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PS CS6 Render Video lacks options on OSX

Sep 7, 2012 6:37 AM

Tags: #h.264 #mp4 #quicktime #mov

I can see that the render video options are vastly different in OS X and Windows versions of PS CS6. Not only they are different layed out but as far as I can see a wide range of codecs are missing on the OS X version.

 

In particular, how can I export a video file using QuickTime container and H.264 codec in OS X version? If You select H.264 video it creates an .mp4 file whereas I wnat a .mov file. Same codec but different container.

 

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1183 Views   15 Replies   Latest reply: Bill Hunt, Sep 7, 2012 11:42 AM
 
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  • JJMack
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    Sep 7, 2012 7:48 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    Sound a lot like the PC Version.   Video will hang the PC 32bit version of Photoshop and the 64 bit PC CS6 version uses the Adobe media encoder to export|revder video its Presets are vastly diffrent from then setting available in CS5 where the Adobe media encoder was not used. CS6 has many problems and some desiriable features and options are no longer available or supported...

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 8:12 AM   in reply to JJMack
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    I'm not sure I understand you clearly. I'm asking about the OSX version not the PC version for PS CS6 and not comparing anything to the CS5.

     

    Why wouldn't the PS OSX version (which is 64-bit) doesn't use the media encoder while the Windows version use? Adobe shouts about the platform indipendance, but this is a major problem.

     

    Is thee a link you can share where I can see the CS6 differences between the platforms?

     
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  • JJMack
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    Sep 7, 2012 8:20 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    Not that I know of. all I see is in what is new in CS6 nothing about Presets

    Video

     

    #

    The redesigned, clip-based Timeline panel includes transitions and effects that give finished videos professional polish. Easily change clip duration and speed, and apply motion effects to text, still images, and Smart Objects.

    Video Groups combine multiple video clips and content such as text, images, and shapes on a single Timeline track. Separate audio tracks allow for easy editing and adjusting.

    The redesigned video engine also supports a wider range of import formats. When you're ready to export final video, Photoshop provides helpful presets and options for the DPX, H.264, and QuickTime formats.

    Note: In Windows, you install QuickTime separately.

    Learn More: For detailed instructions, see New video features in Photoshop CS6. For a quick video overview, watch Intuitive Video Features by RC Conception.

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 8:44 AM   in reply to JJMack
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    In PC CS6 Video Presets foldet the are three sub folders the file name are the name of the preset I see in video export

     

    DPX Presets

    01920 x 1080 24p Full Range (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 24p Full Range (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 24p Over Range (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 24p Over Range (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 24p Standard (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 24p Standard (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 24p Video (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 24p Video (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Full Range (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Full Range (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Over Range (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Over Range (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Standard (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Standard (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Video (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 25p Video (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Full Range (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Full Range (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Over Range (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Over Range (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Standard (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Standard (max bit depth).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Video (8bit).epr

    01920 x 1080 30p Video (max bit depth).epr

    02048 x 1152 24p Full Range (max bit depth).epr

    02048 x 1152 24p Over Range (max bit depth).epr

    02048 x 1152 24p Standard (max bit depth).epr

    02048 x 1152 24p Video (max bit depth).epr

    04096 x 2048 24p Full Range (max bit depth).epr

    04096 x 2048 24p Over Range (max bit depth).epr

    04096 x 2048 24p Standard (max bit depth).epr

    04096 x 2048 24p Video (max bit depth).epr

     

