I've received an InDesign package that has about 60 images in it, a mixture of vector (.ai and.pdf) and raster.
In the links panel, only about 8 of the images show up. These are also the only ones in the links folder.
This leads me to believe that the others were somehow pasted into the InDesign file.
I've contacted the creator, who has very limited experience of InDesign and he insists that he put them all in the same way, although I am suspicious.
Is there a way to verify if they have been pasted or to extract the files from it.
Extra information:
The suspected pasted links don't show up at all in the links panel, not even as embedded files.
The file will export to a pdf and the vectors still look sharp at 6400% in Acrobat.
I am sending this job to a printers as part of a book package and am worried about preflight.
When I right click on one of the offending images, the options that would normally be there on a correctly linked image such as Edit Original and "Graphic" are missing
I would really appreciate any help. Thanks
I'm sure there's probably a script out there somewhere to do this from directly in InDesign.
What I've done in the past is to make a PDF and choose no compression of downsizing of the images at all.
Similiar to this technique http://www.deke.com/content/extracting-image-files-indesign-sort-when- you-dont-have-originals
Pasted rasters would show in the layers panel as "pasted graphic" I beleive, but I'm not sure about vectors that come in as editable paths, but they would not be a problem as they remain editable objects as if they were drawn directly in ID. Are you seeing a problem with any of the rasters in output?
You might find this thread useful:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4343707#4343707
Pasted objects don't show in the Links panel, but the pasted content (PDF) can be extracted. If you are using OSX the script I posted in the thread extracts the pasted object, saves it to a chosen folder and links it back to the document.
http://www.zenodesign.com/forum/LinkPasted.zip
It's only useful if you need to edit the pasted content.
@Rob Day
I am using CS6 on Windows so that script won't work for me unfortunately.
@Eugene Tyson I need to keep the images as vectors if possible because there are a lot of technical drawings, with lineweights that need to be maintained.
@ Peter Spier A lot of the vector stuff is pdfs which have been made in AutoCad, so they are not editable in ID.
As you can see from this screen shot , there is nothing listed in the links panel at all even though there are many pages, filled with images
Can anyone even speculate as to how the images go in there so I can explain to the creator why I have a problem?
Thanks again for the help
cyanisthecolour wrote:
@Eugene Tyson I need to keep the images as vectors if possible because there are a lot of technical drawings, with lineweights that need to be maintained.
You can - you could copy them directly back to illustrator - a very manual way.
Or in the PDF you can choose in the Preferences what program is used for Edit Objects.
You can then use the Acrobat Tools to go to Edit Object and open the file in Illustrator - you would need to resave the image and relink it back to InDesign though.
A very manual way of doing it - but it's possible.
Eugene Tyson wrote:
cyanisthecolour wrote:
@Eugene Tyson I need to keep the images as vectors if possible because there are a lot of technical drawings, with lineweights that need to be maintained.
Or in the PDF you can choose in the Preferences what program is used for Edit Objects.
You can then use the Acrobat Tools to go to Edit Object and open the file in Illustrator - you would need to resave the image and relink it back to InDesign though.
A very manual way of doing it - but it's possible.
If you're doing it this way complex illustrator objects might have unwanted clipping and compound masks. I'd be very careful doing it this way.
Similarly, with copying and pasting back and forth between InDesign and Illustrator.
It wasn't clear from your original post that you actually need to edit these images. My impression was that you were worried about the quality of the output and making it through preflight.
So far I haven't seen anything that leads me to think there will be an output problem, if that really is your concern. No, the file construction was far from optimal, but for the moment I see not fatal mistakes.
Peter Spier wrote:
What do you see in the layers panel when you select one of these? Is each one a full page, or are they inidividual objects?
Nothing comes up in the layers panel when I click an image, as per this screen capture of another page in the document.
Because the submission guidelines issued from my end were totally ignored, these pages are mainly made from a1 presentation boards, printed to pdf. They have been reduced and laid out again in ID.
Another odd thing is that when I right-click on an an image, I don't get the image context menu. Can I take it that this is just because the content has been copied and pasted in?
Could the pasting of all those files be causing the pdf "out of memory" errors I've been experiencing with these files?
I have 16GB of RAM on this machine
Peter Spier wrote:
You need to open the layers panel in order to see something. You may also need to click the arrow next to a layer name to expand it.
I think we've already established these are pasted objects.
Sorry Peter, if I expand the Layers panel, I get a list of objects <pasted graphic>, so yes.
cyanisthecolour wrote:
So I guess the million dollar question now it, is there any automated way to get the pasted graphics back to links without pasting each one in Acrobat/Illustrator to cure the ex
Rob's script works on OSX, but it might be possible to do something similar in JavaScript (I'm not a scripter, and I don't know if JS is able to invoke Illy from ID). But as I think we've been trying to make clear, unless you have need to edit one or all of these graphics it probably is not worth the effort. Slap your colleague's wrist, tell them never to paste again, and move on.
You could try posting my script in the scripting forum and see if you can get a JavaScript translation. The script doesn't open Illustrator, it extracts the pasted object as a PDF via the clipboard.
tell application "Adobe InDesign CS6"
set myFolder to (choose folder with prompt "Please select the folder you want to save your PDF pages in") as string
set myDocument to active document
set pastedimages to all page items of every page item of myDocument
set imagePaths to {}
set copiedimages to {}
repeat with i from 1 to number of items in pastedimages
set myLink to item 1 of item i of pastedimages
--pasted files have a nothing link
if item link of myLink is nothing then
--set myimage to item i of pastedimages
select myLink
set myname to id of myLink
set hs to horizontal scale of myLink
set vs to vertical scale of myLink
set horizontal scale of myLink to 100
set vertical scale of myLink to 100
copy
set horizontal scale of myLink to hs
set vertical scale of myLink to vs
tell application "Finder"
my saveImage(myFolder, myname)
end tell
--save the paths and images as lists
set end of imagePaths to myFolder & myname & ".pdf"
set end of copiedimages to myLink
end if
end repeat
--link the saved files
repeat with j from 1 to number of items in imagePaths
set itemlink to item j of imagePaths
place alias itemlink on item j of copiedimages
end repeat
end tell
--writes clipboard to disk
--save folder, image name
on saveImage(theFolder, filename)
--the save path
set myPath to theFolder & filename & ".pdf"
try
set myFile to (open for access myPath with write permission)
set eof myFile to 0
write (the clipboard as «class PDF ») to myFile -- as whatever
close access myFile
return (POSIX path of myPath)
on error
try
close access myFile
end try
return ""
end try
end saveImage
Hi, if anybody else finds this page looking for a windows solution, I have since found this http://www.kahrel.plus.com/indesign/unembed_images.html
I hope it helps.
Thanks again guys for all your help
Export as pdf, no downsamplng, no compression. Open each pdf page in Illustrator. Run Scoop ($25) from http://worker72a.com/pages/SCP.html. It will extract selected or all images (also collects fonts if needed). These can be edited, resaved, relinked using Illustrator's rotation and scale to match. Or be used back in the Indesign doc.
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