During the Beta versions of Photoshop, I have moticed there was an extra support for typing, which was arabic or midlle eastern typing from the language options
but I see in the finall releas.. this option has been unebabled..
so now I cannot type in arabic ?!
Thanks I was having the same problem... but I can't find the Righ-To-Left text alignment... it's always LTR now... any way to show this option ?
BTW, that option only applies to Photoshop, I can't see it in Illustrator and InDesign...
We are currently working with the CS4 ME version.
After I read this document:
I downloaded the CS6 trial to see if we can upgrade our Macs without waiting for a ME version.
I got Arabic enabled in Photoshop and InDesign, not in Illustrator.
But still I don't find the options as described in the document above; text direction, character direction, left-bounded pages (in InDesign), and so on...
Is it possible that these feature are not integrated in the current version of CS6 or do I miss some hidden preferences (like in Photoshop the "Middle Eastern" text engine option?
Help is really appreciated!
Some of you are looking in the top type menu for the preferences. Try this:
In the Photoshop top menu, Edit>Preferences>Type
In the Photoshop menu on the far left, Preferences>Type
Now in the "Choose Text Engine Options", select Middle Eastern, then exit Photoshop and restart.
In the Photoshop top menu: Type>Language Options, you see the options for Middle Eastern features and direction.
Ok, very nice. Arabic fully enabled in Photoshop.
But what about InDesign and Illustrator?
There are no language options in the type menu, no Middle Eastern option in the preferences, no left-bounded pages function...
Check out this video for Photoshop --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk.
I'll be adding more over the next couple of months, giving folks a tour of the various MENA features. Comments and bug-reports are quite welcome! 8-)
Other CS6 apps should have this functionality as well, although their method to access it might be a little different.
I am pretty sure your video will help a lot of people which are struggleling to find the Arabic feature in PS.
But what about InDesign and Illustrator?! Anybody knows how to enable it there?
Regards from the desert!
Alas, but I only worked on the Photoshop implementation of this feature, but I do know that something similar was added to both Illustrator and InDesign. Unfortunately, you'll have to talk to those teams about the specifics.
Sorry and good luck,
Regards from Silicon Valley! 8-)
The issue is that there is no, "apply middle east composer", that is to say, that if a non ME version is opened in CS6 then the text stories cannot be changed to ME, meaning that if one types Hebrew/Arabic in what was English it will come out back-to-front. This was not the case in CS5.5 where one simply applied the middle east composer.
This would appear to be a massive failure of CS6.
I have Photoshop CS 8.0, and I cannot find the "TYPE" window anywhere!! I'd really appreciate your help! When I go to Edit>Preferences, the only options are:
Transparency & Gamut,
Units & Rulers,
Guides, Grid & Slices,
Plug-Ins & Scratch Disks,
When I select General, I see "Show Asian Text Options" but not Middle Eastern. Do I need to download something? I've been looking everywhere online and can't find anything that tells me what to do.
I think maybe MelyElly is asking the same question as I did, namely, where is, "apply middle east composer" - which used to be in (previous versions of the middle eastern) Photoshop and properly changes text stories to RTL, something that is lacking now.
It sounds like you're actually running a much older version of Photoshop which doesn't have the Middle Eastern composer at all. Photoshop 8 aka CS1 was released in October of 2003. The current version is Photoshop 13.1 aka CS6. We've made a lot of improvements in the last five versions / nine years, including full support for Arabic and Hebrew, although very limited support was available starting with CS4.
Thanks, so I have downloaded Photoshop CS6, and that works great for typing Hebrew. However, when I paste Hebrew text either from online or Word, the text direction flips, and all the words read from left to right rather than right to left. Can anyone help me fix that?
No matter how many times I try, it will not let me click Right-to-Left Character Direction in the Character menu:
Eager for a solution...
This is exactly what I am saying, the ability to flip story direction that was in previous Photoshop ME, CS5 and CS5.5 - namely the 'Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer' is gone!
I don't know if the developers of Photoshop at Adobe even are aware of this (however much we bleat about it here)!!
I figured out the right-to-left problem: you have to uncheck Kashidas and then the right-to-left becomes an option.
However, like giant JELLYFISH is saying, I cannot find the World-Ready Composer that would enable pasted Hebrew/Arabic text to be right-to-left. In the list where it should be, this is all I see:
As this Adobe CS6 help shows, the Paragraph menu is supposed to show these options (including World-Ready):
But my list (above) doesn't show World Ready... Hmm.
But perhaps that menu snapshot from Adobe was of the Photoshop CS6 Middle Eastern and North African Edition (MENA) Edition. I just spent forever chatting with Adobe support to try to find the World-Ready Compose feature in PS CS6 (including sharing what you said here, giant Jellyfish, about it being available on the previous version of Photoshop) and he basically just told me that I would have to purchase the Middle Eastern version.
