is now locked, but I see no sign of a replacement one. Is such a thread considered no longer necessary?

     

    I am sure that was the long answer from Jochem.

     

    Claudio, we are waiting for your starting Spam report thread [5].

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Jul 14, 2011 8:42 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    Why does the length of the thread matter one iota?

     

    Isn't the important factor that the Admin is being notified of additions to the thread (e.g., by eMail)?

     

    Right now I have a spammer to report and no thread to report it to....

     

    Almost, sort of, quasi-legitimate somewhat on-topic spammer:  http://forums.adobe.com/people/Camille%20Wu

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 8:15 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    Hi Claudio:

     

    Spam report thread [5] locked at 477 messages (including Pat's last post with 'redirecting link') in 12 pages. Spam report thread [6] is now at 435 posts/Page 11...

     

    Is it time-coming for version [7] ?

    Not that I think it's your responsability but...

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 22, 2012 8:54 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    Rick, why should it matter how long it gets?

     

    Isn't the point that the admins are monitoring the traffic in that thread?

     

    Making a new thread would help what, exactly?  They'd have to go through a bunch of work to make it do just what it's doing now.

     

    No change is needed.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 2:42 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    Alternative to closing the thread and starting a new one, how about deleting the old messages and keeping only the one month's reports?  Surely, old messages are of no use to anybody because they don't solve anything apart from spammer's accounts being disabled or deleted.

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:18 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    My vote is for a simple continuation.

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 22, 2012 7:45 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    Claudio González wrote:

     

    About two years ago we were given a reason that for me sounded quite reasonable

     

    It might have been a problem to display the entirety of a 400+ post thread, but it seems that now the forum breaks threads up into only a certian number per page anyway, so maybe there is no reason now.

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 8:21 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    You're making the assumption that there is a master plan, executed by people with everything under control.  LOL!

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 8:23 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    As mentioned earlier in this topic, the most efficient way of reporting spam/spammers is by using the Report link.

     
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    Aug 23, 2012 4:49 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    I also remember the words of John, and for that reason I have used the thread (and those before it), never the report link.

     
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    Aug 23, 2012 9:05 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    It is useful for me. I get email notifications of new messages in the thread and can jump in and take care of the account.

     

    The "abuse" reports can include a variety of things and involve searching through the queue to find spam. Not efficient for me. So, yes, keep the thread. But I don't have any preference about keeping the long thread going or starting a new one. If someone starts a new one I'll close the old one, or delete it.

     
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    Aug 24, 2012 2:26 AM   in reply to Claudio González

    Claudio González wrote:

    So, unless someone has good reasons to consider the Spam thread is too long...

    So, I guess that original and main reason (too long to be read comfortably on mobile devices) as stated three years ago and invoked last year, wasn't then so certain or isn't longer valid this year. In fact, no admin mentioned it before but that would use e-mail notifications better.

     

    I suggest that we leave it as it is, and continue reporting as requested.

    Copied & Agreed!

     

    Would you agree then Claudio that adobe-admin's answer above is best to close this your own-old thread?

     

    Cheers

     
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    Aug 24, 2012 12:37 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    Perhaps Rick is suggesting you mark Admin's answer as The Answer, so that people don't keep trying to provide new answers (in essence closing the conversation).

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 24, 2012 2:34 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    With a bit of luck we can have this thread reopened every year, especially if it remains a black blob.

     
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    Aug 24, 2012 7:51 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Jacob Bugge wrote:

     

    I also remember the words of John, and for that reason I have used the thread (and those before it), never the report link.

    I do not recally John saying not to use the Report link.  For moderators the Report link is much more useful, for several reasons

    1. they can see that someone has reported something, wherever they are in the forum, and can take immediate action
    2. after a moderator has taken action, the report will be gone, and no other moderator needs to look at it
    3. for reports in the Spam topic, each moderator must check and see if there are any "leftovers" from a reported spammer
     
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    Aug 24, 2012 11:15 PM   in reply to Claudio González

    Claudio González wrote:

     

    Not sure which thread you are suggesting to close, but as a mere user, I have no power to close any thread.

    I'm referring to this one thread (not the Spam report thread [6])... and sorry, I didn't mean to close it but to mark it as answered, or it isn't?

     
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    Aug 24, 2012 11:17 PM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    Noel Carboni wrote:

     

    Perhaps Rick is suggesting you mark Admin's answer as The Answer, so that people don't keep trying to provide new answers (in essence closing the conversation).

     

    -Noel

    +1

     
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    Aug 25, 2012 2:09 AM   in reply to Pat Willener

    Pat,

     

    I do not recally John saying not to use the Report link.

     

    Neither do I.

     

    For moderators the Report link is much more useful, for several reasons

     

    This may make me reconsider, and maybe do both as does Claudio.

     
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