Premiere Pro CS3 on Windows 8 Enterprise - File Format Not Supported

[MoonKlash]

Hi guys,

Some time ago I installed the Adobe Master Collection CS3 on the Windows 8 Release Preview. I had a number of problems and gave up, however as the final version of Windows 8 is now available as a 90 day trial I thought I'd try again. I know this isn't supported but I'd like to upgrade from Windows 7 to 8 and I can't afford to upgrade Master Collection, so I figured I'd see how far I can get.

• So, I've made a clean install of Windows 8. I've put iTunes and QuickTime on it. I've not installed any Codecs (except those that would come with these).
• I've opened Premiere Pro CS3 and tried an old project file. It opened but insisted a large number of media files were offline.
• I tried opening the files in Windows - they run okay.
• I made a new project file in Premiere and tried to import, but received:

These are files that previously imported correctly under Windows 7. They're ones I encoded into H.264 using MPEG_StreamClip. File details:

So it looks like the codec is missing, is that the problem? I'm a bit unconvinced as I can run the videos in Windows. Is there a codec I should try?

I've installed Windows 8 on a partition so I'm happy to play around with this providing I can still deactivate the Master Collection at the end. I'm going to be away for a couple of days next week so apologies in advance if I don't answer straight away 🙂

Stu.

Message was edited by: Stuart Clark (images reinstated)

[John T Smith]

Since you have Quicktime installed, your MOV file "should" open

Are you using any compatibility settings to run that "old" CS3 on the "new" Win8?

Go to http://search.microsoft.com/search.aspx?mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US and search for Win8 compatibility settings

[MoonKlash]

Ah no - that’s a very good point, I wasn’t.

Just cooking ATM but I’ll try that over the weekend and see what happens. It’s very strange as the movie does open in other programs, it’s just Premiere that doesn’t appear to like it.

Sent from Windows Mail

[MoonKlash]

Thanks Jim, Jon,

I turned on Windows XP SP3 Compatability Settings and set it to run as Administrator - that appears to have done the trick! Thanks for the suggestion 🙂

EDIT: Having said that I set Premiere opening an old project file 30 mins ago and it hasn't managed it yet :-S

Message was edited by: Stuart Clark

[Guest]

exactly what i did......set it to run as administrator and also set the compatibility mode to "windows XP (service Pack 3) "

[Jim_Simon]

I've got the CS6 suite running just fine under the Release Preview.  No compatibility adjustments were required.

The larger issue may be that H.264 in an MOV wrapper is a fairly new format used mostly by DSLR's, support for which wasn't really added to PP until CS5.

[MoonKlash]

Very quick update for you, however I tried opening a couple of project files from earlier projects. These seemed to hang forever.There were a lot of H.264 .mov's.

I'd expect these to work as they run in Premiere Pro CS3 on Windows 7. It's possible these aren't the cause, and that it's a different asset - are there any logs recorded in Premiere Pro CS3 that would indicate what asset may be causing it to hang?

[MoonKlash]

Tried leaving it open over night. It just hangs on the Load Project screen 😞

[John T Smith]

Can you create a new project and either (1) import the old project [sometimes will "fix" a corrupted project] or (2) just work with the new project, importing the video files?

When I still had CS3 I never worked with anything other than DV AVI video, so I really can't help with the files you have

[MoonKlash]

Hi John,

It hadn't occured to me to create a new project file and import the old one into it - I guess I do that as if it were any other asset? I'll certainly give that a shot. 

I won't try to recreate the old movie from scratch because it's quite complicated (for me, anyway!) and it's finished. I'm just making sure both new projects and old will run fine if I upgrade to Windows 8 in October, so this is more of a test before I upgrade than anything else.

I only realised yesterday that CS3 wouldn't have all of the patches applied (I believe that because this is an old version they don't update automatically). I downloaded and installed all the patches from Adobe yesterday before trying to open the file in the screenshot above but alas, no change 😞

I need to research this, but I'm really hoping Premiere has some kind of error log hidden somewhere. If I can identify what file it's struggling with I'll be one step closer to finding out why it's doing this under 8 when it didn't under 7.

