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Option to Add Meta Data to Web Page on V3 dashboard

May 24, 2012 5:51 PM

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Where is the option to add mata date in the V3 dashboard?

 
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  • mario_gudelj
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    May 25, 2012 3:59 PM   in reply to Frank Branker

    Go to your web page under Site Manager > Pages > Page Properties and enter the meta data.

     

    Cheers,

     

    -mario

     
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  • mario_gudelj
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    May 27, 2012 6:53 PM   in reply to Frank Branker

    Hi Frank,

     

    Here's the screenshot of the button you need to click:

     

    page-properties.jpg

     

    Cheers,

     

    -mario

     
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  • Liam Dilley
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    May 27, 2012 9:26 PM   in reply to mario_gudelj

    Can not use it Mario.

     

    1. It's Page title has no effect or difference with page title, same with products and web apps etc.

    2. Using that wraps the body content in full html even if there is a template selected.

    3. If you have meta from the previous means of Meta data using this will add other meta tags, not replace them so you end up duplication.

    4. If you add a description change/clear and re-add it again it keeps the existing html from the last time and just adds another meta so you end up with two meta tags the same, one with content, one with empty content.

     

    So I can not get our clients to use it due to the problems it introduces. At one point the engineers were even going to remove this.

     
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  • mario_gudelj
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    May 28, 2012 2:24 AM   in reply to Liam Dilley

    Not sure I understand. I just used that Page Properties box to add a description to this page http://mgtrain.businesscatalyst.com/bctest.htm and it worked. If you look at the source it's there.

     

    Cheers,

     

    -mario

     
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  • Liam Dilley
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    May 28, 2012 3:34 AM   in reply to mario_gudelj

    Hey mate.

     

    1. Add a title in there, you will see it wont change. This causes confusion.

    2. View the page source:

    Screen shot 2012-05-28 at 22.26.33.jpg

    This is not good of course when your using a template and plays havoc with custom designs in a variety of ways with how the system behaves.

     

    2. Delete the meta description you added, save the page and remove it again.

    You will see that the system does this:

    Screen shot 2012-05-28 at 22.27.45.jpg

    You can see that the system makes a blank descript and a 2nd one with the changed content. Search engines will read the first and error because you have two. Not good of course

     

    3. If you have Meta added from the old Meta method and a client uses this in Version 3 it doubles up and you can end up with two keywords, two meta and two titles.

     

    It is a real mess.

    Try use it for blogs and products and you get the same problems as well as a couple of extra ones for products.

     

    I sent all these situations direct to the engineers on the problems.

     

    As an aside you have title which is important right at the top on pages but then it is hidden away for products and catalogs. If you do not add it for a product then it takes the Catalogs name or title which is bad. Ok it does something but because it is hidden away actual users of sites forget to do it.

     
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    Sep 1, 2012 8:49 AM   in reply to Liam Dilley

    Liam,    Has this been resolved? What's the best way to add a "meta description" tag and "robots meta" tag to site pages? Can I use the V3 interface or do I need to switch back to the old interface? I'd prefer to not make a mess of the page code if V3 does not work.   Thanks,  Brian

     
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  • Liam Dilley
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    Sep 7, 2012 3:41 AM   in reply to Frank Branker

    Sorry to be a negative post here but that's a lot of out dated information there. some of it wrong, some of it outdated and some of that a bit odd. Also copy and paste from a few places it seems

     

    Here is a statement from one of the recent seo google events just a few weeks ago:

     

    Often a single title might not be the best one to show for all queries for a page, so our algorithms may generate alternative titles to make it easier for our users to recognize relevant pages. If you recently changed the content of your page and its title, it may take some time for our algorithms to notice it. While we can't guarantee that your new title will be used, if it's descriptive, informative, there's a fair chance it will be.

     

    Just as one example.

     

    You do know bc generates the sitemap in this system itself as well? ^^

     
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  • Liam Dilley
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    Sep 7, 2012 6:57 AM   in reply to Frank Branker

    Hi Frank,

    No, it is not burried away.

    You have no setting for this under the new UI. It happens autoamtically when you take a website live. At any time you can upload your own sitemap.xml to the root and this will be used instead. Remove it and BC will re-activate the automatic one within 12 hours.

