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I have a problem with DV output quality in Premiere CS6 6.0.1.
Nonrendered and rendered video looks the same on external monitor - blurish.
- Mercury Software only
- DV PAL sequence
- DV AVI video + Premiere title
There is also bigger delay than with CS5.5 with outputing through firewire. It takes about a second to update image on external monitor after clicking on different part of the timeline.
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Just to add some more info:
- Windows 7 x64 SP1 + all updates
- GTX 460 1GB with 301.42 drivers
- Sony HVR M15E recorder
- Tried with or without Mercury HW
- Tried with regular and legacy firewire drivers
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OMG Export to Tape also does not work.
Machine is recording but timeline is not playing.
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Any answer on catastrophic DV support in CS6?
I'm forced to go back to old and great CS 5.5 if there is no any solution or patch planned for this.
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>solution or patch planned
You need to tell the Adobe engineers https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
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Told them and I'm going back to 5.5.
CS3 - nice
CS4 - slow
CS5 - great
CS6 - nice ideas, bad implementation (unfinished work?)
CS7 (or maybe CS 6.5) may probably come as what CS6 needed to be
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There is more...
You have nice graohic card and you are able to use hardware accelerated playback.
Timeline is playing fine, without any rendering required.
You now want to export this to tape, but... it first renders yellow areas.
Why this?
As I said previously it will not export to tape anyway. Machine goes recording but timeline is not playing.
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Hi AC,
Make sure that you've selected and setup the Adobe DV playback preference under Edit > Preferences > Playback. This should help resolve the export to tape problem. Make sure to report back if it doesn't.
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Hi Mitch,
Playback settings are in default state, I've only enabled "Adobe DV":
I've tried changing these options but always the same results: machine is recording but CTI stays at the beggining of the timeline.
There is no option to choose External Device for Export as we had it in previous versions. Is this OK?
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Correct. There is no external device option as in previous versions. This is now handled as part of the transmit feature and is selected in the playback prefs. If you are using a combination DV/HDV device, make sure to go into the device's menu settings and select DV as the VCR mode. If the device is set to Auto or HDV, it won't properly detect the incoming signal. Once you tell it what to expect, it should work correctly. Make sure you've setup the DV Device Control options for your device (also under preferences). With the device connected and powered on, the device control options should show the device status as "online". Now choose File > Export > Tape and you should be good to go.
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I've set it to DV, and device is properly recognized by the software (status: online).
I can capture, output is working, and machine starts recording when exporting to tape, but timeline stays at zero.
I'll post later some pictures and videos of what happens when switching between the sequences or program/source monitors. Signal is lost for a second and there is a delay while updating picture on external monitor (while moving CTI).
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Any idea on why with CPU rendering DV output looks the same either if rendered or not (blurish)?
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Short video clip where you can see what happens when switching between the sequences:
Same happens when switching between the sequence and the source monitor.
I've also taken some pictures to show output quality differences between GPU and CPU rendering but unfortunately they are hard to notice on the images... SW is blurred, HW sharper.
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That looks logical, since hardware MPE always uses maximum quality and software MPE does not by default.
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Hi AC, from your screenshot you've selected Adobe DV as one of your Video Devices for transmit, but have you also selected it as your Audio Device? This is similar to the "External Device Audio" setting for DV playback in previous versions.
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Hi Harm,
Sure, but the problem is unchanged output quality after rendering in SW mode.
Add clip, add title > red line, blurred image on the external monitor
Hit Enter to render > green line, but no any changes in output, stays blurred
Hi Zac,
I've switched from Desktop to DV Audio too and I have no problems with A/V sync.
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Hi AC,
Great, so during Export to Tape, the CTI is moving now right?
If you want to turn on the setting Harm suggests for comparable settings in Software mode, go to Sequence > Sequence Settings, and under Video Previews, choose Maximum Render Quality. Then try recomparing.
Zac
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No matter what I try... it renders audio, then rewinds the tape to defined timecode, then goes recording, but timeline sleeps. I only haven't tried to export with Assemble deactivated. I'll do it tomorrow and let you know what happens.
I don't need maximum render quality. My problem is not difference between HW and SW Mercury but rendered quality in SW mode, which is completely the same as nonrendered.
CS5.5 is great in all of this on the same hardware, with the same settings.
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Export to Tape works when "Assemble at timecode" is deactivated.
However when I enable this option timeline won't play while machine starts recording.
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Admiral Cook,
I agree with your finding. PP6.01 doesn't roll the timeline when "Assemble at timecode" is checked.
My VTR's will go into REC mode but no data is coming into the machine via firewire("No input" error message on SONY DSR-1500A), Premiere timeline does not play as VTR is recording.
Unchecking the Assemble edit option, deck records, timeline plays, data is output via firewire.
I have the same results on SONY DSR-1500A, DSR-45 and DSR-11 tape machines.
Using the same hardware and PP project file/settings works under PP5.5.
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Thanks AC and Paul@NYN, we've opened up bug #3286805 and our QE will do some further investigation. We appreciate you providing your deck model info.
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Zac,
Glad to hear QE is going to be looking into this. I had to go back to 5.5 for output today. Lucky for me they were easy timelines to recreate.
There's some details I didn't include in my bug report, can you see that QE gets the following additional info(or is there a way to append to an existing bug report?).
- Once the "Assemble at timecode" option is attempted and fails, any subsequent record attempts fail as well. Until I toggle off/on the Adobe DV Video Device in the Preferences/Playback dialog.
- This bug issue occurs whether MPE is in Hardware or Software mode( I'm using a Quadro 4000).
- From this User's point of view it seems that, in Assemble mode, the application is not properly "seeing" a record acknowledgement from the deck, it's just sitting there waiting to roll the queued timeline.
Thanks.
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Thanks for the updates.
Btw I'm using Sony HVR M15E.
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I actually missed quoted one of my VTR models, the DSR-11 is actually a HVR-M15U(I tell PP it's a DSR-11 in the device config.). FWIW, at least we are seeing the issue in both PAL & NTSC worlds.
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Thanks for the update again.
Same model, different TV standard.