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RGB colors change from InDesign to Photoshop

Aug 27, 2012 9:21 AM

Hi All,

 

I've created some web graphics in InDesign CS5, copy and paste into photoshop and the RGB values change. Not greatly, but they do not match exactly.

 

My colorspace is synced through Bridge, in sRGB mode in both InDesign and Photoshop.

 

Any thoughts why they would be different? Thanks.

 

Mac OS X 10.6.8

 
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    Aug 27, 2012 9:23 AM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    Copy and paste is not a reliable way to exchange images with Photoshop. Choose File > Export and select JPEG. Open the JPEG file in Photoshop.

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 10:36 AM   in reply to Steve Werner

    Export as PDF with no image compression, not as JPEG.

     
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  • Rob Day
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    Aug 27, 2012 11:04 AM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    My colorspace is synced through Bridge, in sRGB mode in both InDesign and Photoshop.

     

    Syncing matches up the Color Setting's Working Spaces, but not necessarily the document assignments. Did you make sure both the ID and PS documents have the same RGB assignments (Edit>Assign Profiles...)?

     

    As long as the doc assignments match I'm not seeing a problem in CS6—both the numbers and previews are correct.

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 11:05 AM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    That’s because exporting as print PDF converts RGB to CMYK, which Photoshop converts back to RGB. Make a custom export setting starting from print, but change compression and downsample options and make sure there is no colour conversion.

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 11:16 AM   in reply to Scott Falkner

    That’s because exporting as print PDF converts RGB to CMYK

     

    The PDF/X-4 preset would work because it doesn't allow color conversions.

     

    I don't see any problem cutting and pasting from ID. The ID objects come into Photoshop as Vector Smart Objects, and as long as the Photoshop destination color space and assignment matches the copied object, it pastes unchanged

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 11:30 AM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    The other was +1 off on all. Closer, but still doesn't make sense why it doesn't stay consistent.

     

    Also, when you check the ID and PS document assignments make sure you are assigning the same sRGB profile. sRGB is slightly different than sRGB EC61966-2.1 (RGB in the North American Web/internet preset)

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 1:39 PM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    @Rob, Color profiles synced up through Bridge. Both RGB set to sRGB EC61966-2.1.

    Bridge Snycing doesn't sync document profiles, just the current application Working Spaces. So, if you made an ID document last week with North American Web it will have the sRGB EC61966-2.1 profile assigned. If you then Sync to a color setting with sRGB today, the doc you made last week doesn't change to sRGB—it will still be sRGB EC61966-2.1.

     

    You have to use Edit>Assign Profiles... to be assured of a match, not Bridge

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 3:24 PM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    So, here I Sync to North American Web in Bridge, which Syncs the CS applications not individual documents:

     

    Screen shot 2012-08-27 at 5.55.43 PM.png

     

     

    And that updates my ID Color Settings:

     

     

    Screen shot 2012-08-27 at 5.56.24 PM.png

     

     

    But not an existing document. If I check the assigned profile of a document created with the North American Prepress preset, the RGB  profile is AdobeRGB not the  sRGB EC61966-2.1 Working Space.

     

    It's the assigned profile that's used when you cut the object, not the Working Space. If I cut the green square and paste it into an sRGB PS document it will change even though my apps are sync'd:

     

    Screen shot 2012-08-27 at 5.56.10 PM.png

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 6:35 PM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    Thanks Rob, very familiar with the color settings,

    I checked a number of RGB colors in both CS6 and CS3 and can't replicate your problem.

     

    Whether you're Color Settings are Sync'd or not has no effect on document colors matching (unless the documents have no profiles assigned) that's why I brought up checking document assignments.

     

    Can you give an example of an RGB mix that's not working for you?

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 5:48 AM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    I did just notice in your Color Settings for RGB that Convert to Working Space is chosen and Preserve Numbers is on for CMYK. I know my settings are both set to Preserve. Do you think this could be the reason?

     

    You're showing the wrong dialog. You have to check Edit>Assign Profiles... in both apps (Syncing via Bridge won't change these settings).

     

    In ID:

     

    Screen shot 2012-08-28 at 7.33.06 AM.png

     

    In PS:

     

    Screen shot 2012-08-28 at 7.33.42 AM.png

     

     

    It may be that your existing assignments match, but they are not set in Color Settings.

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 6:23 AM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    I did just notice in your Color Settings for RGB that Convert to Working Space is chosen.

     

    Setting the RGB policy to Convert and checking Ask When Opening would allow you to force a profile reassignment when you open an existing document with a conflicting profile. It would also change the document RGB numbers if that matters.

     
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    Nov 3, 2012 1:14 PM   in reply to Scott Falkner

    Hello Scott,

     

    I saw your post showing a page with two columns and a table in the middle of the page that spanned both columns.  How did you do that?  I am quite new to Adobe Indesign, it would be of great help if you provided me with the details. 

     

    Thank you,

     

    Bill

     
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    Nov 3, 2012 2:45 PM   in reply to william27405@me.com

    I don’t know to what post you are referring. I probably out the table in a separate text frame and used the Wrap panel to get the text in the two columns to wrap around the table.

     
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    Nov 3, 2012 4:51 PM   in reply to Artdirectorringo

    Try the following: Export your graphics in EPS format from InDesign, then open the EPS file in Illustrator. After selecting your graphics in Illustrator choose rasterize from object menu. Then copy and select paste as pixels when you paste in Photoshop.

     
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