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LR 4 Catalog Files

Aug 26, 2012 9:38 AM

I am confused about something.

 

I see various catalog files (LRCAT) on my hard drive.  It appears to me as if these are of 2 types.  First, there appears to be what I would call a single "working" LRCAT file.  It seems to always be updated, any time I make changes to my catalog.

 

Second, there appear to be Backup LRCAT files which are created when I exit Lightroom and I tell it to create a backup.  These types of files are created in folders with the format DATE & TIME.  Any time I create one of these Backup LRCAT files, I can direct it to what folder it should be saved in.  I currently have 4 or 5 of these....I do periodically delete older versions.

 

It does makes sense, but what I would like to know is how do you change the location of the "working" LRCAT file?  Right now, this "working" LRCAT file is in the following folder:

 

Pictures\Lightroom\Backups\2012-01-06 1552\Lightroom 4 Catalog.lrcat

 

The preview folder is also in Pictures\Lightroom\Backups\2012-01-06 1552.

 

I also should note that the old LR3 Catalog file and previews are in this same 2012-01-06 1552 folder.  I haven't deleted them, yet.

 

I can place the newer backup files in any location I want to when I am asked to.  However, I don't see how to change the location of the "working" backup.  I am not sure how this "working" backup got into the 2012-01-06 1552 folder, anyway, because I didn't upgrade from LR3 to LR4 until  a few months ago....I believe early June. 

 

I simply want to place it in a new folder because the name of the current one, 2012-01-06 1552, is confusing.  I want it to say something like "WORKING LRCAT FOLDER" or something like that.  I also want to keep it separate from the backups.  I could try to rename it, but I don't know if LR will then lose track of where it is.

 

Will I have to create a new Catalog in LR4 in order to put it where I want, and then re-import all of my photos?  What about the Preview folders and files?  I'd like to keep these in the same location as the Catalog files.

 
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    Aug 26, 2012 6:38 PM   in reply to Judge62

    Lightroom doesn't care what folder things are in, so in one sense, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. The easiest thing to do is to do nothing, and stop letting this issue bother you.

     

    Nevertheless, if you must, if your folder where the working catalog resides is named 2012-01-016 1552 and you want it to say "WORKING LRCAT FOLDER", then close Lightroom and use your operating system to rename the folder, and then double-click on the proper .LRCAT file.

     

    Will I have to create a new Catalog in LR4 in order to put it where I want, and then re-import all of my photos?  What about the Preview folders and files?  I'd like to keep these in the same location as the Catalog files.

    Extremely important rule of Lightroom usage, on an importance scale of 1 to 10, this rates at 197.8. NEVER RE-IMPORT PHOTOS! NEVER! NEVER! NOT EVEN ONCE! Did I mention you should never re-import photos? Because bad things can happen when you do that. That is all.

     

    In a similar vein, Lightroom is an excellent tool for managing your photos. You seem to be concerned with managing your catalog file, and in my opinion, that's not a direction you need to spend time and effort on. Manage your photos, not your catalog file.

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 4:10 AM   in reply to Judge62

    It's not a good idea to keep your Lightroom catalog on your system drive. So I would simply move it using your OS File manager to another drive or at least another partition. Then if you lose your system, you don't lose LR.

     

    Having moved the Lightroom folder (complete with previews etc), run LR by double-clicking on the LR catalog. LR will open and in your prefs you can tell it to always open this catalog from this location. If you want to rename the folder, do it before you click on the catalog and run it.

     

    As to backups, they do take up space but you can zip them to about 1/10th of their size, and then you don't need to bother about deleting so many. I keep loads of backup catalogs zipped; just incase I ever need to go back.

     

    Hope this helps,

     

    Bob Frost

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 4:14 AM   in reply to Judge62

    It is not a good idea to keep backups on the same disk as the original. In fact, in my opinion, it is mandatory that your backups go on a DIFFERENT physical disk than the original. The reason for this is that the disk which stores your original catalog will fail eventually. If you backups are also on this disk, then you have ZERO copies of your catalog. This is not a good thing. If your backups are on a different disk, you still have a very recent copy of your catalog.

     

    The gist of my question gets to where does LR create the new catalog, and do I have a say in where it gets put.

    Yes, you tell Lightroom where to put it. However, it is a good idea to have only one catalog for ALL your photos, unless there are subject matter reasons to keep them separate, for example like business and personal.

     

    What I was thinking initially was that I would delete the photos from the current catalog but not from the disk, and then I would reimport them into a new catalog that was created with a name I wanted.  That's why I asked the question the way I did.   But your solution should work, and it's a lot easier.

    Okay. Don't ever think about re-importing!

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 4:16 AM   in reply to bob frost

    bob frost wrote:

     

    It's not a good idea to keep your Lightroom catalog on your system drive. So I would simply move it using your OS File manager to another drive or at least another partition. Then if you lose your system, you don't lose LR.

    I have to disagree. There is no problem keeping Lightroom's catalog on your system drive If you have backups on a different physical disk (not a different partition of the same disk), then you are protected. Many people put the catalog on the system drive as it is often the fastest drive on most systems.

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 7:07 AM   in reply to dj_paige

    From: "dj_paige

    I have to disagree. There is no problem keeping Lightroom's catalog on

    your system drive If you have backups on a different physical disk (not a

    different partition of the same disk), then you are protected. Many people

    put the catalog on the system drive as it is often the fastest drive on

    most systems.

     

    It may be the fastest disk, but it is doing a hell of a lot of other things

    while LR is running. LR spends a lot of time reading and writing to temp

    files on the system disk, as well as all the OS stuff reading and writing.

    Just as PS works best if you give it another disk for the scratch files, I

    think you will find that LR works best if you put the catalog and previews

    on another, so reading and writing to them is not competing with the reads

    and writes on the system disk.

     

    And by not having your LR folder on the system disk, you don't have to go to

    backups of cat files, nor do you lose previews etc. It all remains ready for

    use when you reinstall the system.

     

    But YMMV.

     

    Bob Frost

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 7:40 AM   in reply to bob frost
    It may be the fastest disk, but it is doing a hell of a lot of other things

    while LR is running. LR spends a lot of time reading and writing to temp

    files on the system disk, as well as all the OS stuff reading and writing.

    Just as PS works best if you give it another disk for the scratch files, I

    think you will find that LR works best if you put the catalog and previews

    on another, so reading and writing to them is not competing with the reads

    and writes on the system disk.

     

    And by not having your LR folder on the system disk, you don't have to go to

    backups of cat files, nor do you lose previews etc. It all remains ready for

    use when you reinstall the system.

     

    But YMMV.

    Setting up disks to achieve max productivity is pretty far from the original topic. Your original statement was about what happens if you lose your system disk; it was not about setting up your disk for optimal performance.

     

    I agree that if you can do this, its a good idea, but not everyone has multiple internal disks.

     
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