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The future of Flash Remoting?

May 1, 2007 2:25 AM

We are about to embark on a major, long term project which requires Flash/Database connectivity and Flash Remoting seemed the perfect way to go. Having just acquired Flash CS3, I encountered some difficulty since there is no Remoting Components package available for CS3. I did however find this link and manage to get my AS2.0 code to run:

http://blog.vixiom.com/2007/04/17/actionscript-20-flash-remoting-with- flash-cs3

This makes me worried about the future of Flash Remoting - I don't want to purchase and then be locked into a technology that gets shelved or overlooked by Adobe. I am aware of the AMFPHP toolkit but this since we are going with .NET this is not appropriate. Does anyone else have the same fears or does anyone at Adobe have any information on what the future of Flash Remoting will be?

Thanks guys
 
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    May 7, 2007 8:14 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    I do have the same concerns on this topic with every new release. We currently have a large application that is built using Adobe flash remoting and .net in AS2.0. You may want to look into WebOrb. These guys have been arround since remoting became available. Their remoting product has some nice features that Adobe Remoting does not. For example more security settings. They also continue to update their WebOrb product as well as offer the ability to use remoting with other technologies such as Ajax, and Flex to name a few. Nothing compares to passing objects and I hope to see Adobe continue to support Flash Remoting.
     
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    May 7, 2007 8:14 AM   in reply to SySnootles
     
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    May 7, 2007 8:14 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    I do have the same concerns on this topic with every new release. We currently
    have a large application that is built using Adobe flash remoting and .net in
    AS2.0. You may want to look into WebOrb. These guys have been arround since
    remoting became available. Their remoting product has some nice features that
    Adobe Remoting does not. For example more security settings. They also continue
    to update their WebOrb product as well as offer the ability to use remoting
    with other technologies such as Ajax, and Flex to name a few. Nothing compares
    to passing objects and I hope to see Adobe continue to support Flash Remoting.

     
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    May 8, 2007 2:51 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    Some word from Adobe about Flash Remoting components for CS3 would be good.

    Then I might actually be able to move to CS3.
     
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    May 9, 2007 7:03 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    SySnootles, thanks. What about the NetConnection Debugger? I know there's alternatives to it for PC, but not for Mac.

    I'm currently using Flash 8 + AS 2.0 and so have no problems with remoting of course. But I'm *looking* to move to CS3 + AS 3.0.
     
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    May 16, 2007 12:57 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    I have come up with some documentation on migrating the remoting components etc.. into Flash CS3. I have both AS2 and AS3 remoting setup in Flash CS3 and working. We went through the same process when migrating from MX to 8. I will try to get that posted this week.
     
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    May 16, 2007 4:16 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    That will be great Jed.
     
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    May 27, 2007 7:55 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Sorry it took me a few days to get this up but here you go.

    ActionScript 2.0 Remoting Coponents and Debugger in Flash CS3.

    1. Copy Remoting and RPC Folders from your Documents and settings location TO FLASH CS3 LOCATION.

    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\Configuration\Classes\mx
    to
    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Adobe\Flash CS3\en\Configuration\Classes\mx

    2.Copy Remoting.Fla From.

    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\Configuration\Libraries
    To
    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Adobe\Flash CS3\en\Configuration\Libraries

    3. Copy NetConnection Debugger.swf and Service Browser.swf from.

    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\Configuration\WindowSWF
    To
    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\Adobe\Flash CS3\en\Configuration\WindowSWF

    4. Copy NetConnection Debugger.swf and Service Browser.swf from or WindowSWF folder.

    C:\Program Files\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\First Run\WindowSWF
    To
    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Flash CS3\en\First Run\WindowSWF

    5. Copy the Libraries Folder.

    C:\Program Files\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\First Run
    to
    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Flash CS3\en\First Run

    6. Copy Remoting and RPC Folders from your Program Files location TO FLASH CS3 LOCATION.

    C:\Program Files\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\First Run\Classes\mx
    To
    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Flash CS3\en\First Run\Classes\mx

    7. Copy the RemotingConnector.swc from.

    C:\Program Files\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\First Run\Components\Data Components
    to
    C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Flash CS3\en\Configuration\Components\Data

    This will allow you to use the Remoting component in Flash cs3 just as you did in Flash 8. You will still need to use them in Action Script 2.0 Files.
     
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    Jun 7, 2007 11:55 AM   in reply to jedders
    Could you put all those files in a zipped file? It doesn't have to contain the file structure but just the files since I don't have Flash 8 handy (I have it but uninstalled) so it would be impossible for me to have Flash Remoting back. I thank you very much for your help!
     
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    Jun 7, 2007 11:55 AM   in reply to jedders
    Sorry for double post!
     
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    Jun 16, 2007 8:13 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Thanks Jedders, all works and very importantly past projects compile properly now in CS3. It means I can now use my updated program.
     
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    Jun 21, 2007 6:39 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    HI!

    I'm trying to set up remoting components for Flash CS3 on Mac OS X but since I dont have Flash 8 I cannot install the components at all.
    How could I get AS2 remoting components and debugger for Flash CS3?
     
