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1. Larry G. Schneider,

Aug 25, 2012 7:53 PM in reply to LRB_07

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You wouldn't be in outline mode? Try Cmd(Ctrl)-Y to toggle.

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2. LRB_07,

Aug 25, 2012 9:10 PM in reply to Larry G. Schneider

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Thanks for the suggestion. I wish it was that simple, but no, I'm not in outline mode.

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3. Jacob Bugge,

Aug 26, 2012 3:02 AM in reply to LRB_07

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Lucinda,

If you look at the Window>Transparency palette/panel, is Opacity set to 100%? From the description, it could be 0%.

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4. LRB_07,

Aug 26, 2012 1:02 PM in reply to Jacob Bugge

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Thanks Jacob, but my transparency is set at 100% and nothing has changed. I'm completely stumped.

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5. [scott w],

Aug 26, 2012 1:24 PM in reply to LRB_07

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Are you first selecting objects? It's possible to alter what the color and swatch panel show and the artwork won't change unless you first select something, then change color.

Another option is to look at the Appearance Panel. It's possible fills/strokes you are setting are covered by a higher level fill/stroke.

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6. Jacob Bugge,

Aug 26, 2012 2:25 PM in reply to LRB_07

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Lucinda,

What Scott says also applies to the Transparency opacity setting: the setting shown corresponds to the latest object selected.

I made the suggestion, possibly sillily, without mentioning that you should select the object(s) first.

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7. LRB_07,

Aug 26, 2012 9:37 PM in reply to [scott w]

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Hi Scott and Jacob,

Yes, I am selecting objects. That has not changed since Illustrator 8. And yes, I also selected objects when checking Transparency opacity. At least I do know that much, guys.

I was not familiar with the Appearance panel, but in checking it at your suggestion all seems to be well.

Thanks for the tips, but this is still such a mystery. I have people waiting on me and I can't seem to fix this glitch - which is probably simple if I knew all the ins and outs of cs6.

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8. CarlosCanto,

Aug 26, 2012 9:45 PM in reply to LRB_07

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can you post a screen shot showing something selected, the appearance panel and the layers panel?

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9. LRB_07,

Aug 26, 2012 11:01 PM in reply to CarlosCanto

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Sure.

This one shows both panels open, and one selected object.

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10. Wade_Zimmerman,

Aug 26, 2012 11:03 PM in reply to LRB_07

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Guys I think I know what's wrong, the person who made the vector trace made it a live paint group.

Lucinda can pick swatches till the end of time and nothing will happen.

Lucinda go to the Tool Panel if you click and hold he mouse down on theshape builder tool you get the Live Paint Bucket tool, selc your art and hover the Live Paint Bucket over the selected art do you see red outlines?

if so that means it is a Live paint group and you use the bucket to fill the art not a selection tool.

Read about live paint groups if you do not like that approach you can select the art go to Object>Live Paint Group>Release and then you should be able to work as you are expecting to work.

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11. LRB_07,

Aug 27, 2012 11:06 AM in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

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That was a good guess, Wade, but when I tried it I got this message

"The selection contains objects that cannot be converted. Live Paint groups can only contain paths and compound paths. Clipping paths are not allowed.

For more information on how to convert text, images, and other types of artwork into a form allowed inside Live Paint groups please see Help."

Maybe this itself is going to be a clue to the problem perhaps? I'm not up to speed on clipping paths, or any of these special commands yet. Hopefully one of you experts will solve the mystery.

I do appreciate all the responses. Sorry to throw such a curve at you. It's probably a simple matter, once we track it down.

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12. emil emil,

Aug 27, 2012 11:55 AM in reply to LRB_07

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LRB_07 wrote:

... Clipping paths are not allowed....

You should have made the sceenshot with the selected layer fully expanded to show its contents. The message says that you may have a clipping mask. Which could be verified if your layer was expanded.

However if you have a clipping mask you should be able to change the color of the clipped object, which would be the black lines, unless the clipped object is locked and you selected the clipping mask with the white arrow holding Alt. Another way to check if it is a clipping mask, Select all and go to Object > Clipping Mask > Release and see if that changes anything.

Another simple case possible is if you have a locked white path on top and another with the same shape under it that you are selecting and can't see its color. To check this go to Object > Unlock All. Again, expanded layer panel, shows locked objects too.

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13. Wade_Zimmerman,

Aug 27, 2012 8:22 PM in reply to emil emil

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I gopt it now fter looking at your screen shot again.

