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Tab between 2 cross references.

New Here ,
Oct 24, 2013 Oct 24, 2013

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Hello,

I have an issue with the Framemaker coss refernces. When adding a cross reference like one that shows "Chapter no." and "page no." it is displayed with a tab between Chapter and Page eg. Chapter 3      on page 34.

I haven't figured out how to replace the tab with a single space or how to edit the tab size. I looked into the Adobe help and the online forum but haven't found an answer.

Best regards

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Oct 24, 2013 Oct 24, 2013

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In the cross-reference definition, any tab in the construct would be visible as a "\t", and in the body text as a ">" (with text symbol display enabled).

Since Chapter Number is a system variable, there's some chance it's been modified to include a tab, which would appear similarly.

Change the "\t" to a space or non-breaking space ("\ ") as desired.

What the tab does is controlled by the Basic:Tab Stops properties of the paragraph in which the xref is inserted. In general, you don't want tabs in these sorts of Xrefs.

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Oct 24, 2013 Oct 24, 2013

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Hello again,

Thank you for your replay. Unfortunately no \t is visible in  the construct.

I'll attach a screenshot.

Cross reference FM11.png

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Oct 24, 2013 Oct 24, 2013

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Check the construction of variables AbsNum and SeiteNum as well.

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Would you be so kind to elaborate where I can look into  those default variables? When looking in to "variables" I find only costum ones and none auf the default.

I worked my way though the adobe help.pdf but didnt find anything helpful so far.

Best regards

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> ... where I can look into  those default variables?

This presumes FM is in English UI mode:

  1. Click in some Body text.
  2. Special > Variable
  3. Select any System variable, such as "Chapter Number"
    [ Edit Definitions ]
  4. This particular variable is normally Definition:
    <$chapnum>
    Based on what you are seeing, it might be:
    <$chapnum>\t
  5. Delete the \t.
    [ Edit ]
    [ Done ]

If this is your situation, find the person who did that, and toss them into the North Sea, in winter.

When you edit a User Variable, the dialog only shows User Variables.

When you edit a System variable, the dialog only show System Variables.

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Oct 24, 2013 Oct 24, 2013

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Hi,

I just tested this (with text symbols shown). A tab in a cross-reference

definition is not visible, if it is pasted as tab. If it is pasted as \t, I see

it as \t in the cross-reference definition and as > in the cross-reference.

Therefore I suggest to replace the characters between the number

and "on page" with a single space. Possibly a tab is hidden there.

Best regards

Winfried

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Oct 24, 2013 Oct 24, 2013

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While it's difficult to troubleshoot in (what looks to me like) German, I believe you are using the equivalent of the <$paranum> building block, which is picking up the tab from your paragraph's autonumber format. Replace that building block with the (German?) equivalent of the <$paranumonly> building block, and you should be fine.

Explanations for these things are in my (hefty, 700 page) book.

-Matt

Matt R. Sullivan
co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11

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That did the trick. Thank you very much Mr. Sullivan. The paranum is the <$AbsNumExkl> in the German version of Framemaker 11.

But still, I believe the author of the document I am working on somehow tempered with the <$paranum> variable.

I would also like to thank every one else  who came up with a possible solutions to my problem.

Best regards

Mr. Lassen

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Oct 25, 2013 Oct 25, 2013

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Hmmm, If you want to see the default definition of the <$paranum> (<AbsNum>?) variable, simply create a new blank portrait document. Use that string to redefine your "problem" variable.

-Matt

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