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Gerben Wierda
Gerben Wierda
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Anchoring an image: no wrap

Sep 9, 2012 1:21 AM

I have a lot of images, some small, some large. I create frames for them with a numbered caption so I canrefer to them.

 

I do have a problem, my text flows and my images do not. So, I looked up how to anchor them. I can do that, but when this happens, they stop wrapping text.

 

Here is the 'before' image, unanchored:

Screen Shot 2012-09-09 at 9 September 09.59.46.png

and here is the after, with the panel open to see how I custom positioned the image:

Screen Shot 2012-09-09 at 9 September 10.04.03.png

When I use this, I lose all wrapping for the object.

 

When I try inline, it does wrap in the column it has been anchored, but not outside it:

Screen Shot 2012-09-09 at 9 September 10.11.54.png

How do I get an anchored object to wrap?

727 Views   6 Replies   Latest reply: Gerben Wierda, Sep 9, 2012 11:38 AM
 
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  • Laubender
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    1. Laubender,
    Sep 9, 2012 2:27 AM   in reply to Gerben Wierda
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    @Gerben – can you show us the anchor?
    All depends where your anchor is positioned…

    I have no trouble with text wrap and anchored objects regarding multiculumn text frames.

     

    See the following screen grabs:
    Situation 1: Text wrap is active for text AFTER the anchor:

     

    AnchoredTextFrameInMultiColumnTextFrame.png

     

    Situation 2: Text wrap is still active for text AFTER the anchor. Unfortunately the anchored object is moved to a position, where text wrap is not possible.

     

    AnchoredTextFrameBeforeAnchor.png

     

    Hope, that helps.

     

    Uwe

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    2. Peter Spier,
    Sep 9, 2012 3:37 AM   in reply to Laubender
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    To expand on that just a bit, there are two "flavors" for anchored objects, inline/above line and custom, and wrap works differently for the two types. For inline/above line wrap affects text follwing the anchor point, but for custom anchored objects wrap only affects text that comes after the entire line in which the anchor is located.

     
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    3. Gerben Wierda,
    Sep 9, 2012 4:49 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    The problem is with what Laubender showed. The left column is texually before the right column where the anchor is, hence the wrap doesn't work for the left column. So you need to anchor early and that means the anchor point itself can end up more easily on a previous page, take the frame with it, which then even more probably ends up before the anchor.

     

    I can understand the difficulty of getting that right computationally in a system like InDesign, you will need to calculate a page and then recalculate because a later object may affect earlier wrap, which will then potentially even move the anchor to a next page. There are solutions, afaik, but it is not simple.

     
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  • Peter Spier
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    4. Peter Spier,
    Sep 9, 2012 8:02 AM   in reply to Gerben Wierda
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    I don't know anyone who uses anchored objects in running text on a regular basis who doesn't encounter at least one problem that needs to be dealt with in some other way to make the layout work correctly. It's just one of those things with the current state of the art.

     
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    5. Gerben Wierda,
    Sep 9, 2012 11:31 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    I used to do stuff like this in TeX. You don't have that problem there with TeX macro packages (like LaTeX and ConTeXt), but on the other hand you have far less control over positioning, let alone wrapping around irregular shapes (possible, but in practice almost undoable).

     
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    6. Gerben Wierda,
    Sep 9, 2012 11:38 AM   in reply to Peter Spier
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    Doing this gives me another problem. The running view numbers get screwed up. A first unanchored view on page 1 gets number 2, the first anchored view gets number 1, even if it is after a few pages. All the anchored views are numbered before the unanchored ones are.

     

    So, to keep not a too crazy numbering, you need to anchor all objects or have a different naming/numbering scheme for unanchored ones.

     
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