Well, with only 5 days, before the start of play for the 2012 Ryder Cup, at Medina CC, it's time to start the speculation on who will be paired with whom, and who will play against the other team. Official Ryder Cup Web site: http://www.rydercup.com/usa/
Depending on which format we're talking, I could see Jim Furyk* and Matt Kuchar Michelson has played well with Dustin Johnson, so they could be a good team. Not sure who I would put with Tiger, as he has been so ON/OFF for the last few tournaments. Jason Duffner has fallen off a bit, from his earlier hot streak, but I could see him with Webb Simpson.
Just some thoughts.
* As I was typing, Furyk just hit into the hazard on 17, while tied for the lead for the Fed-X Cup. Bummer!
PS - with mention of golf, this thread might have to undergo moderation.
Looking at the Euro team, Rory McIlroy and Justin Rose are both lighting things up, but am not sure that their games are complimentary enough. Sergio Garcia is making strides, and always plays Ryder/President's Cup matches very well, and Ian Poulter has had his moments, and they are both a tad on the "wild side," so maybe a good pairing? I could see Luke Donald and Graeme McDowell pairing up well to, as both are steady and calm, regardless what happens.
Though I will be pulling for the US team, I really fear this Euro group - this could one of the best Ryder Cups in many years, and the whole thing could come down to the very last putt.
I'm not sure how the US Team could overlook this guy... he's perfect for all those "low lying" chip shots
Now, if they were playing the match in Scottland, where those low shots are so useful, then I think that Davis Love III would have chosen Dorf as a Captain's Pick. At Medina, the higher shots usually rule.
Maybe next time?
Well, it DID come down to the very end. Had Tiger won, rather than halved the match, things would have been different.
We were in and out of about 4 airports, so were seeking out TV's, with the Ryder Cup. Wife had the PGA app on her iPhone, so we got some scores, but nothing beats seeing the matches.
Even with NFL games today, we sneaked in and turned a few United Club TV's to Ryder Cup, when everyone was screaming, and throwing beers, when THEIR teams did something, of which they approved. Imagine their surprise, when the finally looked back, after belly-bumps, and end-zone dances, only to see that the TV had been changed to GOLF!!!!
Sorry that the US did not win, but then the Euros overcame a major hurdle, and played wonderfully. I toast the Euros on a match well-played, and sorry to all those NFL fans - they'll get over it - one day.
I couldnt watch much of it...but did watch some...and kept it on while working on computer etc to keep track on and off.
The main reason I couldnt keep up with it is I have no clue what all that stuff is about...
first ball , alternate shots, team match play, half a what ?, sudden death, Best of green frog etc.
what the ?????
The Match Play aspect of Ryder Cup (President's Cup, and some others) is a bit different from Stoke Play (most tournaments), and comprise some formats, that are not THAT common to the average televised golf viewer. I think that the networks need to do a bit more "education," on each of those formats, to explain exactly what will (and will not) happen in that particular format. There are some nuances, that need to be pointed out.
Even Alternating Shot has some aspects, that might not be readily apparent, unless one watches several holes being played, and notes made on the order, etc. Get into 4-Ball, etc., and things get a bit more involved.
On the last day, the Singles, everything is Match Play, where holes are either won, or halved (tied, say with each player posting a birdie), so those matches are easier to follow exactly. If I shoot a bogey, and you shoot a par, you WIN that hole. A match is either won (one player wins more holes, out of 18, than the other), or halved, where they both post the same number of WON holes (like Woods' match). In the case of Ryder Cup (and most others), a team gets either a 1 (matches won), or a 0.5 (matches halved). At the end of the day, the team with the most points (matches won, or halved), wins the competition.
There is no sudden-death, or other playoff mode. In Ryder Cup, if the entire competition is halved, then the team, which won the previous competition is declared the winner.
Were I the producer, I would have the comentators explain each format, before that round of the competition is played, and maybe again, in the middle too. Few general golfers ever see anything but Stroke Play, where it is the total, final score, that counts. In Match Play, once a player has won a hole, the other player just picks up, and no more strokes are even counted.
Still, and as I had to do about what you did, with the viewing, the Ryder Cup WAS exciting, as it has been for the last several years. Same for the President's Cup (US vs ROW - Rest of World, and not just Europe). Those two alternate years, so the Ryder Cup will be the President's Cup next year - so to speak.
Yeah, having stuff explained by the broadcaster guys would be a big help. I mean , really, what the ?? I see some guy get close to getting his putt in the hole and he bends down, picks up the ball , and walks off the green... and I think, " What happened ? Did you get bored or something ? Where you going ? "
I agree with you. A putt near the hole can be looked at several ways in Match Play. If that player needed to hole the putt, to tie, i.e. halve the hole, but missed, even by a tiny fraction, then the hole is over, and that player lost it. OTOH, if that putt was to win the hole, and the next 0.25" putt is to halve it, then the opposing team might concede that short putt, and move on. Sometimes, one will see longer putts conceded, and shorter putts, NOT conceded, and part of that might be a "head game." It just depends. I have seen it go both ways.
A bit of background, would be a good thing. Match Play is just not something that the casual golfer experiences, or sees that often, and there ARE differences, beyond the various formats.
It would have been cool to have someone on TV just 'explain' what was going to happen ( rules, strategy etc ) ...maybe during that time when people are getting ready to T off and they typically talk about some human interest things or basically just filling in some time.
Well, I suppose I could get maybe one more round of golf in this season, but I doubt I will. I noticed after labor day the owner of local course ( I think all the courses around here did this about the same time ) made a bunch of little holes in the greens and put some stuff down ( seeds with sand ?? )...and putting was pretty terrible on those weird perforated greens. THEN ( the following week or so ) all these ACORNS started raining down from the trees....THEN after that all these LEAVES started flying around all over the place..so you almost needed a broom or rake or something to putt. Now it's worse... more LEAVES...
Plus it's getting a bit chilly at night ...so I will probably cry a few times in the next week or so....but will have to re- start my golf training next Spring.
I agree completely. I feel that too much valuable time is wasted by going into a player's history, whether PGA, or Ryder Cup. Then was then, and because the commentator either knows everything about every player, or has it pop up on their monitor, does not address the "here and now" aspect. I would much rather here about a team's strategy for that match, or, and especially in 4-Ball and Alternate Shot formats, why something is being done, and how that can impact the match, or even the next hole.
Instead we get a cut-away of Sergio Garcia's little dog, his girl friend, and replays of his past TV commercials...