After a long hiatus from graphics, I'm suddenly back in Illustrator and -- boy -- have there been a lot of changes since I was using Illustrator 8! Right now I'm trying to get a vector image to behave, but I'm running into challenges right and left.
First, let me explain. I had another designer scan one of my drawings and convert it to a vector. He gave me the file, which he saved in .ai format, and I am using cs6. This is a fairly complicated design of a grape vine, so there are compound paths throughout. I have ungrouped so that I can select shapes within the shapes, etc. and my goal is to colorize the image with three PMS spot colors. I used to do this very easily in the past.
The biggest issue I am having now is that even though it appears that I've filled shapes with color from my swatches, the color is not showing up at all in the image. When I click on the shapes, I see my colors appear in the stroke and fill boxes of the toolbar, but the image itself remains white.
Can anyone help me figure out what is going on? Once I do that, I would like to be able to save my image as an .eps and have a transparent background. I can save that challenge for later though. First things first.
Thanks so much -
Are you first selecting objects? It's possible to alter what the color and swatch panel show and the artwork won't change unless you first select something, then change color.
Another option is to look at the Appearance Panel. It's possible fills/strokes you are setting are covered by a higher level fill/stroke.
What Scott says also applies to the Transparency opacity setting: the setting shown corresponds to the latest object selected.
I made the suggestion, possibly sillily, without mentioning that you should select the object(s) first.
Hi Scott and Jacob,
Yes, I am selecting objects. That has not changed since Illustrator 8. And yes, I also selected objects when checking Transparency opacity. At least I do know that much, guys.
I was not familiar with the Appearance panel, but in checking it at your suggestion all seems to be well.
Thanks for the tips, but this is still such a mystery. I have people waiting on me and I can't seem to fix this glitch - which is probably simple if I knew all the ins and outs of cs6.
Guys I think I know what's wrong, the person who made the vector trace made it a live paint group.
Lucinda can pick swatches till the end of time and nothing will happen.
Lucinda go to the Tool Panel if you click and hold he mouse down on theshape builder tool you get the Live Paint Bucket tool, selc your art and hover the Live Paint Bucket over the selected art do you see red outlines?
if so that means it is a Live paint group and you use the bucket to fill the art not a selection tool.
Read about live paint groups if you do not like that approach you can select the art go to Object>Live Paint Group>Release and then you should be able to work as you are expecting to work.
That was a good guess, Wade, but when I tried it I got this message
"The selection contains objects that cannot be converted. Live Paint groups can only contain paths and compound paths. Clipping paths are not allowed.
For more information on how to convert text, images, and other types of artwork into a form allowed inside Live Paint groups please see Help."
Maybe this itself is going to be a clue to the problem perhaps? I'm not up to speed on clipping paths, or any of these special commands yet. Hopefully one of you experts will solve the mystery.
I do appreciate all the responses. Sorry to throw such a curve at you. It's probably a simple matter, once we track it down.
... Clipping paths are not allowed....
You should have made the sceenshot with the selected layer fully expanded to show its contents. The message says that you may have a clipping mask. Which could be verified if your layer was expanded.
However if you have a clipping mask you should be able to change the color of the clipped object, which would be the black lines, unless the clipped object is locked and you selected the clipping mask with the white arrow holding Alt. Another way to check if it is a clipping mask, Select all and go to Object > Clipping Mask > Release and see if that changes anything.
Another simple case possible is if you have a locked white path on top and another with the same shape under it that you are selecting and can't see its color. To check this go to Object > Unlock All. Again, expanded layer panel, shows locked objects too.
I gopt it now fter looking at your screen shot again.
If that shape is prt of a compund path then it is a whole and it will not actually look filled until you release the compound path.
The problem probabal arose when the user who did the trace use the feture to ignore white in this case it had to make a compound that like in a letter B or P or O.
Release he compound pths and then fill the shapes.
Maybe this will help. I selected one of the objects and pulled the menu down to reveal what choices come up. As you can see, compound path is not available, as well as the unlock all feature. Hmmmmm. But you will notice that I've expanded the layer menu.
Any other ideas?
I'm a teacher and have to report to work in the morning (first day back for the new school year). I'll come back and check in the morning and again late afternoon to see if anyone else has an idea of what's happening.
Thank you all again!
Well, you expanded the layer but you are showing only little from its content and the selected path is not in view. The selected paths will be indicated in the Layers panel by the little blue square at the very right. You could have either scrolled down the Layer panel to show the selected path or/and enlarged the Layers panel vertically since you your screen shot shows you have plenty of space for that. Also, your Object menu shows that the Clipping Mask is available so, there is a clipping mask in the selection. Try to follow my previous instructions and see what happens.
I have been maxed out getting ready for school, folks. Sorry for the delay. I will gradly share my file and think it's a great idea. How do I go about doing that? I've been looking around and can't find an obvious way to do it.
you can use the you send it free service and post the link here. www.yousendit.com You send the file to yourself to get the link.
or you can send me a private message with your e-mail and I will contact you and then you can return my message with the file and I will post it on my server.
You guys are all so helpful and patient with me. I can't thank you enough! I set up a You Send It account, and here is the file:
If you are able to help me solve the issue, please provide step by step instructions on how to fix the file so I can learn from all of this.
Thanks for sharing the file.
The paths which you are trying the color are actually Guides. Inorder to color these guides you need to release the guides which will convert them into paths.
In order to do this,
1. Select all the guides or simply press CTRL+A.
2. Select View > Guides > Release Guides (or simply press Alt+ Ctrl + 5 )
Now you would be able to color these paths.
Te reason you stil see them as guides is that I have the locked layer, also guides, visible.
You will still have some problems to over come like the negative shape and exterior shape of the overall group of paths will have to be joined as closed paths then makde into a compound path so it can be filled with black. A little tedious but it can me done.
Yay!! I now have complete control of my artwork! Thank you all from the bottom of my heart. I am going to take some training to update my skills, but in the meantime you helped me pull together a piece that is needed for a local non-profit group.
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