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PHOTOSHOP 7 and RAW

Aug 27, 2012 12:35 PM

Hello, i am editing in photshop 7 but when i download my images from my camera when i shoot in RAW and can not edit the images in photoshop 7 why?? I would like to download and edit in RAW not have to convert back to jpeg once on my computer. Does thsi happen to anyone else or ami missing something?

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1. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 12:48 PM in reply to katalily_10

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Photoshop 7 had a optional camera raw plugin that cost extra, but that wouldn't open any newer camera raw files or dng files.
If you want to stick with photoshop 7, you would need to use the camera raw utility that the camera maker provides or an aftermarket one.
Or consider photoshop elements 10 for your raw conversions or purchase photoshop cs6 or lightroom 4.

If you convert the files you probably want to use the tif format instead of jpeg.

What camera do you have?

Just to be clear your talking about photoshop 7 and not photoshop elements 7?

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2. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 12:55 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Hi sorry yes i am using photshop elemnts 7, and i cant edit my RAW files, what should i do?

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3. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 12:59 PM in reply to katalily_10

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What camera do you have?

Photoshop elements 7 has a camera raw plugin that may need to be updated to support the camera or you might need to use the 7.1 dng converter.

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4. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 1:00 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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If i purchase photoshop elements 10 will my actions trasnsfer over to the 10 version or how would i do that? I enjoy elements, is there quite a difference between elements and photoshop? Does Version 10 has a RAW plug in that comes with the version, and is it easy to set up or is this already something set up? Whats the difference between a tif. file and a jpeg.? Sorry for all the questions i just want to learn more.

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5. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 1:02 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Ok thank you very much, how would i find the 7.1 dng converter to use RAW images when editing?

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6. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 1:05 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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The camera im using is a 5D MARK 11

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7. Bill Hunt,

Aug 27, 2012 1:06 PM in reply to katalily_10

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The differences between PS and PSElements is not THAT big, but there are many operations in PSE, that are automated, or semi-automated, where in PS, one would do those by hand, but with much more control.

The biggest things missing completely from PSE are:

CMYK support (only needed if doing work for commercial printing in CMYK inks)
No capability to create Layer Sets (often used in DVD/BD Menus), though it can edit them
Some of the Adjustment Layer functions

As you have Photoshop Elements, and also a question on PSE Actions, I will move this thread to the Photoshop Elements Forum, where you can get quick answers on the PSE Actions.

Good luck,

Hunt

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8. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 2:01 PM in reply to katalily_10

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If you update pse 7 to the 5.6 camera raw plugin then you should be able to open your camera raw files:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4626

If you wanted to get a newer version of elements, i'd probably wait for pse 11, which is due out within the next couple months
and you'd have to manually transfer your and actions (install) into the newer version of photoshop elements.

If your happy with photoshop elements 7, there is really no reason to get a newer version.

Jpegs use lossely compression which might result in loss of some data, where as tif won't have any data loss, but the file sizes are bigger.
In other words jpegs are good for posting images on the web/email and tifs and psds are good for saving a file that you may want to edit later.

corrected the link for the 5.6 camera raw plugin

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9. 99jon,

Aug 27, 2012 1:31 PM in reply to katalily_10

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There is no need to update PSE7

If you shoot raw simply download and install the free Adobe DNG converter to convert your raw files to the Adobe Raw format and the files will open in all versions of PSE (keep your original raw’s as backups and for use in your camear manufacturwrs software)

Windows download click here DNG Converter 7.1

Mac download click here DNG Converter 7.1

You can convert a whole folder of raw images in one click. See this quick video tutorial:

You Tube click here for DNG Converter tutorial

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10. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 1:31 PM in reply to Bill Hunt

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Bill,

Thanks for moving the post to the right forum.

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11. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 2:05 PM in reply to 99jon

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So now that i have the DNG converter , thank you, are my files still in RAW format or what am i editing with now?

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12. 99jon,

Aug 27, 2012 2:08 PM in reply to katalily_10

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Yes

DNG is the universal raw format.

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13. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 2:11 PM in reply to katalily_10

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If you update pse 7 to the camera raw 5.6 plugin, then you don't need the dng converter.
You camera raw files would open directly into photoshop elements 7 without the need for any conversions.

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14. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 2:12 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Thank you, however, what should happen once i use the update 5.6 plugin, cause i tried to update that first and it didnt work,i don't think, so than i downloaded the DNG converter.

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15. 99jon,

Aug 27, 2012 2:16 PM in reply to katalily_10

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Photoshop 7 is not PSE7

Conversion to DNG is backward compatible.

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16. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 2:20 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Thanks i will try it out!

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17. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 2:21 PM in reply to 99jon

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Hi, im not to sure what you mean by the conversion being backwards compatible?

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18. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 2:23 PM in reply to katalily_10

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Did you install the 5.6 raw plugin and the profiles?

What happened when you tried to open one of your camera raw files?

If the plugin and profiles are installed correctly, your 5D MARK 11 files
should open directly into to photoshop elements 7 using File>Open in the photoshop elements 7 editor.

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19. 99jon,

Aug 27, 2012 2:23 PM in reply to katalily_10

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If you convert to DNG your files will open in all versions of PSE.

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20. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 2:27 PM in reply to katalily_10

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Here are the directions for installing the 5.6 camera raw plugin:

http://www.adobe.com/special/photoshop/camera_raw/Camera_Raw_5.6_ReadM e.pdf

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21. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 2:31 PM in reply to 99jon

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I don't think katalily_10 needs the dng converter for photoshop elements 7, since the camera raw 5.6 plugin should work.

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22. 99jon,

Aug 27, 2012 2:33 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Maybe Kelly. But DNG is always a preferable workflow when using Adobe software. In fact there is no advantage to retaining proprietary formats unless usin the camera manufacturers software.

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23. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 2:35 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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So i tried to adit photos in RAW off my camera and it says its the wrong type of file so it wont open it...

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24. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 2:53 PM in reply to katalily_10

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You followed the install instructions in the pdf i linked to in post #20?

If in the photoshop elements editor you go to Help>About Plug-In>Camera Raw, what version does it say?

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25. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 2:56 PM in reply to katalily_10

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What version of windows?

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26. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 2:57 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Yes i did follow the instructions, thank you, but some how it's not cooperating with me, i still can not edit in RAW, my version says it's 4.5.0.175

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27. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 3:02 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Windows Vista

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28. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 3:31 PM in reply to katalily_10

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Okay so you copied the camera plugin or moved the new camera 5.6 plugin to this folder and replaced the old one:
(if i remember right there is also a folder in the download marked 64 bit, you don't want that plugin, but the one outside that folder next to the profile installer)

C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 7.0\Plug-Ins\File Formats

If your vista system is not a 64 bit system, then the path would be
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Photoshop Elements 7.0\Plug-Ins\File Formats

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29. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 3:57 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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Ok so i did that and the only thing that is different is that my file does not look like that and my file does not have the .8bi on the end its only CameraRaw....? But thank yoiu so much for teh help.

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30. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 3:59 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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If i scroll over it is an .8bi file just its not attached like yours...

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31. katalily_10,

Aug 27, 2012 4:04 PM in reply to R_Kelly

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OMG its worked, i had to copy the Camera properties file there as well as the Camera raw file, through your instructions on post #28.. Thank you so much sorry for the confussion!!

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32. R_Kelly,

Aug 27, 2012 5:39 PM in reply to katalily_10

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You might have your folder views set up different.

Anyway glad you got it to work.

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