[the_wine_snob]

Stuart,

It hadn't occured to me to create a new project file and import the old one into it - I guess I do that as if it were any other asset? I'll certainly give that a shot.

You are correct - it's just like Importing an Asset, with two little caveats (that I can think of):

• The Project will Import with a full Bin structure, so you might need to twirl-open some of the Bins, to find the Sequences.

• Initially, the Sequences should appear in those Bins, and all you need to do is Dbl-click on them in the Project Panel, to open them as Timelines.

Good luck, and hope that it works for you.

Hunt

[MoonKlash]

Hi everyone,

Over the weekend I tried:

• Importing the earlier project file (No change)
• Renaming the earlier cache folder where all the preview files were located in case it's the previews Premiere is struggling with.

Unfortunately there's no change and the program still hangs.

I don't know if it's relevant but in Task Manager and Resource Manager, there's still CPU activity and the program isn't listed as hanging, however it can evidently run for days without managing to open the files.

Another thing occurs to me (I'm just thinking this through so I may be well off the mark here): Am I right in thinking the H.264 codec is the same as used in Blu-Ray? In Windows 7 there was native support for Blu-Ray and DVD and the codecs were included. in Windows 8 Enterprise this isn't the case so could that be the issue here? Maybe there's a codec I should install?

However I guess that theory could be completely wrong as I can still open the source H.264 encoded files and I don't think these codecs were included in XP, which is obviously the OS CS3 was designed for.

Any suggestions?

My next tests will be to start a new project file. All assets including movies, audio, Photoshop PSDs are stored in relevant subfolders so I'll try importing each folder one by one into a new project and see which folder causes the software to hang.

[MoonKlash]

Just found something out which may be relevant.

It ocurred to me that, since I only accessed some folders via Windows File Explorer when I was using Windows 7, 8 may not have permission to access all those folders (for example, this message):

I decided to go a-clicking through all my project folders, and suddenly I noticed there were preview folders created when Premiere tried to open the project:

Under Windows 7, to help me manage disc space easily I set Premiere to use a seperate drive for scratch, media etc, which means the folders of pointed arrows to above must have been created under my Windows 8 installation. I'd forgotten to apply these settings in Windows 8. I opened Premiere, created a new file so I could access the settings. I checked Premiere and the file paths look a bit messed up:

I corrected these:

I cleaned the Media cache (which points to C so I'm guessing it should be okay):

- And now I've tried opening the file again. No change so far though but I'll leave it running 😞

Any other ideas?

[MoonKlash]

Okay, the file froze at the same point.

I tried opening another file which had footage made on the same camera.

This froze at the same point - but then managed to move on and opened the file.

So I'm not sure where this leaves me - does that mean the problem must be with a particular asset? Still not sure why this opens some projects but not others.

[MoonKlash]

Although if it were just an asset, would Premiere simply report an error and skip it? The strange thing is that even though it can hang for days, there's still activity showing in task manager and the system resource screen.

Sorry for all the waffle, I'm just trying to log all my tests for my benefit and for anyone else that has the same issue in the future.

[MoonKlash]

Tested assets:

• Audio imported okay
• PSDs imported okay
• JPG photographs imported okay
• But H.264 encoded .mov files are taking hours to import even a small percentage (but appear to still be running).

Initial conclusions: something in Windows 8 is making it hard, but not impossible, for Premiere CS3 to import my movie files.

[MoonKlash]

Today I was more careful with my imports and discovered that it isn't the H.264 encoded files that are the problem - it's a batch of 200 motion-jpg encoded .mov's I'd forgotten about! When Premiere tries to import these it causes Premiere to mess up - CPU activity continues but nothing really moves forward.

At least now I know this I can convert these to a different format, although I have to say I'm surprised as I've not heard of Premiere CS3 having issues with motion jpeg before!

[John T Smith]

Some saved links... and which MJPEG codec do you have installed?

