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Where the h*!! is CinemaDNG in Premiere CS6

Aug 22, 2012 10:28 AM

I was just about to buy Premiere CS6 and started with the trial.

 

Natually assuming Adobe would have the smarts to include the Cinema DNG plug-in for CS 5.5 as standard in CS6, I downloaded a sample of Cinema DNG.

 

You can imagine I was not happy when the file didn't import.

 

Worse, looking at the lab's download page I at least expected to find a CS6 download.

 

Nope.

 

Not only was there no download --- there was no announcement of DNG for CS6

 

So, I downloaded the 5.5 version and installed it.

 

It works -- sort of. I now have color control. Nice.

 

1) But where is the gamma contol?

 

2) Where is the ability to create a gamma curve?

 

3) Where is the Sharpness control?

 

4) Where is control over the deBayer process. For example, method: FAST > SLOW.  Or EFFICIENCY: 60% to 80%.

 

5) Don't bother to use the Edit Original. In PS you get the full control panel to modify 1 image (I chose the first one), but there seems no way to get the modified image into Premiere. Perhaps the is a secret file that holds the changes.

 

 

Steve

 
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    Jun 26, 2012 1:30 PM   in reply to dvcinlv

    We have not received much interest in including CinemaDNG features in Premiere Pro. If you'd like to request that we add this functionality to Premiere Pro, please submit a feature request.

     
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    Jun 26, 2012 11:12 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    In a month there's going to be a lot of us out there trying to pull CinemaDNG's into Premiere from these:

     

    http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/blackmagiccinemacamera/

     
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    Aug 21, 2012 5:17 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    If Adobe is not interested, then I neither. Period.

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 9:00 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Todd, Adobe is *seriously* dropping the ball on CinemaDNG support in Premier Pro and After Effects. Like, amazingly, apocalyptically, shortsightedly...

     

    Remember how Adobe changed still photography with DNG? Do you really want to make the case that there is no interest in the market for CinemaDNG support? Because if so, you guys aren't doing your research. I can say this both as a software user experience designer and as a photographer/cinematographer.

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:12 PM   in reply to hakkalugi

    I just downloaded the black magic camera footage....and you mean to tell me that premiere pro cs6   will not allow me to edit it at all !!!!!!! huh ...... this is the number one thing that pop on google if you google "cs6 dng premiere pro"

     
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    Aug 22, 2012 3:13 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    support dng bump 1+

     
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    Aug 25, 2012 2:08 AM   in reply to MEGAMANatl

    +1

    You can't push a file format and then drop it without informing your buyers/users! I'm upset about this!

     
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    Aug 26, 2012 8:58 PM   in reply to irieger

    I agree with everyone else here--Adobe introduced CinemaDNG--so why not support it fully?  Makes no sense to me.  I expect the BMD Cinema Camera to be a very popular offering, and will likely spur a number of imitators.  PrPro and Speedgrade need to support this ASAP--stay on the cutting edge.  Don't become another Avid...

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 8:19 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    I have the Blackmagic Cinema Camera on pre-order and I too was shocked and dismayed to find that I couldn't import John Brawley's cinemaDNG files into PPro CS6 because they are not supported  Todd, please explain why Adobe needs to "receive much interest" in order to support a file format that Adobe itself created.  I can assure you this will lead many Blackmagic users (and there will be many) away from Premiere. A stable cinemDNG plugin or update for Premiere CS6 should be a TOP priority.

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 10:04 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Yes we all would like cinemadng support in Adobe Premiere.

     
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    Sep 3, 2012 5:20 AM   in reply to snikadecon

    I bump for a CinemaDNG plugin as well, will prove extremely useful primarily when the Blackmagic Cinema Camera is released, the plugin may even end up being a selling point for indie filmmakers who have bought the camera and are looking for an editor that can handle such amazing images, Well, there's my contribution

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 5:09 AM   in reply to dvcinlv

    Looking forward to the CinemaDNGplugin. Moving from Final Cut to MediaComposer or Premiere would help to make a decision. Hopefully this is not a battle between Black Magic and Adobe, we need both . This was another contribution.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 5:46 AM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Are you getting enough responses now to peak your interests? CinemaDNG is an Adobe file format that is now begining to become much more popular now due to the Blackmagic Design Cinema Camera. More Support for this file format frome those who created the file format would be greatly appreciated.

     

    Also any acknowledgement from you all would be appreciated. You were quick to say there is not enough response for any real real response. So now that yu are getting responses we would like to know that you are taking our requests seriously.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 6:15 AM   in reply to dvcinlv

    Yes please, proper support for Cinema DNG. There will soon be a broad user range.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 12:14 PM   in reply to Michael Stip

    I purchased CS6 at NAB after speaking with an Adobe rep in the booth about support for Cinema DNG.  Very disappointed that Adobe who invented the format is not supporting it in Premiere.  My Blackmagic Cameras will soon be here.  Hopefully the powers at Adobe will correct this situation before the cameras arrive.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 1:03 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Me too! Consider this an expression of my interest in Cinema DNG support in Premiere Pro and After Effects.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 1:56 PM   in reply to DuffyShanley

    > Me too! Consider this an expression of my interest in Cinema DNG support in Premiere Pro and After Effects.

     

    You can already use CinemaDNG files in After Effects. CinemaDNG comes through the Camera Raw plug-in, which is included in every version of After Effects for the past several years.

     

    However, the performance is very poor. In fact, it's the very poor performance of CinemaDNG files that has thus far prevented the Premiere Pro team from implementing this. We After Effects users are more tolerant of slow rendering for things such as compositing/VFX work, but the poor performance makes the format essentially unusable (so far) for Premiere Pro.

     

    If enough people submit feature requests to the Premiere Pro team to work on this, then they may determine that it's worth the extra work of trying to make it work faster.

     
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    Sep 27, 2012 1:45 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Must have CinemaDNG support.  A serious MUST! 

     
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    Sep 27, 2012 2:36 PM   in reply to Todd_Kopriva

    Using AfterEffects for RAW timelapse rendering I know how slow it is with CameraRAW ... (ok, to be fair 24 MP is a bit more than the Cinema Camera)

     

    Maybe you (Adobe) should talk to the Blackmagic Guys. With Resolve I get a decent 16-18 FPS with footage from the Blackmagic on my Retina MBP. Haven't tried with DNG timelapse sequence yet, maybe I should test how it performs with them if it's able to read them. Even if it's impractical for cool timelapse-processing working with Lightroom + After Effects but to see how fast it is.

     
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    Sep 28, 2012 6:56 AM   in reply to dvcinlv

    Adobe, it is a very big mystake to discontinue suppor for CinemaDNG.  There are thousounds of camera owners who's camera's use theCinemaDNG file format, including new BMCC cameras that haven't even reached it's users yet.  We need you to continue support for CinemaDNG.

     
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    Sep 28, 2012 2:53 PM   in reply to RePixelated

    That post on the Adobe Labs blog about CinemaDNG was very misleading. To clear things up, I wrote this blog post about CinemaDNG in After Effects, Photoshop, and SpeedGrade CS6 (and how Premiere Pro fits in the picture):

    http://adobe.ly/QwJoMU

     
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