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Support Arabic Typing in CS6

May 8, 2012 10:03 AM

Hello everyone,

 

During the Beta versions of Photoshop, I have moticed there was an extra support for typing, which was arabic or midlle eastern typing from the language options

 

but I see in the finall releas.. this option has been unebabled..

 

so now I cannot type in arabic ?!

 

Any help?!

 

Regards

 
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    May 8, 2012 10:08 AM   in reply to vodafoneuser

    Photoshop CS6 does support Arabic (and Hebrew).

    It's the same in the final release as it was in the beta.

     

    Preferences: Type : Choose Text Engine Options: Middle Eastern

     
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    May 9, 2012 11:18 AM   in reply to Chris Cox

    Thanks I was having the same problem... but I can't find the Righ-To-Left text alignment... it's always LTR now... any way to show this option ?

     

    BTW, that option only applies to Photoshop, I can't see it in Illustrator and InDesign...

     
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    May 9, 2012 12:40 PM   in reply to Xajel

    We are currently working with the CS4 ME version.

     

    After I read this document:

     

    http://helpx.adobe.com/mena/using/arabic-hebrew.html#id_13609

     

    I downloaded the CS6 trial to see if we can upgrade our Macs without waiting for a ME version.

     

    I got Arabic enabled in Photoshop and InDesign, not in Illustrator.

     

    But still I don't find the options as described in the document above; text direction, character direction, left-bounded pages (in InDesign), and so on...

     

    Is it possible that these feature are not integrated in the current version of CS6 or do I miss some hidden preferences (like in Photoshop the "Middle Eastern" text engine option?

     

    Help is really appreciated!

     
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    May 9, 2012 2:43 PM   in reply to desert_water

    The features are in the final version of Photoshop CS6.

    Yes, they do need to be enabled by the Middle Eastern type preference as I said above.

     
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    May 9, 2012 4:56 PM   in reply to desert_water

    Some of you are looking in the top type menu for the preferences. Try this:

     

    Windows:

    In the Photoshop top menu,  Edit>Preferences>Type 

    MacOS:

    In the Photoshop menu on the far left, Preferences>Type

     

    Now in the "Choose Text Engine Options", select Middle Eastern, then exit Photoshop and restart. 

     

    In the Photoshop top menu:  Type>Language Options, you see the options for Middle Eastern features and direction.

     
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    May 9, 2012 9:48 PM   in reply to Pattie F

    Ok, very nice. Arabic fully enabled in Photoshop.

     

    But what about InDesign and Illustrator?

     

    There are no language options in the type menu, no Middle Eastern option in the preferences, no left-bounded pages function...

     
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    May 10, 2012 4:40 PM   in reply to vodafoneuser

    You should ask in the forums for those products.

     
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    May 10, 2012 4:45 PM   in reply to vodafoneuser

    Howdy VodafoneUser,

     

    Check out this video for Photoshop --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk.

     

    I'll be adding more over the next couple of months, giving folks a tour of the various MENA features.  Comments and bug-reports are quite welcome!  8-)

     

    Other CS6 apps should have this functionality as well, although their method to access it might be a little different.

     

    Shukran,
    David

     
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    May 12, 2012 9:30 PM   in reply to David Mohr

    Thanks David!

     

    I am pretty sure your video will help a lot of people which are struggleling to find the Arabic feature in PS.

     

    But what about InDesign and Illustrator?! Anybody knows how to enable it there?

     

    Regards from the desert!

     
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    May 14, 2012 10:22 AM   in reply to desert_water

    MarHaba Desert_Water,

     

    Alas, but I only worked on the Photoshop implementation of this feature, but I do know that something similar was added to both Illustrator and InDesign.  Unfortunately, you'll have to talk to those teams about the specifics.

     

    Sorry and good luck,

    Regards from Silicon Valley!  8-)

    David

     
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    Oct 18, 2012 4:07 AM   in reply to desert_water

    The issue is that there is no, "apply middle east composer", that is to say, that if a non ME version is opened in CS6 then the text stories cannot be changed to ME, meaning that if one types Hebrew/Arabic in what was English it will come out back-to-front. This was not the case in CS5.5 where one simply applied the middle east composer.

    This would appear to be a massive failure of CS6.

     
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    Dec 4, 2012 9:31 AM   in reply to Chris Cox

    I have Photoshop CS 8.0, and I cannot find the "TYPE" window anywhere!! I'd really appreciate your help! When I go to Edit>Preferences, the only options are:

    General,

    File Handling,

    Display& Cursors,

    Transparency & Gamut,

    Units & Rulers,

    Guides, Grid & Slices,

    Plug-Ins & Scratch Disks,

    Memory, and

    File Browser.

     

    When I select General, I see "Show Asian Text Options" but not Middle Eastern. Do I need to download something? I've been looking everywhere online and can't find anything that tells me what to do.

     

    Please help!

     
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    Dec 4, 2012 10:41 AM   in reply to MelyElly

    Hi,

     

    The ability to change to the Middle Eastern Text compositing engine is new to Ps CS6.

