Recently upgraded from CS3 to CS6, and having some real buggy issues.
First and foremost, when I try to align objects, weird stuff happens. For instance, with several objects selected (with or without a key object selected), I can align all the objects to middle (horizontally), but when I try to align them vertically (to each other, not the artboard), they get distributed to weird places instead (and not evenly spaced, either). Yes, the proper "Align to" option is selected, and "snap to pixel grid" is turned off. This is ridiculous. I'm spending a ton of time effing around with alignment issues instead of actually getting things done.
Working with symbols is infuriating... I have a few custom symbol libraries that I use pretty regularly. In CS3, I would drag a symbol onto the artboard. I would then "Break link to symbol" so I could adjust color, etc. Doing this, the object would still be grouped in the same way it was designed and even retained the sub-groupings. Now, when I break the link it completely ungroups everything. Also, it puts all these symbols into some weird sub-layer that acts like it's not part of the actual layer I'm working with (can't send to back/bring to front/bring forward/send backward etc.), but I can still move other objects to in front of it or behind it. The only solution I've found is to copy the elements, delete them, and then paste them back into the same effing layer. What. The. Hell.
Sure hope this makes sense to someone else...
1.) Here are some examples. Shown at the left is the 3 elements I'm trying to align vertically and horizontally. Example 1 shows what happens when I select the elements and click the "Horizontal Align Center" button (dashed outlines show initial position of stacked elements). Example 2 shows the same issue when using "Vertical Align Center".
2.) Group it to what? Itself? Grouping the symbol to anything (or itself) no longer gives you the option to unlink it (unless you isolate the group which defeats the purpose).The symbols themselves were created with groups (and sub-groups), and in CS3, those groupings were retained after unlinking the symbol. Your response doesn't actually make any sense.
Do you have an embedded image in your symbol with a mask? then it may be aliging to the bounds of the embedded image, rather than the mask.
Also turn off align to pixel grid in the flyout menu. Don't hink you have that on cause your document is CMYK, but that has been a wrench in the sytem since addition in CS5.
ci5ic1990 wrote:
2.) Group it to what? Itself? Grouping the symbol to anything (or itself) no longer gives you the option to unlink it (unless you isolate the group which defeats the purpose).The symbols themselves were created with groups (and sub-groups), and in CS3, those groupings were retained after unlinking the symbol. Your response doesn't actually make any sense.
Have you even tried?
Tried following your instructions to "group the symbol before unlinking"? Yes. I placed a symbol on the artboard and hit ctrl+g to group it. Then right-click and the option to "Break link to symbol" is no longer available... I can isolate the group and then break the link... This doesn't actually solve anything, it's no different than unlinking and then grouping the still-selected elements back together, which is something that didn't need to be done in previous versions of Illustrator. Besides, in some of my symbols I have fairly complex sub-groups so that once the link is broken I can adjust individual groups of elements as necessary (at least that's how it worked in CS3), but now, breaking the link completely explodes the symbol into it's component elements so I have to go back in and re-create all the subgroupings which is time consuming.
This also does not solve the sub-layer issues which I recorded below. There is no audio, but here is a description of what occurred.
1.) Several layered background elements on artboard (all on the same/current layer)
2.) Placed symbol from symbol library (again, on same/current layer as the other elements)
3.) Break link to symbol
4.) Group symbol back together
5.) Select all the elements and alt+drag/drop to create a duplicate.
You can see that the duplicate symbol is now BELOW the other duplicated items, and this is because the symbol is in a sub-layer which I tried to show in the layers pallette... So, now if I want to bring that symbol to the front again, I either have to copy it and paste it back into the same layer I'm already working in, or I have to find the damn thing in the layers pallette and drag it out of the sub-layer. Both of those options are a pain in the ***. Also, since the unlinked symbol is typically selected once I've unlinked it, anything else that I create ends up in that same sub-layer and results in the same problems.
Yes, I can use the symbol panel to unlink the object... I'm not really having trouble unlinking the symbol. I'm having trouble with it being exploded and losing all the sub groupings as well as being placed in a sub-layer that doesn't play well with all the other elements on the artboard.
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