If that shape is prt of a compund path then it is a whole and it will not actually look filled until you release the compound path.

The problem probabal arose when the user who did the trace use the feture to ignore white in this case it had to make a compound that like in a letter B or P or O.

Release he compound pths and then fill the shapes.

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14. LRB_07,

Aug 27, 2012 8:43 PM in reply to emil emil

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Maybe this will help. I selected one of the objects and pulled the menu down to reveal what choices come up. As you can see, compound path is not available, as well as the unlock all feature. Hmmmmm. But you will notice that I've expanded the layer menu.

Any other ideas?

I'm a teacher and have to report to work in the morning (first day back for the new school year). I'll come back and check in the morning and again late afternoon to see if anyone else has an idea of what's happening.

Thank you all again!

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15. emil emil,

Aug 27, 2012 11:07 PM in reply to LRB_07

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Well, you expanded the layer but you are showing only little from its content and the selected path is not in view. The selected paths will be indicated in the Layers panel by the little blue square at the very right. You could have either scrolled down the Layer panel to show the selected path or/and enlarged the Layers panel vertically since you your screen shot shows you have plenty of space for that. Also, your Object menu shows that the Clipping Mask is available so, there is a clipping mask in the selection. Try to follow my previous instructions and see what happens.

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16. CarlosCanto,

Aug 27, 2012 11:21 PM in reply to LRB_07

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next question would be, can you share the file? it'll be easier to get help with the file on hand.

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17. emil emil,

Aug 27, 2012 11:53 PM in reply to CarlosCanto

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Yes, sharing the file or a part of it that can show the problem, will most likely result in a instant diagnose

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18. LRB_07,

Aug 29, 2012 8:01 PM in reply to emil emil

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I have been maxed out getting ready for school, folks. Sorry for the delay. I will gradly share my file and think it's a great idea. How do I go about doing that? I've been looking around and can't find an obvious way to do it.

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19. Wade_Zimmerman,

Aug 29, 2012 9:09 PM in reply to LRB_07

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you can use the you send it free service and post the link here. www.yousendit.com You send the file to yourself to get the link.

or you can send me a private message with your e-mail and I will contact you and then you can return my message with the file and I will post it on my server.

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20. CarlosCanto,

Aug 29, 2012 9:10 PM in reply to LRB_07

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upload it to your favorite file sharing site (ie google docs), then post the link here

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21. Wade_Zimmerman,

Aug 29, 2012 9:19 PM in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

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Also select ll of the art and then ungroup until it is fuly ungroupd and then release the compund path while the whole object is selected not just one path.

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22. LRB_07,

Aug 29, 2012 9:49 PM in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

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You guys are all so helpful and patient with me. I can't thank you enough! I set up a You Send It account, and here is the file:

https://www.yousendit.com/download/TEhVK3BOR0ZvQnM4RmNUQw

If you are able to help me solve the issue, please provide step by step instructions on how to fix the file so I can learn from all of this.

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23. Saurabh Manocha,

Aug 30, 2012 12:53 AM in reply to LRB_07

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Hi Lucinda,

Thanks for sharing the file.

The paths which you are trying the color are actually Guides. Inorder to color these guides you need to release the guides which will convert them into paths.

In order to do this,

1. Select all the guides or simply press CTRL+A.

2. Select View > Guides > Release Guides (or simply press Alt+ Ctrl + 5 )

Now you would be able to color these paths.

Regards

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24. Goapher,

Aug 30, 2012 12:54 AM in reply to LRB_07

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The paths are all guides. Release them and are you are good. Select the paths, and use the menu under View -> Guides -> Release Guides, or the shortcut Opt+Cmd+5.

HTH.

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25. Wade_Zimmerman,

Aug 30, 2012 5:38 AM in reply to Goapher

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Sure enough all guides the onl paths where the filled rectangles with your colors. Everything else was guides.

We shouod have spotted that from the color of the guides in the screenshot.

here it is when the guides are released.

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26. Wade_Zimmerman,

Aug 30, 2012 6:01 AM in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

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Te reason you stil see them as guides is that I have the locked layer, also guides, visible.

You will still have some problems to over come like the negative shape and exterior shape of the overall group of paths will have to be joined as closed paths then makde into a compound path so it can be filled with black. A little tedious but it can me done.

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27. LRB_07,

Aug 30, 2012 7:10 AM in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

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Yay!! I now have complete control of my artwork! Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. I am going to take some training to update my skills, but in the meantime you helped me pull together a piece that is needed for a local non-profit group.

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