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How to change sequence settings

Aug 18, 2011 11:21 AM

Is it possible to change a sequences settings once you've set up the sequence?

 

In Sequence Settings everything is grayed out so I can't change it.

 
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    Aug 18, 2011 11:25 AM   in reply to RFendelman

    In that case, no.

     

    But you can create a new one with the desired settings and Copy/Paste clips into it.

     
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    Aug 18, 2011 12:15 PM   in reply to RFendelman

    Here is one way to be sure your sequence is right so you don't have to make changes

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/872666?tstart=0

     
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    Aug 18, 2011 12:57 PM   in reply to RFendelman

    Just out of curiosity, if the footage does not look right, what would be the purpose of changing the Sequences' settings?

     

    Thanks,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Aug 18, 2011 1:13 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt
    Just out of curiosity, if the footage does not look right, what would be the purpose of changing the Sequences' settings?

    If, for instance, you created a DV seq and put HD material in it - FC would resize the material to DV size, when you changed the seq setting to HD the clip would be too small, you could then remove the resizing so it would display properly. It would ususally be easer to create a new seq and copy and paste into it, same as Premeir.

     
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    Aug 18, 2011 3:40 PM   in reply to mrIchybob

    OK, thanks.

     

    In PrPro, from CS 5 up, one can just Import an Asset into the Project, and then drag that Asset to the New Icon, and PrPro will create the proper Sequence for that, so one should not have to change Sequence settings, or experience having the wrong one.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Aug 18, 2011 5:19 PM   in reply to RFendelman

    Here's more information about choosing and changing sequence settings:

    FAQ: How do I choose the right sequence settings?

     
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    Aug 31, 2012 10:08 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Hello All

     

    Bill Hunt wrote:

    In PrPro, from CS 5 up, one can just Import an Asset into the Project, and then drag that Asset to the New Icon, and PrPro will create the proper Sequence for that, so one should not have to change Sequence settings, or experience having the wrong one.

     

    Problem with that is that some media, AVCHD, is being read wrong by Premiere. I have personally tried what you suggest with AVCHD 1080p video clips and had them set to be on a AVC - Intra 100 1080i 60hz timeline after dropping them on the new sequence icon. There are a lot of threads about this problem and I have fallen victim to it twice since moving to CS6. In my most recent case I didn't notice till it was too late. Now I have to replace all the sequences I have this sequence clip on with a new one.

     
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    Aug 31, 2012 11:53 PM   in reply to ACT.onn

    What type of camera did you record your AVCHD footage on? The reason I ask is because I'm thinking the most likely reason it thought your video was interlaced is because several AVCHD camera's shoot footage that they call "1080p" but it's not actually normal progressive footage. It's actually PsF footage. (Progressive segmented frame)  Which with this footage it just records both fields, so what ends up happening is that Premiere ends up reading the footage like it's interlaced which it basically is, except unlike normal interlaced footage this PsF has both fields. Anyways though you can find out if this is the case by using the modify>interpet option from inside your bin, then if it says that you files field order is anything besides progressive then you'll know you will need to conform the footage to progressive as explained in this article in order to make Premiere work with it properly. Although this issue might not be the same thing you're experincing I just figured I'd mention that since it's fairly common place for AVCHD cameras to record PsF.

     

    You may want to check out this article although it may not apply to you depending on what type of camera you're using. Although they cover basically all the major AVCHD camera makers

     

    http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/psf8217s_missing_ workflow_em_part_1_benign_psf_versus_malignant_psf/

     

    http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/psf8217s_missing_ workflow_part_7_adobe_premiere_pro_cs5.5.x/

     

    http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/story/psf8217s_missing_ workflow_part_6_tepper_asks_the_camera_manufacturers8230/

     

    They talk about several Cannon, Panasonic and Sony avchd cameras that all currently record footage this way.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 1:59 AM   in reply to ComputerNovice25

    Canon Vixia HFS20

    Sony HDR-XR150

     

    I have already been through the parts of the articles I needed to. I am reworking a project now that I know what is going on. From this point on I have to remember that all my footage from these 2 cameras are fake interlaced that needs to be interpreted.

