Adobe Community: Off-canvas items are invisible

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1. Newsgroup_User,

Sep 26, 2006 5:32 PM in reply to Max Stewart

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Max Stewart wrote:
> In Flash, work-in-progress items parked temporarily in the area surrounding the
> stage remain visible. In my FW (V8), they are invisible except for their
> boundary box (and even then only when when selected).
> I feel sure there has to be an option in FW to make off-canvas items always
> visible but cannot find it.

There is no such option in Fireworks. I'd like to see one myself.

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2. lukearndt1,

Jun 10, 2008 9:09 AM in reply to Newsgroup_User

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After a bit of searching, I came across this thread. Like the OP, I would love to be able to make those out-of-canvas items visible. It's a real pain to only be able to view what's inside of the canvas. Why can't things be placed "off-stage"?

If anybody has any sort of workaround, I would love to hear it! I like Fireworks, but I'm having trouble with this limitation. I'm so used to being able to throw something off-stage for a bit, but with FW it's really hard to adjust.

-Luke

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3. pixlor,

Jun 11, 2008 8:50 PM in reply to Max Stewart

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Well...it's definitely a workaround, but...

Make your image nice and large. As the first layer, put a rectangle that is the size you want your final image to be. Don't put anything else on that layer. Lock the layer while you work.

When you get ready to export, save a copy and do the final output from that. As the first step, turn off visibility of all layers except the first one with your background rectangle. Unlock it. Select the rectangle. Go to Modify>Canvas>Trim canvas. Now, you have an image that is the size you want. Bitmaps that are not wholly within the rectangle are cropped. Objects that are completely outside the rectangle are deleted. (This is why you want to work with a copy.)

If you want a transparent background, turn off the visibility on the background rectangle or delete it.

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4. Newsgroup_User,

Jun 12, 2008 12:02 AM in reply to Newsgroup_User

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Hi Luke,

> If anybody has any sort of workaround, I would love to hear it! I like
> Fireworks, but I'm having trouble with this limitation. I'm so used to
> being
> able to throw something off-stage for a bit, but with FW it's really hard
> to
> adjust.

One way of dealing with that is make the canvas as large as you need for the
whole work area, put the stuff you're not using on the side or bottom, then
just draw slices around the stuff you want to export, and export just those
slices - that's what I do.

Aloha,

Jerry

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5. Jonbon999,

Jun 12, 2008 9:28 AM in reply to Max Stewart

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yep exactly the correct info there

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6. lukearndt1,

Jun 12, 2008 10:53 AM in reply to Max Stewart

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Thanks for the ideas, Lorraine and Jerry.

I like your solution, Jerry. That seems to be a fairly painless workaround. I still am confused as to why Fireworks behaves this way in the first place, but this is a big improvement.