1st link is an article by Bill Hunt that may help

MJPEG http://forums.adobe.com/thread/730396

- problems with Samsung codec http://forums.adobe.com/thread/699493

- and Fuji http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1015922

[MoonKlash]

Ah interesting - thanks John! I've just logged on to my home PC and taken a look. Wasn't sure of the best way to check so I've loaded Windows Media Player, gone to Help => About and taken the following from the "Technical Support Information" link:

I can't see it listed - I've not installed anything specifically for this (but I don't think I had to under Windows 7). It is (from memory) a Fujifilm FinePix S5200 so you may already have supplied the answer in the Fuji link - I'll check it out!

[MoonKlash]

Here's what I do know though:

• Files play back okay in Windows Media Player and edit without problem in Windows 7.
• Under Windows 8 Premiere Pro CS3 stuggles to imort them although no crash is reported and the task manager shows CPU activity.
• They're AVI Motion JPEGs from a Fuji Finepix s5200 (not exactly great for video, yeah I know)
• GSpot indicates the codecs are installed (but maybe needs a better codec?)
• Here's the GSpot analysis:

So I may need to try a different codec if I want to import them straight into Premiere without any conversion. Alternatively I could use MPEG StreamClip to convert them to H.264 mov's which would be consistent with my other movie files.

[MoonKlash]

Installed codecs (from gspot)

