Hello,
I would like to know if Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 will be able ot run/work on a
32-bit version of Windows 7.
I.E. on a laptop. Yes, The laptop will be just able to run the program, providedthe program will run on a 32-bit operaing system.
Thanks!!
As Jim stated, an emphatic NO. Premiere Pro CS6 is 64-bit exclusive, and thus requires an entirely 64-bit system (CPU and OS). If your system has only a 32-bit OS installed, Premiere Pro versions since CS5 will not even install at all, let alone run at all, on that system. The last version of Premiere Pro to support Windows x32 was CS4.
As of PrPro CS 5, it is ONLY a 64-bit program, requiring a 64-bit OS to install/run. Going back to CS 5, if one had the Production Premium suite, PrPro CS 4 (32-bit) was included. I do not recall any 32-bit versions of any of the Production Studio, or Master Collection, being included with CS 6.
It is an OS upgrade, or nothing.
Good luck,
Hunt
Alright, Thank you 3 both. Now I hve one final question on this forum.
Can you get a laptop with a 64-bit operating system, and if so, how does it handle, compared to a 32-bit? e.g. Faster, slower, runs hotter etc. (I know there are a lot of variables in that, but just in general.)
Thanks!
Your best bet with any editing system is to wipe the hard drive and install Windows yourself, then install only those programs you need for editing. Use a second computer for everything else, like web surfing, email, games, etc.
So from that perspective, yes you can have a laptop with a 64 bit OS. You just need to buy the right version of Windows.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992
Buy a Laptop that is designed and built for Video Editing http://forums.adobe.com/message/4578948
Also, I would like to know exactly which laptop that you're currently using, and what exactly the specs (processor (CPU), RAM, hard drive(s), GPU or integrated graphics) are. After all, if you are running 32-bit Windows because your laptop is simply too old to run 64-bit programs properly (or if the components fall short of Adobe's minimum requirements, such as too little RAM or a CPU that simply cannot run most currently available programs properly), it's definitely time for a new laptop.
Remember, the reason why CS5 and higher is 64-bit only is partly due to its tremendous requirements as far as the amount of RAM is concerned. In fact, CS6 really needs 16GB of RAM - far more RAM than any 32-bit version of Windows can address (remember, the most amount of RAM that 32-bit Windows can address is 3.99GB total minus the 700MB or so that is reserved for hardware interrupt caching) - just to perform acceptably, especially on weaker-performance laptops. And Adobe's official minimum is still 2GB although that amount barely runs Premiere Pro CS6 at all, and you would not have been able to do much if anything at all in that program.
And had I given advice about a low-end laptop back then, I would not have picked a model with 32-bit Windows Vista or Windows 7 at all due to their extremely small amount of headroom between Microsoft's minimum RAM requirements (IIRC, Windows 7 requires a minimum of 1GB of RAM just to even run at all - and yet it cannot utilize 4GB of RAM) and the maximum amount of total RAM that it can address.
I currently do not have a laptop of any kind. I have 2 desktops, one 12-year-old one I use for the internet and a few other things. The other desktop machine is my gamming machine that I use mainly for video games. I have premiere on that machine because my internet one can't run it (Too slow, and 32-bit). I want a laptop for basically everything, internet, music, DVDs, premiere, iTunes, some small gaming, etc. I'll be going into collage in a few years, and am probably going to need one. I don't care if it is a little slow with Premiere, all I care is that it will run, and work properly. It's obviously going to run slower than my one machine.
The link that John T. posted (Reply # 6) will offer two possibilities:
ADK (they design computers to run Adobe programs, plus some others) and Sager (they design extreme gaming laptops, but those can be easily adapted to run PrPro, and most other Adobe programs).
I currently have an older Sager, but will be going with an ADK to replace it.
While those are not the ONLY suppliers, their machines are stout, and extremely powerful. I have had zero issues with the Sager Customer Support, and two of the main folk from ADK, Eric & Scott, post here and in the Hardware Forum constantly. They too offer great Customer Support.
Good luck,
Hunt
Thank you for your assistance, but I do not have $1,500 I can spend on a laptop. Plus, There is a computer place down the street from my house, and they build computers and laptops, at a discounted price. And yes, I trust them. If anything I would get my laptop from that place. I understand your recomendation, but I do not entirly trust websites with big purchases like this.
Thank you all for helping me, I know where I will get my laptop from, if I get the money for it.
If the local shop works with custom laptops, and understand Video editing, then staying local will be a benefit.
Good luck, and I think that John T. also linked to some useful material, on what is required to edit Video with PrPro on a laptop. Take a look at that, and do not hesitate to give the shop a copy.
If they have any questions, the Hardware Forum would be a great place to ask those: http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere/hardware_forum?view=discuss ions
Hunt
I want a laptop for basically everything, internet, music, DVDs, premiere, iTunes, some small gaming, etc.
Bad idea. Again, best practice is to use your edit rig only for editing, with a second machine for anything else you want to do. Quite often a lot of other programs will interfere with your editing software - codec packs, video games, office suites, etc.
