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Identify Alphabet (not particular font)

Guide ,
Mar 07, 2014 Mar 07, 2014

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We are recreating an old package. As shown below, the printed message (whatever it says) appears twice, and the glyphs (mostly) match, so I doubt the red-circled ones are merely distortions or misprints (see explanation below -- I could be wrong).

My first thought was that it was Cyrillic. But there are two glyphs (circled in red) that do not appear in any Cyrillic, or Open Type font glyph sets that I can find. There is another (?) glyph (circled in green) where I am not sure if it is a separate glyph, or a print blob and a glyph.

I have had no luck at the usual suspects; whatthefont forum, etc.

If anyone can point me to a language / alphabet, or a font contining the glyphs I would be very appreciative.

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Thanks for looking at this.

--OB

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LEGEND , Mar 07, 2014 Mar 07, 2014

Old Bob:

That's standard Cyrillic, specifically Russian.

The first glyph in a red rectangle is simply an alternative form of the Russian letter D, or Д.  The pointy, triangular alternative is common in Cyrillic sans serif typefaces. The word reads RADIOLAMPA  (РАДИОЛАМПА).

The glyph in the second red rectangle is simply and alternative of the Russian letter L, or Л. Again, the pointy, triangular alternative is common in Cyrillic sans serif typefaces.

The acronym on the right reads R S F S R in Roman

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LEGEND ,
Mar 07, 2014 Mar 07, 2014

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Old Bob:

That's standard Cyrillic, specifically Russian.

The first glyph in a red rectangle is simply an alternative form of the Russian letter D, or Д.  The pointy, triangular alternative is common in Cyrillic sans serif typefaces. The word reads RADIOLAMPA  (РАДИОЛАМПА).

The glyph in the second red rectangle is simply and alternative of the Russian letter L, or Л. Again, the pointy, triangular alternative is common in Cyrillic sans serif typefaces.

The acronym on the right reads R S F S R in Roman letters, or Р С Ф С Р in Cyrillic script.  I can't make out the "blob" either, but I cannot discard the possibility that it may have significance in another, non-Russian, Slavic language that uses the same script (alphabet) such as Ukrainian, Bulgarian or even Church Slavonic, in which I would be close to illiterate in contrast with Russian.

I'm sure if you look at the entire glyph complement of a number of Cyrillic sans serif faces, you'll find your pointy D and L. 

I'll see which of my Cyrillic fonts have them and report back

Hope this helps—at least for now.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 07, 2014 Mar 07, 2014

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station_two wrote:

…The acronym on the right reads R S F S R in Roman letters, or Р С Ф С Р in Cyrillic script…

I should have added that it stands for Российская Советская Федеративная Социалистическая Республика, or "Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic."

РАДИОЛАМПА simply means  "vacuum tube".

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LEGEND ,
Mar 07, 2014 Mar 07, 2014

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Here are two screen shots of Font Agent Pro 6.104 showing the Glyph View of the pertinent sections showing respectively the uppercase and the lowercase of the late Richard A. Ware's "Glasnost DemiBold" Cyrillic typeface.

lowercase:

Screen Shot 2014-03-07 at 5.51.14 PM.png

and

Screen Shot 2014-03-07 at 5.55.27 PM.png

UPPERCASE

Any Adobe sans serif that has Cyrillic glyphs should show them too.

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LEGEND ,
Mar 07, 2014 Mar 07, 2014

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BTW:

OldBob1957 wrote:

…the printed message (whatever it says) appears twice, and the glyphs (mostly) match…

The difference you see between the two lines of text is that the upper line contains uppercase glyphs, while the second one consists of lowercase letters.

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Enthusiast ,
Mar 08, 2014 Mar 08, 2014

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Just to add to what's already been said, one Adobe typeface that uses those forms of De and El is my own Hypatia Sans:

https://www.adobe.com/type/browser/landing/hypatia/pdfs/Hypatia_Sans_web_poster.pdf

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LEGEND ,
Mar 08, 2014 Mar 08, 2014

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Thomas Phinney wrote:

…my own Hypatia Sans:

https://www.adobe.com/type/browser/landing/hypatia/pdfs/Hypatia_Sans_w eb_poster.pdf

Gorgeous typeface, Thomas!

…but what a disaster the Adobe Type pages are!  Every second link returns an error. 

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LEGEND ,
Mar 09, 2014 Mar 09, 2014

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Just one more example:

Screen Shot 2014-03-09 at 4.36.49 PM.png

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Guide ,
Mar 10, 2014 Mar 10, 2014

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Thank you Station two and Thomas Phinney.

I suspected it was a sans-serif face (and I had even guessed at the correct glyphs in the serif fonts), but none of the sans-serif I found had those exact glyphs and, not reading or speaking the language, I didn't want to go on a guess.

Thank you both again for all your help!

--OB

Edit to add: Yep. That did the trick. Thanks again guys!

--OB

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LEGEND ,
Mar 10, 2014 Mar 10, 2014

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You're welcome, Old Bob.

FWIW, email notifications are not happening for me in this or any other thread in any other forum.  Despite having subscribed to receive email notifications for the thread, I never received notifications for TPh's reply nor for yours.

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Guide ,
Mar 10, 2014 Mar 10, 2014

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Yes, I saw your post about that in Forum Comments. I've never used email notifications, so I fear I can be no help in that regard.

Good luck, and thanks again.

--OB

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LEGEND ,
Mar 10, 2014 Mar 10, 2014

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I almost never use email notifications either.  I used that option here this time because this has become a pretty lonely forum and sometimes I forget to come back here to check.  There was a time—before Jive—when I was very active here.

No big deal, I'll just forget about using notifications now that I know that it's a useless option.

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Community Expert ,
Mar 11, 2014 Mar 11, 2014

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station two,

I also find that the design forums have become uncannily quiet, especially after the latest forum list change where the whole group has been hidden away between two forums starting with C in a long list that seems to have been assembled from various alphabetic and non alphabetic lists thrown together.

Looking through the list again, it is even messier than I (thought I) remembered.

I will try to ask someone whether it is possible to have a cleanup, and preferably have the design forums in a more prominent place as was the case earlier.

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