¤	Video	AVI Decompressor	{CF49D4E0-1115-11CE-B03A-0020AF0BA770}	0x00600000	quartz.dll
-
ACM	FmtTag: 0x0031	Microsoft GSM 6.10 Audio CODEC for MSACM	msacm.msgsm610	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> msgsm32.acm
ACM	FmtTag: 0x0006	Microsoft CCITT G.711 (A-Law and u-Law) CODEC for MSACM	msacm.msg711	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> msg711.acm
ACM	FmtTag: 0x0007	Microsoft CCITT G.711 (A-Law and u-Law) CODEC for MSACM	msacm.msg711	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> msg711.acm
ACM	FmtTag: 0x0055	MPEG Layer-3 Audio Codec for MSACM	msacm.l3acm	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> l3codeca.acm
ACM	FmtTag: 0x0011	IMA ADPCM CODEC for MSACM	msacm.imaadpcm	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> imaadp32.acm
ACM	FmtTag: 0x0002	Microsoft ADPCM CODEC for MSACM	msacm.msadpcm	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> msadp32.acm
ACM	FmtTag: 0x028e	Messenger Audio Codec	msacm.siren	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> sirenacm.dll
DMO	MP4S	Mpeg4s Decoder DMO	{2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}	0x00800001	qasf.dll --> mp4sdecd.dll
DMO	MSS1	WMV Screen decoder DMO	{7BAFB3B1-D8F4-4279-9253-27DA423108DE}	0x00000000	qasf.dll --> wmvsdecd.dll
DMO	WMV1	WMVideo Decoder DMO	{82D353DF-90BD-4382-8BC2-3F6192B76E34}	0x00800001	qasf.dll --> wmvdecod.dll
DMO		QuickTime Video Decoder Filter	{AC5E8A54-357A-4E28-AD0E-6041FAABD3D5}	0x00000000	qasf.dll --> mtw178.ddc
DMO	MP43	Mpeg43 Decoder DMO	{CBA9E78B-49A3-49EA-93D4-6BCBA8C4DE07}	0x00800001	qasf.dll --> mp43decd.dll
DMO	MPG4	Mpeg4 Decoder DMO	{F371728A-6052-4D47-827C-D039335DFE0A}	0x00800001	qasf.dll --> mpg4decd.dll
DMO		QuickTime Audio Decoder Filter	{007474E7-1A02-46E1-AF4C-FD819A1E8D15}	0x00000000	qasf.dll --> gzHF330.ddc
DMO	FmtTag: 0x0160	WMAudio Decoder DMO	{2EEB4ADF-4578-4D10-BCA7-BB955F56320A}	0x00800800	qasf.dll --> WMADMOD.DLL
DMO	WMAudioV9	WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO	{5210F8E4-B0BB-47C3-A8D9-7B2282CC79ED}	0x00000000	qasf.dll --> WMADMOD.DLL
DMO	WMSP1	WMSpeech Decoder DMO	{874131CB-4ECC-443B-8948-746B89595D20}	0x00000000	qasf.dll --> WMSPDMOD.DLL
DMO	FmtTag: 0x0055	MP3 Decoder DMO	{BBEEA841-0A63-4F52-A7AB-A9B3A84ED38A}	0x00000000	qasf.dll --> mp3dmod.dll
DSH	MPEG1Packet	MPEG Video Decoder	{FEB50740-7BEF-11CE-9BD9-0000E202599C}	0x40000001	quartz.dll
DSH	MPEG1Packet	MPEG Audio Decoder	{4A2286E0-7BEF-11CE-9BD9-0000E202599C}	0x03680001	quartz.dll
DSH	FmtTag: 0x0160	WMAudio Decoder DMO	{2EEB4ADF-4578-4D10-BCA7-BB955F56320A}	0x00800800	WMADMOD.DLL
DSH	MP4S	Mpeg4s Decoder DMO	{2A11BAE2-FE6E-4249-864B-9E9ED6E8DBC2}	0x00800001	mp4sdecd.dll
DSH	WMV1	WMVideo Decoder DMO	{82D353DF-90BD-4382-8BC2-3F6192B76E34}	0x00800001	wmvdecod.dll
DSH	MP43	Mpeg43 Decoder DMO	{CBA9E78B-49A3-49EA-93D4-6BCBA8C4DE07}	0x00800001	mp43decd.dll
DSH	MPG4	Mpeg4 Decoder DMO	{F371728A-6052-4D47-827C-D039335DFE0A}	0x00800001	mpg4decd.dll
DSH	FmtTag: 0x00ff	DivX AAC Decoder	{2CCC9657-58A9-41AC-AA39-451202B98FAF}	0x00800000	daac.ax
DSH	FmtTag: 0x00ff	CoreAAC Audio Decoder	{6AC7C19E-8CA0-4E3D-9A9F-2881DE29E0AC}	0x00800000	CoreAAC.ax
DSH	XVID	DivX H.264 Decoder	{6F513D27-97C3-453C-87FE-B24AE50B1601}	0x00800000	DivXDecH264.ax
DSH	XVID	DivX Decoder Filter	{78766964-0000-0010-8000-00AA00389B71}	0x00800000	DivXDec.ax
DSH	DVSD	DV Video Decoder	{B1B77C00-C3E4-11CF-AF79-00AA00B67A42}	0x00800000	qdv.dll
