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The more options the better.

I wasn't calling you ignorant. I was asking a question about wheter you HAD read the information about new features. Since you have done so (and there was no way to know that without you actually telling us), you would fall into the category of users with possibly legitimate gripes. Most old techniques still work as they used to, even if there is also a new way -- the obvious exception being the behavior of overlapping or multiple selected objects.

I don't use a Wacom pen, and that's something else we had no knowlege of, nor you operating system, (though both are probably irrelevant for this discussion). I'm not sure what you mean by "the transformation bounding box doesn't work at all so I want to turn it off." The only thing different that I can think of is that you can now rotate without having to change tools or move to a panel (and you can see the rotation amount in the content grabber if it's turned on). You can continue, as I'm sure you are, to use the rotate tool as you always have instead if you'd rather. In fact, if you want to ratoate around any point other than the center you would need to, though I think it's probably faster to rotate and reposition thant to switch tools and choose a new center of rotation. Of course, you are used to the rotation tool, use the shorcuts for the toolbox (something I've never managed to get comfortable doing in ID) so that may not be true for you. Nonetheless, the abilty to ratote without changing tools shouldn't be interfering with your ability to do it your way. I've not had any difficulty with using a mouse to access corner handles without rotating, so perhaps this is a pen driver issue, or simply a matter of where you position the cursor.

And you can continue to group items and Cmd + Shift drag to resize -- that's the way I used to work, too, but now you don't have to group first to have all the selected objects scale together, which means you can work with objects on different layers more easily (groups must be on the same layer). Perhaps you are unhappy that you can no longer select multiple objects and scale only one while they all remain selected. This change was definitely made at user request and on balance I think it makes sense. Most times I have multple objects selected I don't want to transform only one of them. You may feel otherwise.

As far as "persistent selection" of an item behind another, this takes a while to get used to and to understand the rules that govern how it works. If you are not able to reslect the front object, it means that the selected object is not completely surrounding the one in front that you want to select and you need to click instead on an area that is not overlapping. If the object is completely surrounded it should be selected as soon as you click inside it. Does this cause me to stumple on occasion and lose a beat? You bet. But on balance I lose a lot less time to that than I used to waste having to change the zoom, then Ctrl (I'm on Windows) Click back down through a stack to reselect the object I wanted to move, then grab it's center point so I could move it.

And you don't want to know what I charge my clients. It's probably a lot less than you which is why I don't have money for a new printer. My rates haven't changed with the new version (increased productivity is a good argument for raising rates, right?), the clients just get more for the money now.

That problem has been discussed extensively. Please search the forum.

Bob

OK, I'll grant that's a big change, and you certainly have a right to be annoyed if it affects your workflow, but in all seriousness, how badly is it affecting you? How often do you select multiple objects with the intent to modify only one? That's a serious question. Do you select everything and move it a little, make an adjustment to one object, then move again?

I think I mentioned that you can now do things to multiple selections without grouping that used to require it, which I thought was an improvement, and this is sort of the corollary to that change. If you group all those objects, then you can double click one to edit it alone, then double click it again to reselect the group. I don't know if this was a necessary change in order to get other parts of the new selection behavior to work.

I think the bottom line here is that suggested changes are weighed and decisions on implementation are made. Any change is going to make some users unhappy (for example I think they really screwed up the interface going from vertical tabs to horizontal and icons for docked panel groups), but that's life. If a feature could be turned on or off easily without affecting program operation -- like frame edge highlighing -- then there is a good case for making it a preference item or menu choice, keeping in mind that adding everything as a choice can get out of hand, too, but I suspect this just isn't one of those tings taht can be turned on or off. Ever buy a new car and have to learn a new set of controls for running the heater or windshield wipers? Same thing. Annoying, hopefully not fatal, and eventually we adjust.

My only complaint about the rotation feature is its lack of control. It always rotates from the center no matter what the proxy is set at.

Bob

Studio57NL wrote:

 

Adobe has really reunid working with ID for me.

Well, there are other options....

But in my opinion, you're doing things in the wrong order. Your step 3 should either be happening before step 1 or after step 4.

You missed the point. Either resize the frame before copying, or do it after you've moved the whole copied block into position and you won't have to reselect anything.

Well for the moment all I can offer is group the copied frames, double click the one you need to resize, resize it, double click again, move into position and ungroup (if you feel the need). Or go back to CS4. This behavior is not going to change in CS5, and I sincerly doubt it's going to change in a future release, either. Other than you, I haven't seen a single complaint about it, and it will take a LOT of voices to get something like this altered.

You might find this topic ofer at InDesign Secrets of interest: http://indesignsecrets.com/indesign-cs5s-new-bounding-box.php