     

    Thanks.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 2:51 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Hopefully at some point camera makers will start being a little bit more up front with this information. I actually ran into quite a big headache awhile ago when I got some footage from a client and it drove me nuts that Sony didn't disclose all the facts and they simply list it as 1080p even though no edit programs are going to see it as 1080p... I remember I kept wondering why my finished product didn't look crisp and clear and instead looked "jagged" and "blurry" then I came accross the pro video articles that explained what was going on. I find it silly that the camera makers can't simply list the fact it's PsF and also the fact that both Final Cut and Premiere will see it as interlaced somewhere in their manuals...

     

    Although quite a few AVCHD cams shoot in PsF so I guess they might be figuring we should just know. But still I think it's silly.

     

    But that's just my personal hope. However until then I'm glad you now have a proper work-around.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 8:07 AM   in reply to RFendelman

    RFendelman wrote:

     

    Is it possible to change a sequences settings once you've set up the sequence?

     

    In Sequence Settings everything is grayed out so I can't change it.

    Well yes but only if the sequence is empty.

    Drag clip to timeline and a Clip Mismatch Warning dialog box appears.

    Hit Change Sequence Settings.

     

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    Sep 1, 2012 9:27 AM   in reply to Ann Bens

    Ann,

     

    Good call. I had not considered that possible workflow. You have just altered my way of thinking, as would have said "No," until you pointed out this exception.

     

    Thank you,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 10:23 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    If not the video side of the sequence, it would be nice to be able to change the Audio master track. I keep forgetting to make my sequences 5.1.

     

    Richard Knight

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 2:22 PM   in reply to Ann Bens

    Ann Bens wrote:

    Well yes but only if the sequence is empty.

     

    I emptied my sequence still could not make the changes. Does it also have to not be used anywhere as a nested timeline?

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 3:07 PM   in reply to ACT.onn

    It does not work on nested sequences.

    You have to go back to the original sequence but then its just as easy to drag a clip into the New Item icon.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 3:09 PM   in reply to ACT.onn

    It only calls up that dialog the first time you add something that doesn't match (and only in CS6).

     

    (This is yet another distinction that makes CS6 sufficiently different to warrant it's own forum separate from older versions.  Hint, hint mods.)

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 3:32 PM   in reply to Ann Bens

    Ann Bens wrote:

     

    It does not work on nested sequences.

    You have to go back to the original sequence but then its just as easy to drag a clip into the New Item icon.

    That is not what I asked. In fact that is the reverse of what I asked.

     

    I went to an original sequence, the one where the raw unedited footage was. I cut out all footage. Saved and then attempted to change the sequence settings. They were still grayed out.

     

    That "footage" sequence is used in numerous places in other sequences. Is this the reason I could not change the settings?

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 4:03 PM   in reply to ACT.onn

    I tried your workflow and could change the settings.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 4:10 PM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Are you using cs6?

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 4:52 PM   in reply to ComputerNovice25

    Yes. I am a Creative Cloud subscriber.

     

    Ann Bens wrote:

     

    I tried your workflow and could change the settings.

     

    So you had raw footage (RF) that you put on a sequence (A) that you put on a sequence (B). You then cut the footage from the sequence (A) and saved, then changed the sequence (A) settings?

     

    Sequence (B)

         ^--Sequence (A)

              ^--Raw Footage (RF)

     

    If you did and it worked then either I am doing something wrong, and that is more than likely, or there is something else that affects the ability to change the sequence settings.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 4:56 PM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Well nevermind then.  I was thinking maybe it wasn't showing up because you weren't using cs6 but clearly that was incorrect.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 5:04 PM   in reply to ComputerNovice25

     
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    Sep 2, 2012 10:37 AM   in reply to RFendelman

    But the problem is then I have to change each individual piece of the offending sequence in my final timeline to the new sequence. I need to be able to change a sequence setting on the fly. This would help when Adobe and the cameras I use decide to have a moment of stupidness.

     
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    Sep 2, 2012 10:43 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Unfortunately, the closest workflow would be to create a New Sequence, and set Custom parameters, if a complete Preset does not exist, then Copy/Paste from the offending Sequence, into the new one.

     

    Perhaps time for a Feature Request?

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Sep 2, 2012 11:53 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Make a custom sequence and save preset.

