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Adobe site - illegible text

Aug 24, 2012 8:53 AM

The Adobe site uses a fixed font size on many, if not most pages.This is almost illegible on high resolution monitors and, as it is fixed, zooming the page enlarges everything you don't need to enlarge and keeps the body copy the same illegible size.

 

Using a 27" Apple monitor, the copy shows up on screen at a miniscule 6.75 pt. I have to use a hardware zoom to read the blinkin' content.

 

How is this a good thing? Can't figure out why they dropped the relational font size tag.

 

By the way, I couldn't find any website feedback link. I hope an Adobe rep is following this forum.

 

Thanks,

 

-TY

 
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  • Currently Being Moderated
    Aug 24, 2012 7:37 PM   in reply to customizer2

    I know what a relational database is, but can you explain the relational font?  I have never heard of such a thing.

     
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    Aug 25, 2012 5:56 AM   in reply to Pat Willener

    I think we're talking about relative font sizing (as opposed to absolute font sizing).

     

    Ems and % (and even smaller or larger) vs points and pixels.

     

    Having said that, most of the pages at www.adobe.com use % for font sizing as far as I can see.

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 25, 2012 2:55 PM   in reply to customizer2

    It's clear not everyone understands you, customizer2.

     

    I'm not personally having trouble reading any of Adobe's fonts, and what's there seems to be the size it is on purpose.  I'm not seeing any problems with browser zoom either, though I normally run at 100%.

     

    Perhaps a screen grab showing what you're seeing would be helpful.  Here's what I see:

     

    IE10AdobePage.jpg

     

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 26, 2012 8:32 AM   in reply to Noel Carboni

    Noel,

     

    While the initial (un-zoomed) font IS small on my laptop via browser, I am copasetic with the browser's zoom function, though there are some "warts," that come along with that. I have decided to live with it, though I still grumble in the appropriate thread, in case the Forum Design Team is reading, or even cares.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 7:17 AM   in reply to customizer2

    customizer 2 wrote:

     

    …Nope. The upload wont work - JPEG, GIF, whatever…

     

    Are you using the little camera icon in the Reply Editor of web interface of the forum?

     

    Adobe_forums_cameraicon.jpg

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 7:23 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill Hunt wrote:

     

    Noel,

     

    …I am copasetic with the…

    Is that the British spelling of copacetic?   Honest question, not a criticism.  I've seen you spell it like that before.

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 9:02 AM   in reply to customizer2

    What platform/browser are you using in the Forums?

     

    Bill Hunt, is this the same issue you reported recently?

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 11:02 AM   in reply to station_two

    That was what Spellcheck changed it to. I had always spelled the word, just as you typed, but assumed that I had always been wrong? Teach me to trust Spellcheck...

     

    Thanks for that correction,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Aug 27, 2012 11:04 AM   in reply to adobe-admin

    John C.,

     

    No, I have not had any issues with adding an image, via the little "camera" icon. That still works for me.

     

    My issue was when adding a link to a word, or phrase, which worked fine until fairly recently, and now seems broken. Looking about, I think that it is a Javascript issue on my end, but have not found the "fix" yet.

     

    The camera still attaches the images correctly:

    Adobe_Forum_Image.jpg

     

    Hunt

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 27, 2012 11:11 AM   in reply to customizer2

    customizer2 wrote:

     


    When you use the keyboard to zoom, it enlarges all of the images, but the font size remains fixed, which defeats the reason for zooming. The only way to read the text is to use hardware zoom, which zooms the entire image on screen and moves a big chunk of the web page right off the screen.

     

    I can reproduce this behavior right on Adobe's main page, but only with Safari.  Personally I think it's more a bug with Safari than Adobe's web design.  As far as I know, browser zoom is not supposed to be dependent on web page content.

     

    Perhaps you might want to consider using a better browser (e.g. Firefox) until Apple fixes the problem.

     

    Here are multiple browser zoom levels, selected by keyboard Control + key combinations, showing how it works in a browser that's working properly.

     

    Adobe100.png

     

    Adobe110.png

     

    Adobe120.png

     

    Adobe130.png

     

    Adobe140.png

     

    -Noel

     
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  • Noel Carboni
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    Aug 27, 2012 2:28 PM   in reply to customizer2

    customizer2 wrote:

     

    I didn't change browsers. Adobe changed the site.

     

    As a web designer I'd certainly test all changes with all browsers at multiple zoom levels and avoid doing things that break the appearance of the site across popular browsers, but unless somehow Adobe is actively overriding the browser zoom (e.g., with a script) this really seems like it has to be more of a browser bug that Adobe somehow uncovered - I really don't know of any way with HTML that you're supposed to be able to override the browser zoom level.

     

    I tried the site on an iPhone to see how the zoom would fare there, but they redirect to a set of mobile device-specific pages.

     

    -Noel

     
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