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Digital Editions and Linux

Jul 18, 2011 10:16 AM

I've read that Digital Editions works well on Linux under Wine.

 

I wanted to give it a try, but I can't even download the software installer.

The page just declares that my OS is not supported and refuses to give me a link to anything.

 

Do I have to download the setup on a different (Windows) machine and then send it to myself in order to be able to install the software?

That's kind of stupid, isn't it?

 

If not, am I simply not seeing the link?

 
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    Jul 18, 2011 10:27 AM   in reply to llaen

    Hi!

     

    I checked the Digital Editions support pages and found the System

    Requirements HERE

    <http://www.adobe.com/products/digitaleditions/systemreqs/>.  There's no

    mention of Linux/Unix support, so I'd bet that's why you're getting the

    message....

     

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    Sep 11, 2011 9:58 AM   in reply to llaen

    Stan, I disagree.  I won't belabor the points, but I do want to point out

    that it appears you are 'assuming' you can download the software to your

    LINUX machine and makeit work.  When you download ADE, it installs - there's

    no separate setup file.  It doesn't go to a file for future use.  So, the OS

    you have on the computer will determine whether or not the files install and

    ADE can be used.  I think there is at least a thread (or more) on the forum

    that goes into more detail, so if you're interested, maybe that/those

    thread(s) would be informative.  Also, there is some interoperability

    between other ebook management software and LINUX that may eliminate the

    question entirely.

     

    Hope this helps!

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    Sep 11, 2011 12:23 PM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    There is the standalone installer (Windows/Mac) at http://www.adobe.com/devnet/digitalpublishing/ that may or may not work for you.

     
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    Jan 4, 2012 7:43 PM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    Did you actually read his message??? He said he UNDERSTOOD that Adobe didn't make a Linux version.  He just wanted to find the Windows installer to do the install himself through Wine.  Your whining that there isn't a Linux version, and shoving in his face that there isn't one is of NO help.

     
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    Mar 30, 2012 6:19 AM   in reply to llaen

    There is no linux version for ADE, so you cannot install it.

     

    However, what you can do is install WINE and then use WINE to install ADE.

    (s-g like "wine install.exe")

     

    You can also pray that this works right...

     
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    Mar 30, 2012 6:42 AM   in reply to JiuhaM_007

    The problem with ADE under Wine is it *still* doesn't let you manage content for the B&N Nook, since you need USB connectivity, which Wine doesn't have yet.  And since B&N kneecapped the Nook, there's no installing regular Android tools/apps either.

     
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    Mar 31, 2012 12:15 PM   in reply to jelabarre59

    So you're out of luck with ADE.  Sorry!

     

    You might try another epublication management system like Bluefire Reader,

    Overdrive or B&N's own site....

     

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    Apr 1, 2012 4:58 AM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    VERY MUCH out of luck.  The local library system uses Overdrive for it's digital book lending, which requires ADE to interface between their system and the Nook.  No other app will work, apparently, therefore without USB connectivity, I can't check out digital books.  (yes, I checked it out on Overdrive's site, ADE is specified as their interface).
     
    A direct interface to the Nook would require sideloading some 3rd-party ap, which thanks to the thugs at B&N has been blocked.  And B&N doesn't have any intention of letting you check-out books rather than paying full retail through them (FYI, it was a gift, and at the time it was purchased B&N hadn't pulled a Sony and *kneecapped* the device yet).   Just have to wait until CM9 is ready and just root the device with a replacement OS.

     
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    Apr 1, 2012 8:48 AM   in reply to jelabarre59

    I know....   The industry settled on certain standard software back in the

    late '90's when the digital standards were being developed into the Digital

    Millenium Copyright Act of 2000.  Adobe had their Content Server software

    in a mature enough state that it was selected for use in digital rights

    management, along with a couple of others.  Digital Editions was developed

    around the mid-90's (if my information is correct) and included the CS

    routines.  As time passed, Adobe's software became the 'de facto'

    standard.

     

    I'd talk with your local library about alternatives they might have.  You

    might be able to figure out a way to load ebooks from their Overdrive

    system directly to an ereader.....  ??????

