If I have opened a RAW image in PS5.5 and it has several layers already modifying the file, can I convert the bottom layer to a smart object and then use ACR tools like de-fringing, etc.? I notice flaws in the image that would be corrected that way, and I don't want to start from scratch. I am able to make the layer a smart object. I don't know how to invoke the ACR tools.
This image arrived from Lightroom with "no Lightroom effects" chosen at transfer, if that makes any difference.
Thanks in advance, folks.
If you open a RAW file through lightroom there may be a way have Photoshop open it as a smart Object I do no know I do not use Lightroom. If you open the Raw file through the Bridge or Photoshop in ACR which is a Photoshop plug-in ACR can open it as a Smart Object layer in Photoshop where the embedded object is a copy of the RAW file and Adobe RAW conversion engine settings. Embedded object can be reopened. If the embeded is a RAW File it will open in ACR. If the embedded object is a Tiff or Jpeg file it can be openned in ACR or Phptoshop. If the embedded object is a raster layer or a grout pf layers that have been converted into a smart object these smart object can be opened in Photoshop. When a Smart Obkect is reopen in ACR or Photoshop it opens as a temporay work document the when changes are made and committen by ACR or Photoshop the original reopened smart object will be upstare with the changes made to the work document .
If you open the RAW file through Lightroom or ACR into Phoroshop as a RGB image a background layer its a raster layer converted to a smart opject it would not open in ACR. However there is a Photoshop Script you can Download from Russell Brows web site that you could run with the Background Layer the active Photoshop target. The Script would save the Active layer as a Tiff file and then Place the tiff file into the current document as a smart object layer where the active layer is. This Placed Smart Object layer contains a copy of a tiff file that was saved using the active layer after the place operation the Tiff file and the old active(ie background image) layer are deleted. If your ACR preferences are set to open Tiff files doubling click on the smart object icon in that layer in the layers palette will open the Tiff in ACR.
Thanks for the reply and all the pathways suggested for starting/opening imagework in Phototshop. I will digest these for future work.
My current issue was that I noticed, AFTER I invested a lot of time making some layers and a complicated selection within the image, that I had not taken out chromatic fringing and there were some other lens-specific corrections that ACR would have applied -- had I made sure I took the step of opening the original RAW in ACR6.7 (I don't yet use PS6). But the image had come from Lightroom and opened not as a smart object.
When I bring an image over from Lightroom I can choose to strat from scratch, throwing out/ignoring editing done in Lightroom. But this isn't the same as opening from RAW. I know there is a way to transfer from LR to PS in which the transfer opens the image in ACR, but I was past that stage. I think in the scenario you suggest -- opening the embedded TIFF in ACR -- would not give access to those corrections I needed as the tiff is no longer the RAW.
Again, thank you for the detailed tips. Noted and stored for the future.
In Lightroom, right-click on a photo and pick Edit In > Open as Smart Object in Photoshop. The created SO will contain your Lightroom processing.
The SO will be in a new document window of Ps. You can duplicate/drag that SO layer to the doc that you've been working in.
Double-clicking the SO will open it in ACR if you want to process it further.
Yes I know you current issue that is why I included the Russell Brown Script that is the only option you have for you did not have Lightroom open the RAW file as a smat object.
If lightroom had opened the RAW file as smart object you could olpen the object in ACR not lightroom develop module and adjust your Lighrroom develop module settings using ACR RAW interface from Photoshop.
Yes I know you current issue that is why I included the Russell Brown Script that is the only option you have ...
JJ, that's not the only option. I gave another option. Jonathan can go back to Lightroom, select his photo again and send it to Photoshop as a Smart Object instead of an image this time. The SO can replace the previous image at the bottom of the stack in the Photoshop document in which layers were added.
Yes he can do that but he will lose any changese made to the background layer the Lightroom opened in Photoshop the first time. If he made no changes he can use Lightroom and have it open the raw file in Photoshop as an object and then in Photoshop drag the smart object layer to his open document. If he made changes to the background he would I think be better off converting his changed background to an embedded Tiff in a smart object layer and opening the tiff it in ACR.
There is no question the best thing would have been to open the RAW file as a object in the first place. But then the would be no discussion,,,
On a shoot again today so have not had a chance to test the suggestion, and I am guessing at this point. I will test this by following your workflow, carefully, a day or two after shoots calm down.
Thanks, again… not ignoring the help.
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