     
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    Sep 3, 2012 12:32 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Hello Bill

     

    How does that help. I have already used the footage in a sequence that I have placed in another sequence and edited the footage.

     

    I had raw footage (RF) that I put on a sequence (A) then I placed that on a new sequence (B). I then edited the footage (sequence (A)) in sequence (B).

     

    Sequence (B) - edited for content here

         ^--Sequence (A)

              ^--Raw Footage (RF)

     

    I dont know if this is the best method of doing things but I figure it will allow me to put effects and stuff on the whole edited sequence after I am done editing without having to do it for each bit. This is a project that is around 30 minutes in length of footage. I am trying to trim down to a 5 minute presentation and I do need to also create a DVD of the full 30 minutes.

     

    A feature request would be for Adobe to make any and all AVCHD footage recognized properly.

     
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    Sep 3, 2012 12:45 AM   in reply to ACT.onn

    Premiere Pro does see it properly.  The footage actually is interlaced.

     

    The better solution is for camera makers to stop using PsF and only record true progressive footage.

     
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    Sep 3, 2012 5:42 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Jim Simon wrote:

     

    In that case, no.

     

    But you can create a new one with the desired settings and Copy/Paste clips into it.

     

    In 5.5 I did noticed the handles on clips were sometimes lost when copying and pasting clips into a new sequence, in that you can't change the in and out points to extend the duration as you could in the original sequence. What I did was copy and paste the entire clip then set the in and out point in the final sequence. I hope that has been fixed in 6.0.

     
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    Sep 3, 2012 7:54 AM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Jim Simon wrote:

     

    Premiere Pro does see it properly.  The footage actually is interlaced.

     

    The better solution is for camera makers to stop using PsF and only record true progressive footage.

     

     

     

    The footage is not true interlaced either, as the two "fields" in each frame are identical.

     

    If you treat PsF as interlaced then the image is softened by the de-interlacing.  You also run into problems with Mercalli, which regards the footage as progressive even when the sequence is interlaced. 

     

    You also have problems with exporting Blu-ray legal files for Encore.  Blu-ray legal 25i exports from a Premiere 25 fps interlaced sequence with PsF files are re-encoded, but 24p are accepted. The same export from a 25p sequence with the edited files copied into it from the 25i sequence on which they were edited is accepted as 25i or 24p.

     

     

    There are also problems with a squeeze PinP effect, according to Carl Soule, if you edit these PsF files in an interlaced sequence.

     

    Certainly it would be better if cameras were made to record true progressive, though I do not know where that would leave HDV tape cameras like the Sony V1E, which records 25p as interlaced, with both fields identical.

     
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    Sep 3, 2012 9:25 AM   in reply to Alan Craven

    The footage is not true interlaced either, as the two "fields" in each frame are identical.

     

    I'm not sure that part is relevant.  The footage contains two fields, therefore it's interlaced.  How is any software supposed to know that the fields were recorded from the same moment in time?  That's why you have to tell PP to do so.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 11:07 AM   in reply to ComputerNovice25

    Does this also apply to progressive footage. I read somewhere that "all HD video... if you're shooting  progressive video both fields are displayed simultaniously." I was always under the impression that progressive video was only one frame, no fields.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 11:49 AM   in reply to TheThirdWave

    Normally, progressive video is all one frame, no fields.  But some cameras don't record true progressive, they record what's called PsF, Progressive Segmented Frame.  It splits the original frame up into two separate fields.  This is done to make the footage compatible with broadcast hardware that simply isn't capable of dealing with progressive footage.  It's a technique that had much more relevance in the days of analog standard definition broadcasting, which was originally only interlaced with progressive SD coming along decades later.  But the new ATSC standard has had genuine progressive timing as part of the specification from the start, so there's really no good excuse for any HD video to be using PsF, other than maybe some camera makers cheaping out on their chips.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 12:08 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    That's what I thought. Just wanted to confirm.

     

    My Panasonic HMC150 says it records natively as progressive and if you choose interlaced it will process it internally before send out interlaced. This isn't what you're referring to, is it?

     

    Thanks again,

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 12:22 PM   in reply to TheThirdWave

    Nope.  Panny's do it right with genuine progressive sensors and recording.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 12:48 PM   in reply to Jim Simon

    Sa - weet! Thanks.

     
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