DSH	FmtTag: 0x0055	DScaler Audio Decoder	{D2CA75C2-05A1-4915-88A8-D433F876D186}	0x00800000	MpegAudio.dll
DSH	MPEG2_VIDEO	DScaler Mpeg2 Video Decoder	{F8904F1F-0371-4471-8866-90E6281ABDB6}	0x00800000	MpegVideo.dll
DSH	WMAudioV9	WMAPro over S/PDIF DMO	{5210F8E4-B0BB-47C3-A8D9-7B2282CC79ED}	0x00600800	WMADMOD.DLL
DSH	WMSP1	WMSpeech Decoder DMO	{874131CB-4ECC-443B-8948-746B89595D20}	0x00600800	WMSPDMOD.DLL
DSH	FmtTag: 0x0055	MP3 Decoder DMO	{BBEEA841-0A63-4F52-A7AB-A9B3A84ED38A}	0x00600800	mp3dmod.dll
DSH	MSS1	WMV Screen decoder DMO	{7BAFB3B1-D8F4-4279-9253-27DA423108DE}	0x00600800	wmvsdecd.dll
DSH	IYUV	WMVideo8 Encoder DMO	{7E320092-596A-41B2-BBEB-175D10504EB6}	0x00600800	wmvxencd.dll
DSH	IYUV	WMVideo9 Encoder DMO	{D23B90D0-144F-46BD-841D-59E4EB19DC59}	0x00600800	wmvencod.dll
DSH	RGB24	MSScreen 9 encoder DMO	{F7FFE0A0-A4F5-44B5-949E-15ED2BC66F9D}	0x00600800	wmvsencd.dll
DSH	PCM	WM Speech Encoder DMO	{1F1F4E1A-2252-4063-84BB-EEE75F8856D5}	0x00600800	WMSPDMOE.DLL
DSH	PCM	WMAudio Encoder DMO	{70F598E9-F4AB-495A-99E2-A7C4D3D89ABF}	0x00600800	WMADMOE.DLL
DSH	MJPG	AVI Draw	{A888DF60-1E90-11CF-AC98-00AA004C0FA9}	0x00600064	quartz.dll
DSH	AUXLine21Data	Line 21 Decoder 2	{E4206432-01A1-4BEE-B3E1-3702C8EDC574}	0x00600002	quartz.dll
DSH		BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter	{FC772AB0-0C7F-11D3-8FF2-00A0C9224CF4}	0x00600000	psisrndr.ax
DSH		MPEG-2 Sections and Tables	{C666E115-BB62-4027-A113-82D643FE2D99}	0x00600000	Mpeg2Data.ax
DSH	VPVideo	Video Port Manager	{6F26A6CD-967B-47FD-874A-7AED2C9D25A2}	0x00600000	quartz.dll
DSH	Avi	AVI Splitter	{1B544C20-FD0B-11CE-8C63-00AA0044B51E}	0x00600000	quartz.dll
DSH	FmtTag: 0x00ff	"MainConcept (Adobe2) AAC Decoder"	{214CD0D1-FC06-41B1-8BB8-84DA4CFB17D9}	0x00600000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2daac.ax"
DSH	DOLBY_AC3	AC3 Parser Filter	{280A3020-86CF-11D1-ABE6-00A0C905F375}	0x00600000	mpg2splt.ax
DSH	MJPG	MJPEG Decompressor	{301056D0-6DFF-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}	0x00600000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	ACM Wrapper	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00600000	quartz.dll
DSH	AUXLine21Data	Line 21 Decoder	{6E8D4A20-310C-11D0-B79A-00AA003767A7}	0x00600000	qdvd.dll
DSH	VPVBI	VBI Surface Allocator	{814B9800-1C88-11D1-BAD9-00609744111A}	0x00600000	vbisurf.ax
DSH	MPEG2_TRANSPORT	MPEG-2 Demultiplexer	{AFB6C280-2C41-11D3-8A60-0000F81E0E4A}	0x00600000	mpg2splt.ax
DSH	Stream	RealMedia Splitter	{E21BE468-5C18-43EB-B0CC-DB93A847D769}	0x00600000	RealMediaSplitter.ax
DSH	Video	"MainConcept (Adobe2) H.264/AVC Decoder"	{FF890B41-A4C5-4B19-87CF-65D86EC12F1C}	0x00600000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2dsh264.ax"
DSH	Audio	PBDA DTFilter	{09144FD6-BB29-11DB-96F1-005056C00008}	0x00600000	CPFilters.dll
DSH	Audio	Decrypt/Tag	{C4C4C4F2-0049-4E2B-98FB-9537F6CE516D}	0x00600000	EncDec.dll
DSH	MPEG1System	MPEG-I Stream Splitter	{336475D0-942A-11CE-A870-00AA002FEAB5}	0x00600000	quartz.dll
DSH	DVSD	DV Splitter	{4EB31670-9FC6-11CF-AF6E-00AA00B67A42}	0x00600000	qdv.dll
DSH	VBI	VBI Codec	{370A1D5D-DDEB-418C-81CD-189E0D4FA443}	0x00600000	VBICodec.ax
DSH	MPEG2_PROGRAM	MPEG-2 Splitter	{3AE86B20-7BE8-11D1-ABE6-00A0C905F375}	0x005fffff	mpg2splt.ax
DSH	MPEG1Packet	"MainConcept (Adobe2) MPEG Audio Decoder"	{25AD5730-4DE0-4CF8-952A-2AEF53AC4321}	0x005fffff	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2mcdsmpeg.ax"