     

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    May 20, 2012 4:35 PM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    I believe if Adobe is not going to release Linux version of  Digital Editions any soon, the community will find a way to live without DRM, Digital Editions and... Adobe. The largest science fiction publisher in the world, Tom Doherty Associates (whose labels include Tor, Forge, Orb, and Starscape books) announced on April 24th, that "by early July 2012, their entire list of e-books will be available DRM-free:       www.defectivebydesign.org

    Even O'Reilly already sells DRM-free computer and technical books in a variety of formats...

     
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    May 21, 2012 7:33 PM   in reply to llaen

    Hello,

     

    This might be more of a licensing issue than a technical one.  The following is advice only if in fact installing on Linux doesn't violate the EULA for the program.  Of course, the technical issues are the same whether or not the license allows it.

     

    Have you ever heard of user agent spoofing ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_agent_spoofing )?   Most of the browsers (all those I know of) have plugins.  Look for the User-Agent string that identifies you as a MS user, and set your browser to identify itself as that.  Or set the User-Agent string to identify yourself as an OS/X user, if you want to be sure it won't require ActiveX.

     

    I had to do this around 2001, when my bank's website at the time wanted me to use IE on Windows.  I was running FreeBSD and using Konqueror, which had (at least then) a built-in User-Agent spoofer.  The bank's site didn't actually use any proprietary MS components, it just was picky.  But by spoofing I was able to do the business I needed to do.

     

    Fortunately, fewer sites are doing that anymore.

     

    Also if you d/l the installer, perhaps you might also look into using a VM (such as VMWare Workstation or Player, of VirtualBox), and install a full OS on that.  Windows will do that much better than OS/X, which is much harder to virtunalize.  Many computers come with Windows and if so you'll have a license already.

     

    Good luck!

    Blackfeather

     
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    Sep 6, 2012 9:48 AM   in reply to llaen

    The standalone-installation package can be downloaded now from https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=digitaleditions (the link provided by Jim_Lester above is out of date), and then installed with Wine. I just installed it on Linux Mint 13, runing Wine 1.5, and I was reading my DRM-ed pdfs in less than a minute. It is annoying the adobe.com makes it nearly impossible to find the link -- I grabbed it here from Wine HQ.

     
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    Sep 6, 2012 9:52 AM   in reply to bman_reader

    Sure, can install ADE under Linux through Wine, but *still* can't use it with my Nook Tablet, since Wine doesn't work with USB.  Interfacing to my Nook Tablet is the only thing I would need ADE for, so it's useless to me.

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 4:29 AM   in reply to jelabarre59

    Those who are frustrated by not being able to use ADE on linux under WINE might want to try Virtual Box. There is a free version of it that will run on linux boxes. Of course, that does assume that you have some version of a Windows OS.

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 6:31 AM   in reply to mfseeker

    Sure, but that means having to run an entire OS inside VirtualBox just to transfer a couple of files; not entirely efficient, certainly not quick (especially on the old hardware we have at home.  Probably can't point ADE to the "network" drive (virtualbox shared folder) to manage the books on my system either.  I have to do the same thing to manage my daughter's LeapFrog toys as well; they may run Linux as the embedded OS on the LeapPad, but spit in the face of those same Linux folks when it comes to managing/updating the toys from your computer (and, like my thought on re-configuring the app data directory, they have no way to re-configure the data directory for their management application, or at least don't feel like trying).

     

    One thing in Adobe's defense, though; at least there's still active forums to discuss the problem here.  LeapFrog's solution to people's problems and complaints with the shoddy Mac & Windows toy management tools was to *shut down* the forums!

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 12:13 PM   in reply to jelabarre59

    Anyone managed to get 2.0 running ith wine ?

    As with 1.8, total fail.

     

    Why, adobe, why.... Why did you try to fix somthing that wasn't broken ?

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 12:18 PM   in reply to EowynCarter30

    A moment, please.....

     

    Adobe never claimed that Digital Editions would run under Linux.  Some

    enterprising folks figured out how to do it, but it was a kluge of

    programs.  So why do you think the new version, which still resides in the

    Windows/Mac world, would run?  Adobe didn't 'fix' something that was

    not 'broken'.....