I have been fortunate with having other programs on my laptop, which does see quite a bit of video and image editing. I have Office, plus full e-mail, including MailWasher. Now, no CODEC packs, and no games (other than the stuff that installs with Windows), so it is otherwise fairly clean. I also do NOT do much multi-tasking, when editing video, other than maybe having PS, En, AI and AE open, as they are needed.
Hunt
I never use my computer for 2 things at once
That's not the issue. Most modern computers are more than capable of doing several things at once.
The issue is with INSTALLING unnecessary software on an edit rig. You take your chances that something in that 'unnecessary' program will screw up your edit system. So the safe bet is to simply not do that. Use one machine dedicated to editing, and nothing else, and a second machine for everything else.
My computer has Win7 64bit Pro -and- CS5 Master Collection -and- MS Office 2007 Pro -and- a couple dozen or so "small" utility programs (Imgburn, FTP, etc)
I use one computer for everything... no room, or $$, or a 2nd computer... I also have never installed any codecs that did not come with CS5
The only game I have installed is pokerstars.com to try and learn Texas Hold'Em (monthly splurge is a small $$ poker tournament at a local card room... and I play online once in awhile to try and get better)
I edit ONLY video from my Canon vixia and wife's Flip, and when editing I do nothing else... and I have had ZERO problems
While it would be nice to have a dedicated (and faster) video editing computer, not everyone has the space or money to do that
This is not an answer this is a question and you've been very helpfull to me.
I have a Dell machine that the processers are 86 meaning 32 my current OS in XP pro I'm updateing to Window 7 64 bit sp1 pro.Then I plan on getting Prem Pro CS6. I'm looking at the specs it saying I need a 64 bit processer talk to Adobe Tech they said everything would be fine I don't get it. Seem like I've got a problem. If CS6 won't work will CS4 work using the windows 7 pro in 32 bit mode
Think that covers it
Thank you
Unfortunately, it's too old to run Premiere Pro CS6 - and also below Adobe's stated minimum requirements. The Pentium D is based on the now-very-obsolete NetBurst technology (used on the original Pentium 4), and it is extremely inefficient (in terms of performance per clock cycle). Adobe requires a Core 2 Duo (or a Core 2-based Pentium Dual-Core, not to be confused with the archaic Pentium D) at an absolute minimum to run Premiere Pro CS6 at all. But because of its 64-bit-exclusive operation, a Core i5 or higher is better if you're going to run CS6 at all.
As for CS4, the Pentium D still barely meets Adobe's practical minimum requirements for HDV, and insufficient for AVCHD.
Thank you for a clear answer my CS 4 Runs except for a sometime crash but I've learned to live with it. What I wanted to avoid is formating my computer to Window 7 64bit Pro and discovering CS 4 would not work any longer which is something the Windows 7 advisor said and I need to upgrade but now I see that is not possible.
As I mentioned Adobe said CS6 would work I did not believe them and to format and discover I had to go back to XP would be a waist of time.
Final question of the day will CS4 run on Windows 7 64 bit Pro under XP Mode if it won't I'm not installing Windows 7 and leaving things as they are.
Thank you
I don't know about CS6, but the CS5 Master Collection I have included PPro CS4... so Adobe certainly seems to think it will work with Win7 64bit
If you have problems, and since you have Win7 64bit Pro, you could download the Windows virtual XP compatibility addon
This is only ONE example of using Virtual XP http://forums.adobe.com/thread/702693
-And a Tutorial http://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/using-windows-7s-xp-mode-step-by- step/
Thank you I do not know or understand this stuff I do my best with what I have. Your comment on is it worth the effort seem if I did do this I'd be waisting my time. Since I gain nothing switching to Window 7 it would seem point less to install it other than the fact Windows XP will soon be a discontinued support item in the near future. I'd do it if I knew Pre Pro CS 4 would work thought what do you think would it. Love to buy new one but with what I do there's no great point in doing that I know it's old but it works great.
Someone tell me will PP CS 4 work on it Windows 7 sp 1 64 bit even though it may not be a great move if it will work even to a slight advantage
or should I get the 32bit
Sorry this is the only way I know how to get the answers
Thank you
Reese,
The system you currently have is very outdated. I had a similar outdated server (2004) here that died the other day and the only solution was to get a new one. It made no sense to replace parts, the costs would have been too high in relation to getting it back up on its feet, so I decided to get a new server. You are in a somewhat similar situation. One of these days your system will die of old-age. Well, that is the major risk of being born, sometime in the future you will die. Being born is deadly, just like smoking if we believe the statements on cigarette packs. ![]()
The best approach I can offer is to start saving for a new system. Let your old system run as it is, don't invest time or money to keep it going. Instead have a look at some of the FAQ articles, like Adobe Forums: What PC to build? An update...
Another way to show you about planning for the future is here: Planning and Buiding a new NLE system.
My editing system is getting pretty old and I know I need to replace it sometime in the (not too distant) future, so I plan ahead and consider all my options. Sure, this is not a system for everybody and likely it will end up in the € 7 K range, but I show it to give you an example of how you might go about building a new system.