    H264 Presets

    1_High Quality.epr

    2_Medium Quality.epr

    3_Low Quality.epr

    Android Phone & Tablet - 480p 29.97.epr

    Android Phone & Tablet - 480p Widescreen 29.97.epr

    Android Phone - 320x240 29.97.epr

    Android Phone - 360p Widescreen 29.97.epr

    Android Tablet - 1080p 29.97.epr

    Android Tablet - 720p 29.97.epr

    Apple iPhone, iPod - 320x240 24.epr

    Apple TV, iPad, iPhone 3G and newer - 360p Widescreen 24.epr

    Apple TV, iPad, iPhone 4 and newer - 720p 29.97.epr

    HD 1080i 25 (1.33 PAR).epr

    HD 1080i 25.epr

    HD 1080i 29.97 (1.33 PAR).epr

    HD 1080i 29.97.epr

    HD 1080p 24 (1.33 PAR).epr

    HD 1080p 24.epr

    HD 1080p 25.epr

    HD 1080p 29.97.epr

    HD 720p 24.epr

    HD 720p 25.epr

    HD 720p 29.97.epr

    NTSC DV 24p.epr

    NTSC DV Widescreen 24p.epr

    NTSC DV Widescreen.epr

    NTSC DV.epr

    PAL DV Widescreen.epr

    PAL DV.epr

    Vimeo HD 1080p 29.97.epr

    Vimeo HD 720p 25.epr

    Vimeo HD 720p 29.97.epr

    Vimeo SD Widescreen 29.97.epr

    YouTube HD 1080p 29.97.epr

    YouTube HD 720p 25.epr

    YouTube HD 720p 29.97.epr

    YouTube SD 360p Widescreen 29.97.epr

     

    Quicktime Presets

    Animation High Quality.epr

    Animation Medium Quality.epr

    JPEG 2000 High Quality.epr

    JPEG 2000 Medium Quality.epr

    Uncompressed.epr

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 8:46 AM   in reply to JJMack
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    Thank you for the New video features in Photoshop CS6 link, most helpful. I know know more to change my question to:

     

    Why is Adobe Media Encoder different between Windows and OS X versions of CS6?

     

    On Windows Media Encoder has way more export options, like ARRIRAW, RED files, etc. OS X doesn't. Also, on Windows Media Encoder is a stand alone program that allows you to encode in the background. On OS X it is within the app and during render the app is stalled.

     

    Does anyone know if CS6 has this inherent limitations on OS X (and Adobe is whitewashing the case) or my set-up is missing something.

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 8:52 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    Thank you for the preset list, which looks like the same as I have, BUT the Adobe Media Encoder on the Windows PS6 has way more export options than these. Have a look at what Adobe site says.

     

    http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/mediaencoder/features.html

     

    The above has nothing to do with what I have! Are there two different apps with the same name and version number?

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 9:20 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    I do not have the Adobe Media Encoder product installed on my PC.  Photoshop CS6 must include it or a subset of it in its install what I do see in common program files in the adobe tree is this:

    mediaserv.jpg

    87MB 141 files

    87MB.jpg

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 9:20 AM   in reply to JJMack
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    Thank you for the information. I will wait a few days to see if someone else can verify that there are indeed two different Adobe Media Encoders, one is full blown separate app the other a subset integrated in PS. Then, I will open a support call to Adobe to see how and if I can get the full blown version.

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 9:51 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    I think the your problem may be the redesign of video support in Photoshop which changed what photoshop used to encode/export video.  I do not know if you installed an Adone Media Encoder Product that you would have any more function in Photoshop video rendering dialog. You may have to use an old version of Photoshop or an other Adobe product pefhaps Adobe media encoder to transcode Photoshop video output or an Adobe video suite.  I do not do video perhaps there is a Adobe video forum you can ask what the best way to creat the video you need.

     

    http://forums.adobe.com/community/ame

    http://forums.adobe.com/community/premiere

     
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  • sarumbear
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    Sep 7, 2012 9:56 AM   in reply to JJMack
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    I do know what is the best way to create video. All I want to find out is why there is such a vast difference between platforms and if there is anything that can be added to rectify this deficiency on the OS X? Hence, my question in the subject.

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 10:31 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    The point I'm trying to make is CS6 video is a redisign the new CS6 UI  for Quicktime seems to have way fewer capabilites when you compare it to CS5 vedio redering.

    cs5video.jpg

    CS5QT.jpg

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 10:35 AM   in reply to JJMack
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    I do understand the point you are making but the issue I have is not that.

     

    a) I do not see all of those option on the OSX export dialog,

    b) The PC that I saw the export working has an external Media Encoder app that has zillion encoding options, way more than you have. You can read all about it on the product info link I've posted earlier.

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 11:15 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    In the case I only have the preset I listed and I do not have the media encoder product installed. When I search on Adobe Medeia Encoder and I click on try now it brings me to Download a free trial of Adobe Premiere Pro CS6 so it must be be part of Premire Pro you could try the trial. Its an $800 program over here in the states.....

     
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  • Bill Hunt
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    Sep 7, 2012 11:41 AM   in reply to sarumbear
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    I do not know if this will apply to PS, but in Premiere Pro, some Mac users have lost their Export settings.

     

    The "fix" for most has been to Deactivate PrPro. Close the program. Reboot, and then Activate it again. That has gotten the Export settings back for many.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Sep 7, 2012 11:42 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt
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    This PrPro FAQ Entry might prove useful: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1050730?tstart=0

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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