     

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    Oct 1, 2012 12:35 PM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    No they never said it would work, but it did work. And IMHO,  if no native linux version, they should at least ensure that it runs with wine.

    Digital Edition worked fine, they had no reason to touch it. it's adobe choise to use .Net that broke everything.

     

    For now i'll stick with 1.7 and pray that adobe don't force the update....Or I won't be able to buy drm'ed books anymore....

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 12:38 PM   in reply to EowynCarter30

    They switched *to* .NET?  I thought by now that was determined to be a failed technology <g>.

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 12:38 PM   in reply to EowynCarter30

    Good luck, but don't blame Adobe for 'breaking' something.  They are not

    designing the new software for your environment, so your ability to use it

    under Linux/whatever was never part of the design.  If there's any 'blame'

    here, it's whatever drove you away from the Microsoft environment, not

    Adobe.

     

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    Oct 1, 2012 12:46 PM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    wine definitivly complain about .net. when it did not before.

     

    Digital edition is the only way to download books protected by adobe DRM. The vast majority of e-books sold if you ommit amazon.

    So yes, they definitivly have a responsability in making sure everyone can open drm'ed books... No matter if it's on mac os ; windows ; or linux...

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 1:24 PM   in reply to EowynCarter30

    >  Digital edition is the only way to download books protected by adobe DRM. The vast majority

    > of e-books sold if you ommit amazon.

     

    Especially if you have a Nook Tablet and want to check out library books.  Since B&N want to make it impossible to borrow books, they won't make the Overdrive app available (and you can't sideload, also thanks to the thugs at B&N pulling a Sony by kneecapping the NT).

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 4:22 PM   in reply to jelabarre59

    We'll continue this one more round.

     

    Adobe has one method of implementing digital rights management via its

    Content Server Manager.  It is not the only one, and it is not usable on

    platforms other than Windows or Mac.  Amazon and Apple have implemented

    different methods of digital rights management.

     

    The only way to utilize some of this software on a UNIX or LINUX

    platform is to use what I used to call 'interface software' when I worked

    for IBM.  That's software which has not been written by the OS software

    vendors (Microsoft, Mac and those writing the UNIX code) and is not

    sanctioned by them.  You are at the mercy of those who write 'interface

    software' and should not expect their software to provide you with 100%

    compatibility/function found in the OS software.  Simple as that.

     

    ANY company who writes software packages to operate within an OS can get

    the OS software vendor to certify that their software operates within the

    design parameters of the OS.  If they do, then you have assurance that

    their software will operate consistently within the OS environment.

    There's no guarantee that the software package will continue to operate

    consistently if the OS vendor changes their software.  This is the case

    presently with Digital Editions and Mac Lion OS.  DE doesn't run under Lion.

     

    LINUX and WINE are intended, but not certified by Microsoft, to provide the

    same features and functions to software packages that they would experience

    if it were running under Windows.  There's no guarantee that this is the

    case.  And you should not expect it to be, which you do.

     

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    Oct 1, 2012 4:41 PM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    Well, I've been informed that B&N has finally added the Overdrive app to their market.  So now I can finally use Overdrive on my tablet directly, and don't need ADE to transfer books to the NT.  So that removes the one and only reason I needed Adobe Digital Editions.  So at this point Adobe can do (or not do) whatever they want, as far as I'm concerned; don't need ADE for anything anymore, and I can use the much more useful and capable Calibre (http://calibre-ebook.com) to manage my ebooks .

     
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    Oct 1, 2012 10:22 PM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    LINUX and WINE are intended, but not certified by Microsoft, to provide the

    same features and functions to software packages that they would experience

    if it were running under Windows.  There's no guarantee that this is the

    case.  And you should not expect it to be, which you do.

    No, what I expect is adobe to poviding us a way for digital eidtion to run with linux. Either with a native app, or by patching ade or wine to get it to work. I'm tierd to have to dual boot windows becasue of some lazy devlopers.

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 8:08 AM   in reply to EowynCarter30

    If it hasn't happened yet, don't hold your breath......

     

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    Oct 2, 2012 8:12 AM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    If noboddy says anything, it's definitivly not going to happen.

