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MikeTheMonk777
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How can I unite two vector objects?

May 21, 2012 4:12 PM

How to unite the red and green parts of the leaf into one solid green leaf? See attached “Leaf” file. (How do I attach the AI file?)

 

I tried the Pathfinder UNITE command and the Live Paint MERGE command.

 
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    May 21, 2012 5:30 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    Take a screen shot of your work and post it using the camera buttom at the top of the rely window.

     
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    May 21, 2012 10:12 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    Give us a chance we can't read your mind.

     

    Tell us what you want to achieve specifically you are showing us your problem but not describing your ultimate goal.

     

    I can guess that perhap either want to make the shape withthe red elements all red  or you want to make only part(s) of tha shape red? But from your description and screen shot it could be combination?

     

    Give it a try and try to be specific.

     
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    May 21, 2012 11:00 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Do you mean somerthing like either one of these if so I made a simple Live Paint Group

     

    I did not redo the art I simply adjust it quickly in Photoshop and then trace it with Image Trace in Illustrator. That is why it is not quite so clean.

     

    The top one you only really have to fill the red shape with a normal fill and not worry about doing anything else.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-05-22 at 1.46.30 AM.png

     

    Screen Shot 2012-05-22 at 1.54.24 AM.png

     
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    May 22, 2012 12:22 AM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    if it is now two color groups you tried to merge release the art from the color groups soyou have the art as all separate object if any of he objecs are compund paths rlease the compund paths such as the shape with the looped stem.

     

    them select all of the art after the compound path has been released and then make that a Live Paint Group. Then use the Live paint Bucket to fill in the color for the area defining the opening in the looped stem fil it with a fill of none.

     

    Now you have what I did in the bottom image.

     

    The reason it is not working for you is that you cannot have a compund path in a Live Paint Group so you have to release it first and fill the space with a fill of none. or a color set to "0" opacity.

     
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    May 22, 2012 12:25 AM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    BTW what did was make the leaf with the red parts as one obkject then drew open paths over that object to define the area and when converted to a Live Paint Group was able to fill those areas with color. it makes it more seamless.

     
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    May 22, 2012 3:11 AM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    The right side of the leaf is in three peaces. How can I make this crescent shape “)” into one object, one vector shape?

    You say you have tried Pathfinder Unite. This should work.

    Depending on what version of Illie you are using you may need to hold down the Option key as you click on the Unite button in the Pathfinder panel.

     
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    May 22, 2012 2:48 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    In versions CS4 and higher you need not hold the ALT-key.

     

    What you need to do, is just select the parts you want to unite (this excludes the white, I guess), then hit that button.

     

    If you want to repeat what you tried, you should first release the mess you made and go back to what you've had in the beginning.

     

    To prvent this stuff in the beginning, you should always state which version you are using.

     
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    May 22, 2012 2:51 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    It colored everything green including the white background

    In which case you should delete the white first and then use Pathfinder as before.

    (Your shot didn't show that there was a white background.)

     
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    May 22, 2012 2:59 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    I apoloize for calling them color groups, I meant Live Paint Groups.

     
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    May 22, 2012 3:15 PM   in reply to Wade_Zimmerman

    Here is a video perhaps this will help.

     

    http://www.wadezimmerman.com/videos/3ShapesLPG.mov

     

    here is ascreen shot of the final result after deselecting the art

     

    Screen Shot 2012-05-22 at 6.08.28 PM.png

     
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    May 22, 2012 5:06 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    If you unite the two objects they will become one objet and one color. You would then have to draw the paths that i have done to recreate them. That is the only way. The you make the Live Paint Group.

     

    There is no other way i thought I mentioned that earlier.

     

    follow the video and you will achieve what you want to tbe best of your abilities.

     

    But you are correct that is all I can offer.

     
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    May 22, 2012 9:46 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    Hmm, this is so simple, don't see why it's not getting solved. Must be some flukes involved. I'm not sure why Live Paint is being used - is not the goal to end up with just two main green shapes, uniting the red parts of the green shape on the right all together?

     

     

    Mike, you see how you can easily adjoin two rectangles together drawing a rect on top of another rect and using Pathfinder Panel > Unite, right?

     

     

     

    Oy . . . here we go . . .

     

    First of all, verify there aren't unwanted copies of shapes stacked on top of each other, mucking things up. Unlock all layers (if more than one), refer to Layer Panel for this. Go to Object > Unlock All, if not ghosted. If ghosted, good. Proceed . . .

     

    Using the Direct Selection Tool (white arrow), click in the filled area of one shape you actaully want to keep, you mkay have to zoom in to do this. be sure to click squarely in the fill of the shape, not on the path points or segments. With a shape selected, go to Object > Hide >Selection.

    Repeat until all shapes you want are gone (hidden).

     

    Go to View > Outlines (at top of View Menu). Do you see anything there? No? Good. But, if you do see anything, drag a box over it with the Direct Selection Tool and press DELETE, twice.

     

    Now go to Object > Show All. Your hidden shapes are back.