    MelyElly wrote:

     

    I have Photoshop CS 8.0

     

    regards,

    steve

     
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    Dec 4, 2012 11:17 AM   in reply to SG...

    I think maybe MelyElly is asking the same question as I did, namely, where is, "apply middle east composer" - which used to be in (previous versions of the middle eastern) Photoshop and properly changes text stories to RTL, something that is lacking now.

     
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    Dec 4, 2012 12:08 PM   in reply to MelyElly

    Howdy MelyElly,

     

    It sounds like you're actually running a much older version of Photoshop which doesn't have the Middle Eastern composer at all.  Photoshop 8 aka CS1 was released in October of 2003.  The current version is Photoshop 13.1 aka CS6.  We've made a lot of improvements in the last five versions / nine years, including full support for Arabic and Hebrew, although very limited support was available starting with CS4.

     

    Thanks,
    David

     
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    Dec 19, 2012 6:32 PM   in reply to David Mohr

    Thanks, so I have downloaded Photoshop CS6, and that works great for typing Hebrew. However, when I paste Hebrew text either from online or Word, the text direction flips, and all the words read from left to right rather than right to left. Can anyone help me fix that?

     

    No matter how many times I try, it will not let me click Right-to-Left Character Direction in the Character menu:

     

    Screen shot 2012-12-19 at 7.29.17 PM.png

    Eager for a solution...

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 10:39 AM   in reply to MelyElly

    This is exactly what I am saying, the ability to flip story direction that was in previous Photoshop ME, CS5 and CS5.5 - namely the 'Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer' is gone!

     

    I don't know if the developers of Photoshop at Adobe even are aware of this (however much we bleat about it here)!!

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 11:53 AM   in reply to MelyElly

    I figured out the right-to-left problem: you have to uncheck Kashidas and then the right-to-left becomes an option.

     

    However, like giant JELLYFISH is saying, I cannot find the World-Ready Composer that would enable pasted Hebrew/Arabic text to be right-to-left. In the list where it should be, this is all I see:

    Screen shot 2012-12-20 at 12.49.05 PM.png

     

    As this Adobe CS6 help shows, the Paragraph menu is supposed to show these options (including World-Ready):

    World-readyComposer.png

    But my list (above) doesn't show World Ready... Hmm.

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 12:49 PM   in reply to MelyElly

    But perhaps that menu snapshot from Adobe was of the Photoshop CS6  Middle Eastern and North African Edition (MENA) Edition. I just spent forever chatting with Adobe support to try to find the World-Ready Compose feature in PS CS6 (including sharing what you said here, giant Jellyfish, about it being available on the previous version of Photoshop) and he basically just told me that I would have to purchase the Middle Eastern version.

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 1:35 PM   in reply to MelyElly

    There is no Middle Eastern version of CS6 -- it's all one version now.  The person you spoke to was very confused.

     

    The paragraph palette shown appears to be from InDesign.

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 2:21 PM   in reply to MelyElly

    Howdy MelyElly,

     

    The screenshot you have posted is from AI or ID, NOT Photoshop.  Half of the features in that submenu don't exist in Photoshop either.  To use Middle Eastern features in Photoshop, you must enable the Middle Eastern text engine.  To do that, follow the steps found in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk

     

    Thanks,
    David

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 2:25 PM   in reply to Chris Cox

    Actually, there is a specific MENA (Middle Eastern and North African) version of Photoshop CS6, but that same functionality also exists in all other versions of Photoshop as well.  The MENA version merely defaults to the correct settings needed for Arabic, Hebrew, etc.  These settings can also be manually configured by the user.  Please see this video for details on how to access this functionality using ANY langauge version of Photoshop, whether French, Russian, Chinese, whatever -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk

     

    Shukran / Toda

    David

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 6:05 PM   in reply to David Mohr

    What a great video, David—very well done. However, I can do all that (type in Hebrew) fine; the problem is when I try to paste a paragraph of text, then it flips left-to-right.

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 6:47 PM   in reply to MelyElly

    Howdy MelyElly,

     

    How are you encountering this problem?  I find that when I've correctly set my text engine to MENA and enabled right-to-left text flow, that if I copy either Hebrew or Arabic from, say, Wikipedia, it pastes just fine.  If you type in Hebrew, does it go right-to-left?  Did you change the justification or the actual text flow (P looking icon on the bottom-left of the Paragraph palette when Middle Eastern options are enabled from the Type menu)?

     

    I would be happy to do a brief, live connect session with you now to troubleshoot your problem, but I will be leaving the office in the next hour or so and not returning until the 15th of February.  Until then, unless you're in Turkey, Egypt, or Jordan, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for my return.  8-P

     

    You can email me directly at dmohr@adobe.com

     

    Thanks,
    David

     
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    Dec 20, 2012 6:56 PM   in reply to David Mohr

    Thanks so much for your help David. I was just emailing you, and decided to check one more time to make sure I had everything correct, and this time it WORKED!!!!!!!  It's a miracle, because I don't think I did anything differently than I did before (but I must have missed one little thing somewhere—or maybe I just didn't restart Photoshop after enabling right-to-left text direction in the character menu). So, THANK YOU for persevering, and for your help!  You just saved me hours of typing!!!