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    Jun 21, 2007 6:44 AM   in reply to Kaspar V
    Yes. Can anyone upload the ZIP file of these components? Thanks
     
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    Jun 28, 2007 6:28 PM   in reply to jedders
    thanks for that jedders.
    for anyone running vista, interpret
    C:\Documents and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Application Data\...
    as:
    C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\...

    Also I found i needed to copy DataRange.as, PageableData.as and PageableList.as files from
    C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Macromedia\Flash 8\en\Configuration\Classes\mx\data
    to:
    C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Adobe\Flash CS3\en\Configuration\Classes\mx\data

    perhaps to use the RecordSet data type.
     
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    Jul 4, 2007 5:42 AM   in reply to Kaspar V
    Here's a ZIP archive for Mac users with all files needed to make remoting works in Flash CS3 like in Flash 8 (it works for me).
    It comes with Classes, Remoting.fla and NetConnection Debugger.swf.
    Simply copy files in your /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Flash CS3/Configuration folder.

    Hope it helps.

    http://www.free-styler.com/remoting/Remoting_FlashCS3.zip
     
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    Jul 4, 2007 5:48 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Thanks a lot shinjuka.
     
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    Jul 12, 2007 5:02 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Thanks!
     
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    Nov 4, 2007 7:33 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Hi there,

    I've been using RemoteObject to handle my remoting in Flex. I'm completely confused however when it comes to straight Flash CS3 (AS 3). I understand that the responder object handles my results from a method call. But how do I get access to the data within? I'm trying result.label, result[0].label...nothing.

    Example:

    private function onResult(result:Object):void
    {
    Alert.show("Label is "+result[0].label);

    Thanks.

    Novian
     
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    Nov 4, 2007 9:31 AM   in reply to Novian
    Update:

    I figured it out. One of the blogs on AMFPHP mentioned "serverInfo" and "initialData". I was able to use those to access the data in my object e.g. result.serverInfo.initialData

    Is it me or is there VERY little documentation with respect to AS 3 and remoting outside of Flex 2?

    Thanks for your leads.

    Novian
     
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    Dec 31, 2007 3:34 PM   in reply to Shinjuka
    quote:

    Originally posted by: Shinjuka
    Here's a ZIP archive for Mac users with all files needed to make remoting works in Flash CS3 like in Flash 8 (it works for me).
    It comes with Classes, Remoting.fla and NetConnection Debugger.swf.
    Simply copy files in your /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Flash CS3/Configuration folder.

    Hope it helps.

    http://www.free-styler.com/remoting/Remoting_FlashCS3.zip


    Hi Shinjuka,

    Is there any way that you can re-post this link. I am on a mac and no longer have access to the flash 8 remoting files to try this fix.

    Thanks.
     
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    Jan 8, 2008 10:20 AM   in reply to jonnyappleseed
    The ZIP archive can be found here : http://www.hellgear.net/shared/Remoting_FlashCS3.zip
     
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    Apr 17, 2008 12:28 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    thanks shinjuka
     
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    Jun 4, 2008 11:43 PM   in reply to Shinjuka
    Hi Shinjuka,

    Could you possibly repost a link to the zip archive for Mac OS X for flash remoting on CS3?

    thanks,
    Loc
     
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    Jun 17, 2008 4:50 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Ye thanks
     
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    Jul 25, 2008 1:03 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    You can find the download here: http://drupal.org/node/258605

    Post #5
     
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    Sep 12, 2008 3:00 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    Very interesting writeup thank you.
     
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    Sep 14, 2008 2:54 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    Shinjuka,
    Thanks for the file, that's very generous of you!
     
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    Sep 26, 2008 8:17 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Thanks
     
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    Sep 28, 2008 2:10 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    thanks
     
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    Oct 15, 2008 3:30 PM   in reply to SySnootles
    Great templates and many other cool flash applications at:
    http://flashden.net?ref=luke

     
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    Nov 4, 2008 11:14 AM   in reply to bvstudio181
    quote:

    Originally posted by: bvstudio181
    You can find the download here: http://drupal.org/node/258605

    Post #5


    This link worked for me! The 2 others led me to a suspicious 404. I may be jumping to conclusions, but that fact that these downloads disappeared (**cough cough, lawyers, cough cough**) combined with the fact that Adobe offers no installer that works with Flash CS3 leads me to assume that they really don't want people using remoting in AS2. I FIND THIS VERY IRRITATING ADOBE! Why didn't you just include the files in CS3 and save us all these headaches?
     
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    Nov 20, 2008 6:13 AM   in reply to SySnootles
     
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    Nov 23, 2008 6:13 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Thanks!
     
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    Nov 23, 2008 7:06 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    Thanks a lot shinjuka.

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    Nov 23, 2008 9:48 PM   in reply to SySnootles
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    Nov 24, 2008 6:01 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    i am very pleasure to have those links.
    thank a lot brother



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    Nov 24, 2008 8:39 AM   in reply to SySnootles
    I will have a look into that today.



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