I realize you may not be up to speed with all the technical jargon, but if you take your time reading these pages, it may help you to get acquainted with the basics you need to know for a new system.
I found something related to Windows 7 being ok running CS4 hope it's accurate
I started looking I can get a Dell XPS again the 8500 model that should do all I need it to do here where I'm at.
I'll look into your links
I get these ideas that I need to improve something then find it hard to hold myself back.
31 is something I found tested link
I have something with Dell:
FYI, I just bought a Dell Precision T410 server with dual Xeon E5620 CPU's, 16 GB RAM and 2 x 500 GB disks, no extended service, no OS, nothing else for € 1,315 which seems reasonable. All the rest I did myself (well, more accurately, my son did it). Installed an old LSI PERC raid controller, added 5 x 1 TB disks and a DVD burner from the old server and installed ISXi 5.1 on a USB stick and it is running nicely.
If you want to get a video editing system and do not want to build it yourself, forget about Dell, go to ADK Video Editing and ask for Eric Bowen.
Harm Millaard wrote:
FYI, I just bought a Dell Precision T410 server ...
If you want to get a video editing system and do not want to build it yourself, forget about Dell, go to ADK Video Editing and ask for Eric Bowen.
Harm, why didn't you buy a server from ADK? Well OK, they don't make servers - then not from a customer server shop? (with SuperMicro, Asus, Tyan, EVGA COTS components)? Cheaper, no custom un-molex hell...
Right, few others have on-site warranty, the quality of engineering that goes into that server, warranty options, maintenance and monitoring options. Same with HP.
You don't think some of those factors could apply to an editing system?
Fortunately, but this only applies to me, not to the average person, I don't need on-site warranty, maintenance and monitoring from third parties, whether Dell, HP or whatever name, I have the support on-site. My son helps Dell, HP, and a number of other companies with their server problems, not the other way around. This is lucky for me and not the average situation.
For an editing system you are best served with a company that KNOWS what editing entails like ADK. Unfortunately Dell, HP, and name a lot of others have no idea what video editing means. They probably have never even installed PR on any system, let alone have any idea how it works.
Harm, why didn't you buy a server from ADK? Well OK, they don't make servers - then not from a customer server shop? (with SuperMicro, Asus, Tyan, EVGA COTS components)? Cheaper, no custom un-molex hell...
I needed a system the next day and found nothing cheaper and with faster delivery than Dell as I said:
They have a great price/quality if you select a base system and do not add anything.
My son helps Dell, HP, and a number of other companies with their server problems, not the other way around.
I hear you. Without your son, they wouldn't even know how to go about fixing their server problems... ![]()
Ask your son if there are reasons IT departments buy Dell and HP servers outside of speedy delivery, inertia and legacy reasons. Engineering reasons. Share his response with us, please.
Unfortunately Dell, HP, and name a lot of others have no idea what video editing means.
That's what this forum and specialty integrators are for?
After all, there gotta be a reason Z800 (and before that, xw series) has been the staple of video editing in Windows - for large post houses, .gov, etc. Or the fact that Z800 is the most recommended system for video editing - by Adobe, Avid, Sony, Grass Valley.
Regardless - what you said about getting base Tier 1 configurations and adding storage, memory, GPUs yourself - couldn't agree more - unless there is a lot of disposable income. Buying systems from specialty integrators who know their stuff - ditto.
(I am seriously off-topic here - sorry about that.)
Ask your son if there are reasons IT departments buy Dell and HP servers outside of speedy delivery, inertia and legacy reasons. Engineering reasons. Share his response with us, please.
The resons are simple, single source of supply, corporate rebates, attractive price/quality for the bulk of the users. Reliable machines for everyday office work. Great standardization. Simple roll-out and maintenance. Single slip-streamed installation. Easy Help desk.
But read some of the posts here and you will notice a number of common issues with users that have an IT department lurking around. Problems with slip-streamed installations, user rights, storage policies, lacking hardware, lack of understanding the needs of users, etc. All too often the IT department does not understand issues, that are raised here because 99% of the employees can use their standard Dell or HP for office applications or accounting without problems. Why would you need administrative rights? Nobody gets them outside IT. Why do you need a different disk configuration? Use the storage server. You are running out of disk space? Use an external USB disk, we still have a number laying around. Why do you need a nVidia card? Everybody works without problems with the base AMD/ATI card. You want more memory. Sorry, we have a standard configuration for everybody, including you. We make no exceptions.
Sounds familiar?
Sounds familiar?
Haha, totally! Usually it's my clients who have to swim against that stream quite often. Then they can't do their job, go upstairs, and get clearance to (a) call me for a quote for customized Z820s, (b) set up a media lab that is not under direct control of the IT folks.
Harm,
I agree with all of your statements. I have had many clients, who were the only graphics people in larger organizations. They were the "outcasts," as far as IT was concerned. They focused on the mass, and the poor users, who needed something different were always completely out of luck. That does help standardize what the IT department does, and makes the majority of their work more efficient, but at the expense of the one (or few) person, who is doing graphics, or video work. I believe that each of your IT comments has been passed on to me, at one time, or another, and in one form, or another.
Well-stated,
Hunt
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