     

    You should watch the google SEO channel and their documention some time. You will see while keywords are of course a key aspect to SEO it is not by far everything which you post indicated too. In fact google keep making changes like what i quoted about the titles in that they are much more looking at the content and also making more of a fuss about site optimisation and rewarding you for well made sites as well as the content. You do not get punished for poorly made sites of course but you benifit greatly.

     
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    Sep 11, 2012 7:23 AM   in reply to Liam Dilley

    Hi Liam

     

    I had a similar problem. Have three different announcements that have the same H1 which seems to default to page title and overules the page properties title. Thanks for reporting, looking forward to this being fixed.

     

    Matt

     
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  • DandyDahlia
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    Sep 13, 2012 2:12 AM   in reply to Liam Dilley

    Hi Liam et al,

     

    Sorry to be a bit late to the party.. i'm a bit confused aka newbie.

     

    So in conclusion... Is the best SEO thing to do to add onto the "individual product large" template content.

     

    < html>

    < head>

    < meta name ="description" content=" {tag_custom2}" /> ** as you can't use tag-descriptions as too long and will get penalised.

    < meta name = "keywords" content =" {tag_custom1} "/> ** as there is no keyword tag

    < /head>

    < body>

    < h1>{tag for product name</h1>

    < /body>

    < /html>

    (without the extra spaces etc)

     

    So not onto the sitewide template? but then there is no html in individual product large...Sorry for my ignorance. I've googled and read all I can find with BC SEO and there are so many varying mentions... or if there is a single place to get a definite answer please let me know

     
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    Jul 11, 2013 12:50 AM   in reply to DandyDahlia

    The fastest way to rank your pages is connecting them to Facebook using Open Graph Meta Tags - every object needs it's own page with it's own Meta Tags  This is for a simple video app I made and connected to the product page on BC and it works just fine.  The app is here:  apps.facebook.com/headlightrestoration

     


    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" "//www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/loose.dtd">

    <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:fb="http://ogp.me/ns/fb#"> 

    <head prefix="og: http://ogp.me/ns# fb: http://ogp.me/ns/fb# video: http://ogp.me/ns/video#">

    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" />  





      <meta property="fb:app_id" content="147887761995700" />

      <meta property="og:type" content="video.other" />

      <meta property="og:urlcontent="https://cez1.com/fbshops/index.php?id=2" />

      <meta property="og:title" content="Headlight Restoration for Safe Driving at Night?" />

      <meta property="og:image" content="https://cez1.com/fbshops/images/logo/ez-1-chp-alert-fb.jpg" />

      <meta property="og:image" content="https://cez1.com/fbshops/images/product/anti-static.jpg" />

      <meta property="og:image" content="https://cez1.com/fbshops/images/product/final.jpg" />

      <meta property="video:actor:id" content="100003735008066" />

      <meta property="video:duration" content="65" />

     

    OR, you can go to Schema.org and use the markup Google, Bing and Yahoo all agree on... All the information is free on Google's Webmaster Tools and Help Pages.

    Adobe BC Sites are like driving a Rolls Royce - everyone gets out of the way and nobody bothers you so quit worrying about SEO and just be authentic and use the

    mark-up at Schema.org and watch what happens over time. 

     
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  • Liam Dilley
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    Jul 11, 2013 4:18 AM   in reply to thriftgirl

    Completly not true. Sorry but who said to you that the Facebook meta does wonders for your SEO?

    It helps a bit in terms of exposure but the meta has no bearing on your SEO in this context. It is used to help facebook pickup what you want it to for the varius uses of facebook.

     

    Schema has merit, but its not a means to make a massive improvement to your SEO, it is a means ot help pinpoint the certain content elements to save time for the crawling search bot and also remove the means for it to decide what it thinks your doing.


    Same with no clear heading 1 tag and opening paragraph on a page, your basically allowing a search bot to choose what it thinks it should read in this context. Could be wrong, could be something with the wrong keywords etc.

     

    Yep, you need to implement things like this to use them, but they defiantly not a means for massive SEO improvements. This is simply not true.

     

    One phrase you will here said a fair few times if your around the right SEO circles - Content is king!

     
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