    Have a great trip!

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 12:41 PM   in reply to MelyElly

    Those fixes do kind of work for the problem that MelyElly has, but generally I design a website comp in Photoshop in English for a client, get an OK, then flip it to Right-to-Left for the Hebrew version. In CS5/5.5 the "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" worked fine for text stories, however, in CS6 it is non-existent and does not work for (what should be) a simple issue!!!

     

    Please bring back "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" for CS6 or subsequent PS versions!!!

     
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    Dec 23, 2012 8:59 PM   in reply to giant JELLYFISH

    Howdy Jellyfish,

     

    If you create your text box symmetrically, I don't see why flipping the flow of text wouldn't work.  It should hit the same functionality as the previous version, so long as you use the MENA composer for your English layer.  I did a brief test and didn't have a problem.  I'm on vacation, but perhaps when I return I could follow up with you.  Try this yourself though:

     

    1) click Preferences > Type and set PS to use the Middle Eastern text engine

    2) quit PS and relaunch

    3) click Type > Language Options > Middle Eastern Features

    4) open the Paragraph panel

     

    From here, you can create the English comp using L2R text flow.  Once you're done, you can select the same text layer and switch to R2L and replace the English text with Hebrew.

     

    Thanks,

    David

     
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    Dec 25, 2012 1:42 PM   in reply to David Mohr

    Hi David - I know we've been over this a few times.

     

    Taking a new doc with text stories created in PS6 as you state above indeed does produce the desired result.

     

    However, taking a document from a previous version of Photoshop, for example a design comp in English,

    if I follow the workflow you have below - it does not flip the logical ordering of the Hebrew as "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" produced in CS5/CS5.5

     

    It is this that I will still keep bugging you about - I don't want to drop back to legacy versions of the program to do something I used to be able to do in Photoshop!

    The only other way would be to recreate text stories, which in a  design would be long and arduous! (I can supply you with a PSD doc if you so desire).

     

    Please bring back "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" !!!

     
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    Jun 20, 2013 6:46 AM   in reply to SG...


    Hi,

     

    I'm also havins some issues with converting from English to Arabic for "mock-up" purposes.
    Please see image below..

     

    Urgent!.

     

    Thanks

     

     
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    Jun 20, 2013 6:48 AM   in reply to Rahzah

    I'm also have problems converting from English to Arabic for "mock-up" puposes.
    Can any one help with this one?arabic-mockup-questions.jpg

     

    Please see attached image.

     

    I need this urgently....

     

    Thanks.

     
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    Jun 20, 2013 9:43 AM   in reply to Rahzah

    MarHaba ya Rahzah,

     

    Hey, I would be willing to bet that you're using the wrong type composer to enter your Arabic text.  Check out my video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk )  for specific details on how to change to the correct text engine as well as the basics of how the text engines work.  Unless you're using advanced Japanese and Chinese typography, I would suggest that you simply switch your composer to Middle East / South Asian and leave it there.

     

    If you are still having trouble, please ping me back and I'd be happy to step through your problem.

     

    Shukran,

    David

     
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    Jun 20, 2013 9:53 AM   in reply to David Mohr

    Hi David,

     

    Your video was one of the first things I watch, as I first search YouTube for the answer.
    As mentioned I did change the Type Engine, plus Type>Language Options>Middle Eastern Features

     

    As in your demo, I an NOT trying to type, just wanting to cut/paste from an already traslated Word document.

     

    I have actually resorted to the "Arabic-Farsi-Template-For-Photoshop.psd" template provided by Adobe, which really makes my work less efficient as I have to keep copy/duplicating layers in my document.

     
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    Jun 20, 2013 10:48 AM   in reply to Rahzah

    Howdy Rahzah,

     

    My template shouldn't behave any differently than changing the composer.  That's actually all the template does; it is tagged to auto-magically use the MENA composer in lieu of the historical/East Asian one.  That the template is working but the composer is not would indicate either a weird, new bug or there's a step missing in your process.  Let's see if we can fix this up for you...

     

    Which version of Photoshop and what OS are you running on?  Are you using a document created in a previous version or one that you created in your current version.  Did you reboot your application after changing text engines?  Have you tried changing your text engine to MENA and creating a new document from scratch, just in case there's file corruption/incompatibility involved?  Can you verify that you are, in fact, using the MENA engine for your current document?

     

    If none of these suggestions are able to resolve you problem, I would be happy to use Connect to screen-share and get to the bottom of your issue.  My email is dmohr at adobe dot com.

     

    Thanks,
    David

     
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    Jun 20, 2013 11:23 AM   in reply to David Mohr

    Hi David,

     

    Not sure what you mean by MENA composer...no idea.

     

    I'm running Photoshop CS6 13.01 X64 - EXTENDED
    Windows 7 Professional

     

    To be honest, all I was expecting to do was select my current/original text and select an Arabic font, then realign/rearrange as needed.

    I'm really glad I'm not in a "We need this by tomorrow" situation, or I would have been screwed.

     

    I'm also available for a quick screen share if needed.

     

     

     

    Please help.

     

    Thanks.

     
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