DSH	MPEG1Packet	"MainConcept (Adobe2) MPEG Video Decoder"	{25AD5740-4DE0-4CF8-952A-2AEF53AC4321}	0x005fffff	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2mcdsmpeg.ax"
DSH	DOLBY_AC3	Microsoft DTV-DVD Audio Decoder	{E1F1A0B8-BEEE-490D-BA7C-066C40B5E2B9}	0x005fffff	msmpeg2adec.dll
DSH	MPEG1System	"MainConcept (Adobe2) MPEG Splitter"	{25AD5720-4DE0-4CF8-952A-2AEF53AC4321}	0x005fffff	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2mcspmpeg.ax"
DSH	MPEG2_VIDEO	Microsoft DTV-DVD Video Decoder	{212690FB-83E5-4526-8FD7-74478B7939CD}	0x005fffff	msmpeg2vdec.dll
DSH	RGB8	Color Space Converter	{1643E180-90F5-11CE-97D5-00AA0055595A}	0x00400001	quartz.dll
DSH	RGB8	VGA 16 Color Ditherer	{1DA08500-9EDC-11CF-BC10-00AA00AC74F6}	0x00400000	quartz.dll
DSH	RV20	RealVideo Decoder	{238D0F23-5DC9-45A6-9BE2-666160C324DD}	0x00400000	RealMediaSplitter.ax
DSH	Stream	SAMI (CC) Parser	{33FACFE0-A9BE-11D0-A520-00A0D10129C0}	0x00400000	quartz.dll
DSH	MPEG1Audio	AAC Parser	{3C78B8E2-6C4D-11D1-AEE2-0000F7754B98}	0x00400000	aac_parser.ax
DSH	14_4	RealAudio Decoder	{941A4793-A705-4312-8DFC-C11CA05F397E}	0x00400000	RealMediaSplitter.ax
DSH	WAVE	Wave Parser	{D51BD5A1-7548-11CF-A520-0080C77EF58A}	0x00400000	quartz.dll
DSH	Midi	MIDI Parser	{D51BD5A2-7548-11CF-A520-0080C77EF58A}	0x00400000	quartz.dll
DSH	Stream	Multi-file Parser	{D51BD5A3-7548-11CF-A520-0080C77EF58A}	0x00400000	quartz.dll
DSH	File	File stream renderer	{D51BD5A5-7548-11CF-A520-0080C77EF58A}	0x00400000	quartz.dll
DSH	DVSD	WMT Virtual Renderer	{080D588E-9756-455B-BBDA-E8BCF9EC7769}	0x00200000	WLXVAFilt.dll
DSH		File Writer	{781C76F5-5F6B-4F84-A987-FE6063313925}	0x00200000	WLXVAFilt.dll
DSH		File writer	{8596E5F0-0DA5-11D0-BD21-00A0C911CE86}	0x00200000	qcap.dll
DSH	Avi	AVI Mux	{E2510970-F137-11CE-8B67-00AA00A3F1A6}	0x00200000	qcap.dll
DSH	Video	"MainConcept (Adobe2) MPEG Encoder"	{25AD5750-4DE0-4CF8-952A-2AEF53AC4321}	0x00200000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2mcesmpeg.ax"
DSH	YUY2	Microsoft MPEG-2 Encoder	{5F5AFF4A-2F7F-4279-88C2-CD88EB39D144}	0x00200000	msmpeg2enc.dll
DSH	YV12	"MainConcept (Adobe2) H.264 Encoder"	{FF890B51-A4C5-4B19-87CF-65D86EC12F1C}	0x00200000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2esh264.ax"
DSH	Video	WMT VIH2 Fix	{080D0809-7456-4FBC-8493-0D2BF99EA48C}	0x00200000	WLXVAFilt.dll
DSH	Video	Record Queue	{080D11FB-A303-4514-88FE-7DDA4DFE9E4B}	0x00200000	WLXVAFilt.dll
DSH	Video	WMT Switch Filter	{080D1473-5FEA-4029-875C-53EE96549ACC}	0x00200000	WLXVAFilt.dll
DSH	Video	WMT DV Extract	{080D5974-4B61-458B-921B-17628E423713}	0x00200000	WLXVAFilt.dll
DSH	Video	WMT Sample Information Filter	{080DFEE8-4097-4BAB-B7A7-1B11F4958213}	0x00200000	WLXVAFilt.dll
DSH	RGB24	"MainConcept (Adobe2) MPEG Video Encoder"	{25AD5760-4DE0-4CF8-952A-2AEF53AC4321}	0x00200000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2mcevmpeg.ax"
DSH	PCM	"MainConcept (Adobe2) MPEG Audio Encoder"	{25AD5770-4DE0-4CF8-952A-2AEF53AC4321}	0x00200000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2mceampeg.ax"
DSH	MPEG1Video	"MainConcept (Adobe2) MPEG Multiplexer"	{25AD5780-4DE0-4CF8-952A-2AEF53AC4321}	0x00200000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2mcmuxmpeg.ax"
DSH	YUY2	Microsoft MPEG-2 Video Encoder	{42150CD9-CA9A-4EA5-9939-30EE037F6E74}	0x00200000	msmpeg2enc.dll
DSH	Video	Overlay Mixer2	{A0025E90-E45B-11D1-ABE9-00A0C905F375}	0x00200000	qdvd.dll
DSH	PCM	Microsoft MPEG-2 Audio Encoder	{ACD453BC-C58A-44D1-BBF5-BFB325BE2D78}	0x00200000	msmpeg2enc.dll
