Hi! I know there are a ton of forums on here about what laptops to get for Premiere. I've been reading quite a few of them, and it looks like Sager is the way to go on this one. I'm looking to get a laptop for the Adobe Production Premium package, but I'm not a big computer person, so I'm not exactly sure what I need to buy. I found this laptop, and though I have no idea what I'm reading, it seems like it fits most of the specifications. Could someone please verify this for me?
This is the laptop: http://www.sagernotebook.com/index.php?page=product_customed&model_nam e=NP6175
Could anyone tell me if I'm way off, or what I need to select for it to work best?
Have you considered buying a desktop instead? Or is this laptop like a secondary system?
The reason I'm bringing this up is because you'll have to spend much less money to build a good editing system if you go with a desktop.
1st, what kind of video do you plan to edit?
-what you link to would only be "minimally" OK for SD (standard definition) not HD
2nd, what I would add to the order at your link, if I were buying a laptop
-change CPU to at least the i7-3610QM
-increase ram from 8 to 16 Gig
-add 2nd hard drive for your video files
-500GB 7200rpm SATA2 Secondary Hard Disk Drive [+$80.00]
Final price $1,259
I'll need to take it to school regularly, so I'll have to get a laptop. Although, if it is a lot cheaper to get a desktop, I could go with that instead. How much of a difference are you talking about?
Ideal carries a price tag and from your remarks even more expensive is not an option. This is a very good laptop system for the price. If you spend less, you have to make compomises, if you spend more, you get better performance (better CPU, GPU, more memory etc.).
>cheaper with ideal features
I don't think that is possible... if you make the changes I listed in #3 you will be able to edit HD
Not as fast as a desktop system with a faster CPU and more hard drives, but you will be able to edit HD
If you are going to have a LOT of video, consider a larger 2nd hard drive... up to 1 Terrabyte
Go to the Benchmark http://ppbm5.com/ site and view the rankings for laptops
Also, please do NOT try and edit video with only one hard drive
Trying to use only ONE Hard Drive for Video Editing
You are a music conductor, with a baton that you use to point to various parts of the orchestra... this is like Windows pointing to various parts of the hard drive to do Windows housekeeping or to load program segments for various functions
Now, at the same time and with the same hand... while still using the baton to conduct the orchestra... pick up a bow and play a fiddle... this would be doing something with your video file at the same time as all the other work
You as a person cannot do both at the same time with the same hand
A computer is a LITTLE better, in that it can switch from one kind of task to another very quickly... but not quickly enough for EASY video editing
You need AT LEAST two hard drives (separate drives, never a partition http://forums.adobe.com/thread/650708 for more) with Windows (or Mac OS) and software on your boot drive, and video files on a 2nd drive so the boot drive is not slowed down by trying to do everything
Partition = Crash http://forums.adobe.com/thread/957286
Truthfully, I can't go much higher. I have to ask: What compromises have I made so far? What are the most important things to have in the laptop? Will a desktop be cheaper, and maybe can I get more speed from a desktop at the same price? Thanks in advance for any advice!
In #3 I listed what I would do, to get a MINIMUM laptop to edit HD video... that minimum is for laptop or desktop
Some ideas for a Desktop Video Editing PC
-ADK Kudos http://forums.adobe.com/thread/877201
-more build ideas http://ppbm6.com/Planning.html
-Build it Yourself http://forums.adobe.com/thread/815798
Adobe's MINimums http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html
This message has a really good graphic about requirements
More about Requirements http://forums.adobe.com/thread/618058
Disk Configurations http://forums.adobe.com/thread/878419
.....check out Asus models.....recently, a killer laptop was on sale for $1,399 at tiger Direct. Downside is the risk of dealing with their unacclaimed customer service if anything goes wrong. However, if you visit the PPBM5 benchmark for video editing website, created by Harm and Bill , and select the tab for laptops, you will see my old i7 Asus G73jw sitting at 4 or 5 from the top. You will notice that even the fastest laptop is still two to three times slower than the fastest desktop system.
Decent performance can be had in a laptop if you get :
1. 1920x1080 min. resolution screen.....to see all user interface
2. Minimum 16 GB system ram.....I use CS 5.03 still and that is adequate,but, CS6 demands even more from what people are saying....best with 32GB...
3.NVidia ONLY video card...680m is great....must have more than 1GB memory on that card.....DDR5,too....will enable "Mercury Playback" for performance
4. Min. 2 7200 RPM HDDs.....my laptop scored best with 2 QUALITY onboard SSDs, ( one for OS, programs, pagefile...2nd for all else )
* Newer SSDs with MARVELL controllers...not Sandforce... will handle the " uncompressible" video files without a loss in the write speed.,(best : Plextor Pro, Corsair Pro...cheapest: Crucial M4).
5. Fastest new i7 you can find with hyperthreading...3610 beats the hell out of my 740QM....CPU is king processing the difficult AVCHD and other codecs.
6. fast external ports for connecting a third drive....I use a cheap USB 3 dock to get higher speed connection....eSATA is better,( with proper controller), but, the
newer Thunderbolt connection will be fastest...( not really available yet on Windows laptops.....that I know of!)
7. HDMI out for connecting larger external monitor,or, TV to get full screen monitoring,etc.
8. Expect a high performance laptop to be heavy..... 8-9 lbs. with power brick
9.Expect to be near a 120v outlet.... my battery has never lasted more than an hour and a half.....maybe new laptops are a little better.
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