     

    Maybe if we keep aksing, it will finally reach someone...

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 9:17 AM   in reply to EowynCarter30

    Like I said, if you don't specifically need DRM features from ADE, you might as well be using Calibre (as DRM would be the *only* reason to use ADE).

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 9:40 AM   in reply to jelabarre59

    I'm sorry, but Calibre does not manage digital rights.  Check out

    the overview located HERE <http://calibre-ebook.com/about>.  Specifics can

    be found under FAQ's - "How do I use purchased EPUB books with Calibre?"

    The answer is:

     

    "Most purchased EPUB books have

    DRM<http://drmfree.calibre-ebook.com/about#drm>.

    This prevents calibre from opening them. You can still use calibre to store

    and transfer them to your ebook reader. First, you must authorize your

    reader on a Windows machine with Adobe Digital Editions. Once this is done,

    EPUB books transferred with calibre will work fine on your reader. When you

    purchase an epub book from a website, you will get an ”.acsm” file. This

    file should be opened with Adobe Digital Editions, which will then download

    the actual ”.epub” ebook. The ebook file will be stored in the folder “My

    Digital Editions”, from where you can add it to Calibre."

     

    So, the process involved is to use ADE on a Windows machine for the

    download and 'storage' of an EPUB with DRM.  Then, you use Calibre to

    access the ADE library and transfer the ebook to your ereader.  This is not

    the same thing that you imply in your post.

     

    There's also some notes in the files concerning how to use Calibre under

    LINUX.  However, they discuss only how to interface Calibre with LINUX so

    that it will work.

     

    Bottom line: you'll need to use ADE and Windows with ebooks that have DRM.

    You cannot replace ADE with Calibre for those ebooks.

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    Oct 2, 2012 11:48 AM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    Yeap, DRM is the ONLY reason i use digital edition. To turn .ascm into .epub.

     

    Calibre, as said, will not be able to deal with drm. And I hate calibre anyway. I love drm free books. No sofware needed. Download book, copy book to reader, read. So nice

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 11:53 AM   in reply to Frustrated in AZ

    My e-reader is authorized using the Operdrive app (now that B&N have grudgingly allowed it into their marketplace).  I can now use Overdrive to directly manage AdobeDRM ebooks from our library, and do not need ADE anyplace in the process (you enter your AdobeID in the app configuration).  Everything else I read is from Gutenberg or Creative Commons (neither of which use DRM) or already bought from B&N.

     

    If, even after all that, there is *still* a need to use ADE, tehn we get back to the original topic, which is that Adobe needs to get it's head out of it's butt and make ADE available on Linux (with USB support, since I'd need to transfer books from the app to my Nook Tablet).  So one or the other; ADE isn't needed when you have the Overdrive app, or Adobe needs to get porting NOW.

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 12:02 PM   in reply to jelabarre59

    My reader is not a nook Barnes and noble unknow in france. Sony app don't run with wine. Amazon, well.. it's amazon. Kobo app... Mmm, Maybe i should try this one with wine.

     

    So YOU don't need ade, but i definitivly do. Or I woudn't be there talking about this.

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 12:12 PM   in reply to EowynCarter30

    So you still need the USB connectivity, which running under Wine wouldn't give you (as yet).  So that's why I think Adobe would need to make a linux-native version of ADE.  Unless, of course, Adobe would care to finish/fix the USB support in Wine along with getting ADE to work correctly under Wine.  Their choice, either way, but they MUST choose one, and choose NOW.

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 12:15 PM   in reply to jelabarre59

    actually, there's a third option: Adobe could just tell all their customers using AdobeDRM that they should just abandon DRM as a bad idea.  Just tell the customers that they have proven themselves to be incapable of supporting users.

     
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    Oct 2, 2012 12:33 PM   in reply to jelabarre59

    No DRM would be the way to go indead.

    usb work fine

     

    Kobo app seams to run. That's someting.But i don't belive i can get the epub. No, definitivly not. Looking at other apps was worth a try, but...

     
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    Oct 25, 2012 12:24 AM   in reply to llaen

    Virtualize XP in VirtualBox!

     
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