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Smudge brush not working like in regular Photoshop

Aug 26, 2012 12:42 PM

I just got Touch  for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 yesterday.  I needed a blending/smudging capability and saw that the toolset for Touch had both blur and smudge.  So I got it.  Blur seems to work fine...but smudge only seemed to darken my colors and formed a wierd edge, hard edge betwee the colors.  Not at all like in the regular Photoshop...I have CS6.

 

I am thinking of returning the Tab 2 and getting the Note instead which has pressure sensitivity (or so I have heard)...but if there is no decent paint program out that will allow for halfway decent blending then I will simply return the Tab and wait a bit longer for the paint programs to evolve in this new format.

 

Has anyone else noticed this effect with smudge?  Is there a setting that will make it work like it's full fledged cousin?

 

Thanks

 
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  • greule
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    Aug 27, 2012 12:34 AM   in reply to michaelws

    Hi. Could you please post a screenshot of the result you're seeing.

     

     

     

    Thanks,

    Guido

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 2:45 PM   in reply to michaelws

    Smudge tool is working fine here.

    I'm using PS Touch on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, running ICS.

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 7:11 PM   in reply to michaelws

    Hi Michal.

    I tried the smudge tool the way your screenshot shows; blank canvas and the same two colors.

    Yep, same thing here. I tried several different settings with brush size and strength. But I don't get that behaviour when working with a photograph.

    With a photo, the smudge tool works fine. In the back of my mind, I have an idea of what's occuring in your example which I can duplicate here, but I'm having trouble putting words to it (the drawbacks of a 63 year old brain lol).

    Anyway, I don't see it as a problem unless your example is what you want to do with the tool.

    As for the Note 10.1, I haven't as yet tried one, but I've seen several videos demonstrating it.

    It looks like a killer tablet, and is in my sights. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 is terrific. With the recent upgrade to the ICS operating system, and a third party launcher (Nova), it's hard to imagine getting better, but the Note looks like it is. I would think Photoshop Touch runs like a rocket on the Note. Tweaking with the pressure sensitivity of the stylus might do all kinds of nice adjustments, but again, I haven't tried one yet. You've got a great combo with PS Touch on a Galaxy Note 10.1.

    Hope I've helped a bit.

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 6:24 AM   in reply to michaelws

    Hi Michael.

    I just re-read your OP, and see that you have the Galaxy 2, 10.1, not the Galaxy Note.

    Tough gettin' old.

    Anyway, glad to help.

     
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    Oct 23, 2012 7:59 AM   in reply to Jacksmyname1

    I'm also having problems with the smudge/blur brush. My tablet (Samsung Note 10.1) was bought so I could do my work on the fly using a touch sensitive stylus with Photoshop. However the smudge brush simply isn't working as it should and this all but renders PS redundant in my portable work flow as I use this particular brush a lot.

     

    Like the original poster my smudge brush seems to be simultaneously burning/darkening. The harder I lean the more the image underneath darkens. Likewise if I lift the pen off between strokes each successive stroke darkens. Do it a sufficient amount of times and I end up with black even if I'm blending along the edge of 2 pale hues! I'm a very experienced Photoshop user so I'm fairly confident that the fault lies not with my brush settings but rather seems to be an unwanted side effect of the brush.

     

    As the Note tablet is a new device I'm guessing that there will be more complaints about this popping up as and when the Note becomes more popular as a creative tool. Meantime I find myself unable to do the work I bought the tablet for in the first place.

     

    Any ideas what software I can use to work around this? I need something which will allow me to work in layers with a smudge tool enabling me to - for example -  smudge and blend cross hatched lines to create a highly finished tonal surface. Ordinarily I would use PS for this! The ability to import this precisely smudged image into PS Touch for further editing would be a large bonus.

     
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:22 PM   in reply to michaelws

    Out of curiosity, I tried to repro:

     

    Screenshot_2012-10-23-15-01-00.png

    Screenshot_2012-10-23-15-02-44.png

    The smudge brush was around 50 wide (opacity and flow at 100); 75 strength. It did push the pixels around and blend them but I can't seem to repro the "burning". effect.

     

    Using a Motorola Xoom (Wi-Fi model) running Jelly Bean 4.1.2. (Not rooted.)

     
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    Oct 23, 2012 12:46 PM   in reply to Warunicorn

    But you have reproduced the burn tool/ smudge effect.

    Here is my simulation in Photoshop CS6 using a properly functioning smudge brush below the dotted line:

     

    touchexample.png

    Everything is as it should be with no darkened pixels. Above the dotted line I have used a combination of the burn brush followed by the smudge tool to simulate the effect you have achieved. I'd say your image bears more in common with the top half result than it does with the bottom which confirms that the smudge brush isn't working properly.

     
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    Oct 24, 2012 8:54 AM   in reply to Ian Wylie

    Ian Wylie wrote:

     

    But you have reproduced the burn tool/ smudge effect.

    Here is my simulation in Photoshop CS6 using a properly functioning smudge brush below the dotted line:

     

    touchexample.png

    Everything is as it should be with no darkened pixels. Above the dotted line I have used a combination of the burn brush followed by the smudge tool to simulate the effect you have achieved. I'd say your image bears more in common with the top half result than it does with the bottom which confirms that the smudge brush isn't working properly.

    Yes, I see it now. (I tried this in Photoshop Elements too; I got exactly the result below the dotted line.) It's almost like PS Touch is shoving the same-colored pixels together, intensifying the shade while simply warping it with a different color.

     
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    Oct 24, 2012 10:00 PM   in reply to Warunicorn

    As I said in my original post this fault basically makes Photoshop on my tablet useless as I use this brush more than any other. I need another app.

     
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    Oct 25, 2012 11:41 AM   in reply to michaelws

    Hello. I have the same problems on my note 10.1. But the problem with smudge tool is just the most noticable from a bunch of similar problems with other tools. For example blur tool also change colors. What is even more strange simple brush tool also change  colors when it have the same color as background and when opacity is low (10% for exmple).

     

    Here is my example. I have  used only one color to draw it. Only one color!

    Untitled3.png

    1 - blur

    2 - smudge

    3 - brush with the same color and low opacity.

     

    One more interesting thing is that in Play market you can find photoshop touch v1.3.0 ... but stock version that comes with the tablet still have v 1.2.0. Will it have an update somewhen?

     

    P.S. Sorry for my English

     
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    Oct 25, 2012 2:15 PM   in reply to Biliogadafr

    Yes I was going to mention that the Blur brush was broken too. Thanks for enlightening us about the other problems. It seems that Photoshop Touch is not fit for purpose, at least when it comes to compatibility with the Samsung Note 10.1. Adobe's quality control seems to be wanting somewhat.

     
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    Oct 26, 2012 9:44 AM   in reply to Ian Wylie

    Hi Ian,

     

    I would say that it's more a tablet hardware issue and a rather common one.

    I.e. it does not apply to a specific device or manufacturer.

     

    There's a limitation handling transparent pixels due to performance reasons.

    We are aware of the problem and are working on trying to find a solution.

     

    Thanks,

    Ignacio

     
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    Oct 26, 2012 12:43 PM   in reply to michaelws

    Yes thanks Ignacio.

     
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