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Streaming using livepkgr Cache issues

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Oct 08, 2013 Oct 08, 2013

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[root@localhost channel777]# ls -l

total 268280

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams      6430 Oct  8 11:59 channel777.bootstrap

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams        16 Oct  8 11:59 channel777.control

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams       434 Oct  8 11:29 channel777.meta

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams 274679787 Oct  8 11:59 channel777Seg1.f4f

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams     14649 Oct  8 11:59 channel777Seg1.f4x

[root@localhost channel777]#

This feild -rw-rw---- 1 ams ams 274679787 Oct  8 11:59 channel777Seg1.f4f really concerns me for 2 reasons

Reason

#1 Why does the file get so large? IE: 14 GB before i restart FMLE and Delete the stream data manually. if i don't delete cache iphone/ipad doesn't play correctly when i restart stream.

#2 When i restart FMLE it doesnt delete cache automaticly like Wowza Server.

Im using AMS Extended 5.0.1 r1076

Any suggestions or comments are welcome

Thanks

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You do not have diskmanagment enabled for the livepkgr application in the /application root folder.   It needs to reside in /applications/livepkgr/events/_definst_/liveevent/Event.xml

Google search for samle Event.xml for the livepkgr application.  You can then slice and dice the segments in an array for configurations to suite your server application.

bluraymakulit2 wrote:

[root@localhost channel777]# ls -l

total 268280

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams      6430 Oct  8 11:59 channel777.bootstrap

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams        16 Oct  8 11:59 channel777.control

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams       434 Oct  8 11:29 channel777.meta

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams 274679787 Oct  8 11:59 channel777Seg1.f4f

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams     14649 Oct  8 11:59 channel777Seg1.f4x

[root@localhost channel777]#

This feild -rw-rw---- 1 ams ams 274679787 Oct  8 11:59 channel777Seg1.f4f really concerns me for 2 reasons

Reason

#1 Why does the file get so large? IE: 14 GB before i restart FMLE and Delete the stream data manually. if i don't delete cache iphone/ipad doesn't play correctly when i restart stream.

#2 When i restart FMLE it doesnt delete cache automaticly like Wowza Server.

Im using AMS Extended 5.0.1 r1076

Any suggestions or comments are welcome

Thanks

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Thank you i will look into that and report back.

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This is what i see in livepkgr Application.xml..

I don't see an option for diskmanagment..

<Application>

    <StreamManager>

        <Live>

            <!-- When enabled, the server will assume that incoming live streams have -->

            <!-- timestamps that are based on an absolute clock, such as a SMPTE time -->

            <!-- signal contained within the encoder's input source.                  -->

            <!-- Default is false.                                                    -->

            <AssumeAbsoluteTime>true</AssumeAbsoluteTime>

            <!-- Allow take over so that encoders that go down (for some reason) and  -->

            <!-- and come back up can immediately republish.                          -->

            <PublishTimeout>0</PublishTimeout>

            <!-- This configuration takes care of situation when the timestamps of    -->

            <!-- certain messages in internally or externally published streams don't -->

            <!-- honor absolute clock contract.                                       -->

            <!-- The possible values are listed below:                                -->

            <!-- 0 disables the work around and is default if the configuration is    -->

            <!--   not present.                                                       -->

            <!-- 1 handles the scenario for externally published streams only         -->

            <!-- 2 handles the scenario for internally published streams only         -->

            <!-- 3 handles both of above                                              -->

            <AdjustForZeroTimeStampMessages>2</AdjustForZeroTimeStampMessages>

            <!-- When enabled along with AssumeAbsoluteTime, the server will          -->

            <!-- assume that incoming live streams will always maintain the           -->

            <!-- timestamps based on an absolute clock across server and stream       -->

            <!-- restarts.                                                            -->

            <!-- Default is true.                                                     -->

            <AdjustForRecordingRollover>false</AdjustForRecordingRollover>

        </Live>

    </StreamManager>

</Application>

Please advise Thanks

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It is not Application.xml

<Event>

  <EventID>liveevent</EventID>

  <Recording>

    <FragmentDuration>4000</FragmentDuration>

    <SegmentDuration>400000</SegmentDuration>

    <DiskManagementDuration>1</DiskManagementDuration>

  </Recording>

<HLS>

    <MediaFileDuration>8000</MediaFileDuration>

    <SlidingWindowLength>0</SlidingWindowLength>

</HLS>

</Event>

It is Event.xml located in the livepkgr instance    /opt/adobe/fms/applications/livepkgr/events/_definst_/liveevent/Event.xml

Obviously you will substitute "livepkgr" to the name of your application.