DSH	TELETEXT	WST Pager	{AD6C8934-F31B-4F43-B5E4-0541C1452F6F}	0x00200000	WSTPager.ax
DSH		SampleGrabber	{C1F400A0-3F08-11D3-9F0B-006008039E37}	0x00200000	qedit.dll
DSH	PCM	Microsoft AC3 Encoder	{C6B400E2-20A7-4E58-A2FE-24619682CE6C}	0x00200000	msac3enc.dll
DSH		Infinite Pin Tee Filter	{F8388A40-D5BB-11D0-BE5A-0080C706568E}	0x00200000	qcap.dll
DSH	RGB24	"MainConcept (Adobe2) H.264/AVC Video Encoder"	{FF890B61-A4C5-4B19-87CF-65D86EC12F1C}	0x00200000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2evh264.ax"
DSH	Audio	IMA ADPCM	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	PCM	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	Microsoft ADPCM	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	GSM 6.10	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	Messenger Audio Codec	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	CCITT A-Law	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	CCITT u-Law	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Audio	MPEG Layer-3	{6A08CF80-0E18-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
DSH	Video	Smart Tee	{CC58E280-8AA1-11D1-B3F1-00AA003761C5}	0x00200000	qcap.dll
DSH		Closed Captions Analysis Filter	{3D07A539-35CA-447C-9B05-8D85CE924F9E}	0x00200000	cca.dll
DSH	PCM	"MainConcept (Adobe2) AAC Encoder"	{866DFE40-5582-4FA6-B4BC-665781A007E6}	0x00100000	** File Missing: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Adobe Premiere Pro CS3\ad2eaac.ax"
REND	ScriptCommand	Internal Script Command Renderer	{48025243-2D39-11CE-875D-00608CB78066}	0x00800001	quartz.dll
REND	Video	Video Renderer	{6BC1CFFA-8FC1-4261-AC22-CFB4CC38DB50}	0x00800001	quartz.dll
REND	PCM	Default DirectSound Device	{79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00800000	quartz.dll
REND	Midi	Default MidiOut Device	{07B65360-C445-11CE-AFDE-00AA006C14F4}	0x00800000	quartz.dll
REND	Video	Video Renderer	{70E102B0-5556-11CE-97C0-00AA0055595A}	0x00400000	quartz.dll
REND	Audio	Default WaveOut Device	{E30629D1-27E5-11CE-875D-00608CB78066}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
REND	PCM	DirectSound: Remote Audio	{79376820-07D0-11CF-A24D-0020AFD79767}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
REND	Video	Video Mixing Renderer 9	{51B4ABF3-748F-4E3B-A276-C828330E926A}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
REND		Null Renderer	{C1F400A4-3F08-11D3-9F0B-006008039E37}	0x00200000	qedit.dll
REND	Video	Enhanced Video Renderer	{FA10746C-9B63-4B6C-BC49-FC300EA5F256}	0x00200000	evr.dll
REND	Midi	Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth	{07B65360-C445-11CE-AFDE-00AA006C14F4}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
REND	Audio	Remote Audio	{E30629D1-27E5-11CE-875D-00608CB78066}	0x00200000	quartz.dll
VFW	CVID	Cinepak Codec by Radius	vidc.cvid	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> iccvid.dll
VFW	DIVX	DivX 6.9.2 Codec (2 Logical CPUs)	vidc.divx	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> DivX.dll
VFW	I420	Intel IYUV codec	vidc.i420	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> iyuv_32.dll
VFW	IYUV	Intel IYUV codec	vidc.iyuv	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> iyuv_32.dll
VFW	MRLE	Microsoft RLE	vidc.mrle	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> msrle32.dll
VFW	MSVC	Microsoft Video 1	vidc.msvc	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> msvidc32.dll
VFW	YV12	DivX 6.9.2 YV12 Decoder	vidc.yv12	0x00200000	quartz.dll --> DivX.dll

