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Can I copy a catalog format to the other files in the book?

Aug 29, 2012 8:00 AM

Hi everyone,

Yet another question from a newbie, FM 10 Windows 7.  I finally figured out how to filter the paragraph catalog so it opens with only the styles I want, in the order I want.  I was very pleased until I noticed that this catalog didn't carry over throughout the whole book.  I tried importing a format from another document, but it didn't succeed.  I thought the solution might be to change the format when there's nothing open, but then the catalog is blank.  If I open the book and select the title of the book, the menu changes.

Is there a way to change a default over the whole book instead of a in single document?

Thank you!

 
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    Aug 29, 2012 8:18 AM   in reply to sssuuusssaaannn

    sssuuusssaaannn wrote:

     

    Hi everyone,

    Yet another question from a newbie, FM 10 Windows 7.  I finally figured out how to filter the paragraph catalog so it opens with only the styles I want, in the order I want.  I was very pleased until I noticed that this catalog didn't carry over throughout the whole book.  I tried importing a format from another document, but it didn't succeed.  I thought the solution might be to change the format when there's nothing open, but then the catalog is blank.  If I open the book and select the title of the book, the menu changes.

    Is there a way to change a default over the whole book instead of a in single document?

    Thank you!

     

    What did you do? Select the book, File > Import > Formats, select the document to import from, check the Paragraph Formats box and click Import?

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 8:19 AM   in reply to sssuuusssaaannn

    Open the book AND the file containing the paragraph formats you want to copy into the book.

     

    Select ALL the files in the book (click the book file and type Ctrl+A).

     

    With the BOOK file selected, select File > Import > Formats. In the dialog box, select the file containing the paragraph formats from Import from Document, select Paragraph Formats and any other formats you want to import, and click Import. The paragraph formats stored in the open file are copied into the files selected in the book file. NOTE formats in the target file with the same name as those in the open file are replaced with the new formats; all other formats in the target file are retained - they are NOT deleted.

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 12:06 PM   in reply to sssuuusssaaannn

    Can you use the web interface to attach some screenshots of what you're doing?

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 12:12 PM   in reply to sssuuusssaaannn

    > I wanted to import the style of the paragraph catalog, ...

     

    Presuming that file tidy.fm has the PgfCat you like, and file messy.fm does not:

    1. Open both.
    2. In messy.fm:
      Format > Paragraph > Designer
      Commands: Delete Format ...
      [ Delete ] until all are gone.
    3. Ditto for Character Formats if desired
    4. Still in messy.fm:
      File > Import > Formats
      Source Document: [ tidy.fm ]
      [ Deselect All ]
      [*] Paragraph Formats
      [*] Character Formats
      [Import]

     

    You can delete Pgf & Chr fmts at any time. Text tagged with them just become overrides.

    Deleting Xref formats, Variables and Colors will pop dialogs for items tagged with them.

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 12:38 PM   in reply to sssuuusssaaannn

    You might want to look at the the inexpensive FrameMaker paragraph tools plug-in (and others) at: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html.

     

     

    HTH

     

     

    Regards,

     

     

    Peter

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    sssuuusssaaannn wrote:

     

    Hi everyone,

    Yet another question from a newbie, FM 10 Windows 7.  I finally figured out how to filter the paragraph catalog so it opens with only the styles I want, in the order I want.  I was very pleased until I noticed that this catalog didn't carry over throughout the whole book.  I tried importing a format from another document, but it didn't succeed.  I thought the solution might be to change the format when there's nothing open, but then the catalog is blank.  If I open the book and select the title of the book, the menu changes.

    Is there a way to change a default over the whole book instead of a in single document?

    Thank you!

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 1:23 PM   in reply to sssuuusssaaannn

    Use the camera icon when responding using the web interface of the forum - attachments to e-mails get stripped off

     
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    Aug 31, 2012 9:04 PM   in reply to sssuuusssaaannn

    You're welcome.

     

    You can try the plug-in for free and only pay the few dollars if it suits your work's needs.

     

    IMO it's short sighted to avoid a tool that can make your work more efficient, especially if its cost is trivial. A few years ago, someone on techwr-l.com pointed out that the familiar "Lorem Ipsem" placeholder text probably was written by ancient tech writers, known as scribes, in their day, because a loose translation of the pseudo-Latin contains the phrase "we like to beat ourselves with sticks."

     

    Paying a plug-in developer encourages more creative development of add-on product improvements. Positive user reviews and multiple user requests for the feature to be built into FM, can encourage Adobe to buy and incorporate the product's valuable features.

    sssuuusssaaannn wrote:

     

    Thanks.  You do have an idea of what I want, but I don't know whether the suggested plugin can put the remaining styles into he caalog in the order I want.  Besides, I don't like the idea of having to pay for something, no matter how inexpensive, that IMO should be in the program to begin with.  Thank you for replying though!

    HTH

     

    Regards,

     

     

    Peter

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