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Oh ok i see that my DiskManagementDuration>1</DiskManagementDuration>

is set to 3 by default do i need to change it to 1?

what other things will i change?

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No, Diskmanagment is the length in hours that files will be deleted. It will only keep 1 hour of 4 second 400,000kbyte files, in my example.

bluraymakulit2 wrote:

Oh ok i see that my DiskManagementDuration>1</DiskManagementDuration>

is set to 3 by default do i need to change it to 1?

what other things will i change?

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Ok so you said i dont have diskmanagment enabled?

[root@localhost liveevent]# nano Event.xml

<Event>

  <EventID>liveevent</EventID>

  <Recording>

    <FragmentDuration>4000</FragmentDuration>

    <SegmentDuration>400000</SegmentDuration>

    <DiskManagementDuration>3</DiskManagementDuration>

  </Recording>

</Event>

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That is enabled yes.

What also could be skipping the Event.xml

is you are not adding the string identifer in the rtmp sream URI     rtmp://foo.bar/livepkgr/channel777?&adbe-live-event=liveevent

If you don't specificy the string 'liveevent', then it will not use <EventID>liveevent</EventID>

rtmp://foo.bar/livepkgr/channel777?&adbe-live-event=myevent

<EventID>myevent</EventID>

rtmp://foo.bar/livepkgr/channel777

No identifier... Defaults to NULL, no diskmanagment.

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I understand now trying it out

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Oct 09, 2013 Oct 09, 2013

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Im still seeing huge files

[root@localhost channel777]# ls -l

total 10225424

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams      262640 Oct  9 22:39 channel777.bootstrap

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams          16 Oct  9 22:39 channel777.control

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams         434 Oct  9 03:18 channel777.meta

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams 10469977121 Oct  9 22:39 channel777Seg1.f4f

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams      557337 Oct  9 22:39 channel777Seg1.f4x

[root@localhost channel777]#

and 45 second delay on iphone and only 3 second delay on windows

for live stream

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Oct 09, 2013 Oct 09, 2013

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Wow. 10gig.. Big file. 

are you missing the main.far or main.asc file in the /livepkgr root?

What is the full RTMP URI?

bluraymakulit2 wrote:

Im still seeing huge files

[root@localhost channel777]# ls -l

total 10225424

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams      262640 Oct  9 22:39 channel777.bootstrap

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams          16 Oct  9 22:39 channel777.control

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams         434 Oct  9 03:18 channel777.meta

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams 10469977121 Oct  9 22:39 channel777Seg1.f4f

-rw-rw---- 1 ams ams      557337 Oct  9 22:39 channel777Seg1.f4x

[root@localhost channel777]#

and 45 second delay on iphone and only 3 second delay on windows

for live stream

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Oct 10, 2013 Oct 10, 2013

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I have the main.far file in root dir rtmp://foo.foo/livepkgr/channel777?adbe-live-event=carb0n

Sent from my iPhone

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Oct 10, 2013 Oct 10, 2013

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just a quick question was that 45 second delay also in Wowza or just in AMS, I did have on average a 35 second delay with iphones with Wowza, curious if the same will happen in AMS

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Oct 10, 2013 Oct 10, 2013

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I forgot what wowzaserver was sorries

Is that normal for iOS devices tho?

Sent from my iPhone

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Oct 14, 2013 Oct 14, 2013

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disk managment fixed thanks iphone delys still an issue for me 30secs is alot for a live stream

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