[MoonKlash]

So the mjpeg codecs installed (according to gspot and if I'm understanding this correctly) are:

Video

AVI Decompressor

{CF49D4E0-1115-11CE-B03A-0020AF0BA770}

0x00600000

quart

SH

MJPG

AVI Draw

{A888DF60-1E90-11CF-AC98-00AA004C0FA9}

0x00600064

quartz.dll

DSH

MJPG

MJPEG Decompressor

{301056D0-6DFF-11D2-9EEB-006008039E37}

0x00600000

quartz.dll

[MoonKlash]

Thanks John - an incredibly helpful response with some fantastic links.

It looks likely now, having read those threads, that although I have a mjpeg codec installed, it's not the mjpeg codec I need. I'll have a dig around later when I get home and see if I can find something with a correct Fuji codec on it. Have to admit I'm surprised it's these that are causing the problem (I've never installed any Fuji software on my Windows 7 PC) but if not, I don't expect this should necessarilly stop an upgrade to Windows 8 as I can always convert the files.

Thanks for your help - I'll report back when I've run some more tests!

[the_wine_snob]

Stuart,

One problem with MJPEG is that many camera mfgrs. love to tweak it.

Often, the generic MJPED CODEC's, like Lead's, or MainConcept's, will work just fine. Other times, they do not, or do not work fully. I always recommend that one try to get, and install, the exact version of MJPEG, used by a particular camera, if the generics do now function.

Unfortunately, like the individual MJPEG CODEC's themselves, the installation routine can differ.

In some cases, there is a separate installer for the CODEC, but often, one needs to install the camera's driver to get the exact CODEC, and more often, they have to install the camera's editing, or cataloging utility/utilities, to get the CODEC properly installed. I am a fan of the first method, but few camera mfgrs. seem enamored with that - simple, effective, and does not require additional software - but they seldom go that route.

I feel that users should be contacting Nikon, Lumix, et al, to request a straight CODEC installation on the utilities disc, but maybe that is just me. Having to install a bunch of utilities, just to get a CODEC is NOT the way that I like things, but could be that "lone voice in the wilderness."

Good luck,

Hunt

[MoonKlash]

Hi Bill,

Thank you (and John) for all the help you've given - don't know where I'd be without the advice in these forums!

I've hunted through Fujifilm.co.uk and, frustratingly they don't offer the codec or any software drivers that explicitly state they're for my camera. Like you say, if all the manufacturers didn't tweek (or offered obvious codec downloads if they did) life would be far far easier! I'm downloading the items they have available and hoping they'll have the codec bundled - if not I'll get in touch with their tech support 🙂

There's one thing I keep wondering about - I'm 75% certain I didn't install any additional software or codecs under Windows 7, where Premiere could open these files without issue. Is mjpeg a codec that usually comes bundled in Windows 7? I'm wondering if it's actually Microsoft who have changed something in Windows 8 - can't say for sure though as it is possible I installed something that had the codec bundled on 7 and have just forgotten about it :-S

If I get time later I'll try rebooting into 7 (I've got the drive partitioned with 7 on one and the 8 demo on another) and see what codecs are loaded. If I can find the one I was using in 7 then that may help me to track down what I need 🙂

On the plus side though: Premiere CS3 works under Windows 8! I just hope that other items in the master collection suite aren't as complicated! Although in fairness I only ever really used Dreamweaver, Photoshop and Premiere anyway.....