     

    Select them all with the Selection Tool (black arrow). Go to Object > Compound Path > Release, if not ghosted. Now go to Object > Ungoup, until it becomes ghosted. If already ghosted, good. Proceed . . .

     

     

    Everything should be ready to work on now, if it wasn't already. The previous junk is all procedure seasoned Illustrator'ers just do on the fly with hardly a thought. Typical tedium of the vector rodeo.

     

    Anyway - select all green shapes, go to Object > Hide > Selection. Get 'em outa the way for now.

     

    Now zoom in close to a red shape. Select a point on a segment of it's path that it shares with it's adjacent green shape, but not on the outer edge! If there's not one, then add one, using the Add Anchor Point Tool. Drag that point with the Direct Selection Tool into where the adjacent green shape was before hiding it - making them overlap. Do this with both red shapes.

     

    Go to Object > Show All.

     

    Everything should be clean. Those little pesky red slivers are now overlapping their adjacent green shape. Select all shapes and hit Pathfinder Panel > Unite  -OR-  Pathfinder Panel > Merge (recommending Unite for this).

     

    BAZINGA

     

    Right?

     
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    May 22, 2012 11:22 PM   in reply to Mathias17

    I the op wants the shapes thre sections to join and be one path of one color let him use the shape builder tool.

     

    read about the shape builder tool?

     

    But i think he wants the right side to be two color but one shape.

     

    That is why I suggested Live Paint Group!

     

    maybe I am wrong.

     

    If he wants one shape as one color then the shape builder tool should do it.

     
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    May 23, 2012 2:50 AM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    Mike,

     

    All that has been said here, and all that has failed to work, makes me wonder whether it is time to look at quite different options.

     

    What happens if you copy everything and paste it into a new document (Ctrl/Cmd+C, Ctrl/Cmd+F)?

     

    If the issue persists, something may be seriously wrong.

     

    You may try the following (you may have tried/done some of them already) and see whether it helps:

     

    1) Close down Illy and open again;

    2) Restart the computer;

    3) Close down Illy and press Ctrl+Alt+Shift/Cmd+Option+Shift during startup;

    4) Move the folder with Illy closed;

    5) Look through and try out the relevant among the Other options;

     

    Even more seriously, and only if everything else fails, you may:

     

    6) Uninstall, run the Cleaner Tool, and reinstall.

     

    http://www.adobe.com/support/contact/cscleanertool.html

     
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    May 23, 2012 8:14 AM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    If you have an object selected, you should be able to hide it. CTRL/CMD+3 does nothing either? (with something selected)

     

    I'm afraid your knowledge of the software is just too minimal.

     

     

     

    You haven't made the file available. Google a file hosting site, upload it, link us to it.

     
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    May 23, 2012 8:18 AM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    MikeTheMonk777 wrote:

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    Why people (the teachers) prefer to speculate that to look at the file is a mystery to me.

    where is your file? You didn't provide any file so, the only way to help you is guessing, It is always a mystery to me why there are so many people who post here expecting help but not providing files and enough information.

     
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    May 23, 2012 8:23 AM   in reply to emil emil

    I'm certainly don't purport to be a "teacher", btw, Just like to get/give graphic design help. I learn a lot here. Our collective knowledge is massive. Disseminating it is good.

     

    Call me a student if anything.

     

    Mike, you might like Dropbox. But, I don't know how generally computer literate you are, so it m ay or may not be a good fit for you. Though, Dropbox attempts to make SVN's/ file-sharing very user-friendly.

     
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    May 23, 2012 9:51 AM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    I rarely encounter such a jacked vector.

     

    Screw it. Here.

     
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    May 23, 2012 10:54 AM   in reply to Mathias17

    Mathias17 wrote:

     

    I rarely encounter such a jacked vector.

     

    Screw it. Here.

     

    I was going to do the same thing for MikeTheMonk77... beat me to it☺

     

    Regarding your quote though: I see these kind of vectors daily, embedded quite often in PSDs and inDesign files.

     

    Note to MikeTheMonk77: you actually would have been better off recreating this vector by placing this mess on it's own layer, locking it, create a new layer, and make new bezier lines with the pen tool. "In the old days" that vector would have killed a RIP every time! Just sayin'....

     
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    May 23, 2012 11:08 AM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    Oh it took about 3 minutes to release the Live Paint Groupg delete some unnecessary paths and turn it back into a Live paint group.

     

    But you arer rright this is something more top do with you than any of the advice given here so you will have to watch more videos and do things in a more dorect way.

     

    Screen Shot 2012-05-23 at 2.04.04 PM.png

     

    Screen Shot 2012-05-23 at 2.07.26 PM.png

     
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    May 23, 2012 2:40 PM   in reply to MikeTheMonk777

    This forum is funny.

     

    Technically, the corrrect "answer" is the solution to the thread's initial question - 'How do I unite two vectors?'.

     

    Though yes, just redrawing the thing is a much better direction to go, in this case. But that's not what was asked.

     

    Glad you succeeded, anyhow. You have much to learn, grasshopper.

     
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