The screenshot you have posted is from AI or ID, NOT Photoshop. Half of the features in that submenu don't exist in Photoshop either. To use Middle Eastern features in Photoshop, you must enable the Middle Eastern text engine. To do that, follow the steps found in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk
Actually, there is a specific MENA (Middle Eastern and North African) version of Photoshop CS6, but that same functionality also exists in all other versions of Photoshop as well. The MENA version merely defaults to the correct settings needed for Arabic, Hebrew, etc. These settings can also be manually configured by the user. Please see this video for details on how to access this functionality using ANY langauge version of Photoshop, whether French, Russian, Chinese, whatever -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk.
Shukran / Toda
How are you encountering this problem? I find that when I've correctly set my text engine to MENA and enabled right-to-left text flow, that if I copy either Hebrew or Arabic from, say, Wikipedia, it pastes just fine. If you type in Hebrew, does it go right-to-left? Did you change the justification or the actual text flow (P looking icon on the bottom-left of the Paragraph palette when Middle Eastern options are enabled from the Type menu)?
I would be happy to do a brief, live connect session with you now to troubleshoot your problem, but I will be leaving the office in the next hour or so and not returning until the 15th of February. Until then, unless you're in Turkey, Egypt, or Jordan, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for my return. 8-P
You can email me directly at firstname.lastname@example.org
Thanks so much for your help David. I was just emailing you, and decided to check one more time to make sure I had everything correct, and this time it WORKED!!!!!!! It's a miracle, because I don't think I did anything differently than I did before (but I must have missed one little thing somewhere—or maybe I just didn't restart Photoshop after enabling right-to-left text direction in the character menu). So, THANK YOU for persevering, and for your help! You just saved me hours of typing!!!
Have a great trip!
Those fixes do kind of work for the problem that MelyElly has, but generally I design a website comp in Photoshop in English for a client, get an OK, then flip it to Right-to-Left for the Hebrew version. In CS5/5.5 the "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" worked fine for text stories, however, in CS6 it is non-existent and does not work for (what should be) a simple issue!!!
Please bring back "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" for CS6 or subsequent PS versions!!!
If you create your text box symmetrically, I don't see why flipping the flow of text wouldn't work. It should hit the same functionality as the previous version, so long as you use the MENA composer for your English layer. I did a brief test and didn't have a problem. I'm on vacation, but perhaps when I return I could follow up with you. Try this yourself though:
1) click Preferences > Type and set PS to use the Middle Eastern text engine
2) quit PS and relaunch
3) click Type > Language Options > Middle Eastern Features
4) open the Paragraph panel
From here, you can create the English comp using L2R text flow. Once you're done, you can select the same text layer and switch to R2L and replace the English text with Hebrew.
Hi David - I know we've been over this a few times.
Taking a new doc with text stories created in PS6 as you state above indeed does produce the desired result.
However, taking a document from a previous version of Photoshop, for example a design comp in English,
if I follow the workflow you have below - it does not flip the logical ordering of the Hebrew as "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" produced in CS5/CS5.5
It is this that I will still keep bugging you about - I don't want to drop back to legacy versions of the program to do something I used to be able to do in Photoshop!
The only other way would be to recreate text stories, which in a design would be long and arduous! (I can supply you with a PSD doc if you so desire).
Please bring back "Apply Middle Eastern Text Composer" !!!
MarHaba ya Rahzah,
Hey, I would be willing to bet that you're using the wrong type composer to enter your Arabic text. Check out my video ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfuw7m5mVTk ) for specific details on how to change to the correct text engine as well as the basics of how the text engines work. Unless you're using advanced Japanese and Chinese typography, I would suggest that you simply switch your composer to Middle East / South Asian and leave it there.
If you are still having trouble, please ping me back and I'd be happy to step through your problem.
Your video was one of the first things I watch, as I first search YouTube for the answer.
As mentioned I did change the Type Engine, plus Type>Language Options>Middle Eastern Features
As in your demo, I an NOT trying to type, just wanting to cut/paste from an already traslated Word document.
I have actually resorted to the "Arabic-Farsi-Template-For-Photoshop.psd" template provided by Adobe, which really makes my work less efficient as I have to keep copy/duplicating layers in my document.
My template shouldn't behave any differently than changing the composer. That's actually all the template does; it is tagged to auto-magically use the MENA composer in lieu of the historical/East Asian one. That the template is working but the composer is not would indicate either a weird, new bug or there's a step missing in your process. Let's see if we can fix this up for you...
Which version of Photoshop and what OS are you running on? Are you using a document created in a previous version or one that you created in your current version. Did you reboot your application after changing text engines? Have you tried changing your text engine to MENA and creating a new document from scratch, just in case there's file corruption/incompatibility involved? Can you verify that you are, in fact, using the MENA engine for your current document?
If none of these suggestions are able to resolve you problem, I would be happy to use Connect to screen-share and get to the bottom of your issue. My email is dmohr at adobe dot com.
Not sure what you mean by MENA composer...no idea.
I'm running Photoshop CS6 13.01 X64 - EXTENDED
Windows 7 Professional
To be honest, all I was expecting to do was select my current/original text and select an Arabic font, then realign/rearrange as needed.
I'm really glad I'm not in a "We need this by tomorrow" situation, or I would have been screwed.
I'm also available for a quick screen share if needed.