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Need advice on graffics card upgrade for use of CS6 Mercury Playback in PR & AE w/ dell xps 9100

May 30, 2012 12:23 AM

I am curretly running CS6 on my dell xps 9100

Windows 7 64bit
12GB Ram

2TB HD + 0 Rate 2TB External Drive (x2)

  • Intel Core i7 930 operating at 2.8 gigahertz with an 8-megabyte cache.

  Memory and Storage  

  • The Studio XPS 9100 can be equipped with up to 24 gigabytes of RAM. It uses Tri-Channel DDR3 SDRAM operating at 1333 megahertz. The computer has six DIMMs into which RAM can be plugged. The Studio XPS 9100 may have a hard disk size of up to 2000 gigabytes using SATA drives operating at 7200 rpm.

Video

  • ATI Radeon HD5870 with 1024 megabytes of RAM

  Expansion and Networking  

  • The Studio XPS 9100 has one PCI slot, three PCIe x1 slots, one PCIe x8 slot and one PCIe X16 slot. It has four USB 2.0 ports, a 15-in-1 card reader, a headphone port and a microphone port on the front panel. The rear ports into an IEEE 1394a port, surround-sound audio ports, four USB 2.0 ports, one eSATA port, an S/PDIF port and HDMI ports. It has integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit LAN through the RJ45 port on the back with optional internal Wireless-N. PCI card slot (PCI_1) 26
  • PCI Express x1 card slot (PCIE1X3)
  • PCI Express x16 card slot (PCIE16_1)
  • PCI Express x1 card slot (PCIE1X2)
  • PCI Express x1 card slot (PCIE1X1)
  • PCI Express x8 card slot (PCIE8_2)

  Chassis and Power  

  • The Studio XPS 9100 is 19.4 inches high by 7.8 inches wide by 20.7 inches deep. It weighs about 40 pounds. A 525-watt power supply powers the computer.

 

 

 

 

I use Audition, Premiere Pro and After Effects (Dynamic Link) to edit concerts filmed on 4 HD Camera's (m2ts x3 and mp4) I also take and mix 6-8 tracks from soundboard and mix in audition. I find my system is struggling to keep up when I have done some color correction and then try to cut in multi-cam mode. My graphics card does not support CUDA and as stated above my system only has a 525w power supply. So a GeForce GTX 470, 570, 580 would not be compatable. I do not GAME but I work with large HD files (4 angles, 1-2 hours each, audio & effects).

 

My trouble is I don't know which one of the graffics cards that support Mercury play back, would be the best for my needs without having to upgrade my power source (if possable). I'm thinking a mid level card and another 8-12 ram upgrade would be more suited (and cheaper) to my needs, unless I'm going to need a power upgrade anyway. If someone could please let me know what card would help me with my worload of these that would be great! I guess what Im saying is can someone tell me which of these is compatable with my system and is it worth it for the change in performance I will see?

  • GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and Mac OS)
  • GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
  • GeForce GTX 570 (Windows)
  • GeForce GTX 580 (Windows)
  • NVIDIA® Tesla C2075 card (Windows) when paired with a Quadro card as part of an NVIDIA Maximus™ configuration
  • Quadro FX 3700M (Windows)
  • Quadro FX 3800 (Windows)
  • Quadro FX 3800M (Windows)
  • Quadro FX 4800 (Windows and Mac OS)
  • Quadro FX 5800 (Windows)
  • Quadro 2000 (Windows)
  • Quadro 2000D (Windows)
  • Quadro 2000M (Windows)
  • Quadro 3000M (Windows)
  • Quadro 4000 (Windows and Mac OS)
  • Quadro 4000M (Windows)
  • Quadro 5000 (Windows)
  • Quadro 5000M (Windows)
  • Quadro 5010M (Windows)
  • Quadro 6000 (Windows)
  • Quadro CX (Windows)
  • Tesla C2075** (Windows)
1430 Views   10 Replies   Latest reply: bernard_black, Jun 3, 2012 4:58 PM
 
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  • Harm Millaard
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    1. Harm Millaard,
    May 30, 2012 2:58 AM   in reply to RampantSlime
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    I would look at the GTX 670 because of your PSU and then apply the 'hack'. It will probably give you the best bang-for-the-buck BFTB.

     
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  • Jeff Bellune
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    2. Jeff Bellune,
    May 30, 2012 4:14 AM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    [Moved to hardware forum]

     
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  • R4yMoNd
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    3. R4yMoNd,
    Jun 2, 2012 8:44 PM   in reply to RampantSlime
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    get the 560Ti, 570 or 580 Nvidia Graphics.. choose any of it which suit your budget, and update to the latest driver, apply the hack. it will work with cuda

     

    Spare some to spend on hard drive so you have additional hard drive (7200rpm, 10.000, 15.000, or SSD) whichever suits you. to work on your big file.

    and yeah, make sure it's separated from your operating system a 120GB SSD for your OS and Application should make your system run faster..

     
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  • RampantSlime
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    Jun 3, 2012 11:22 AM   in reply to R4yMoNd
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    Right now I can get a 570 for 175 bucks... R4yMoNd. When I look at the 570 in comparison  to what I have it doesnt look as though itis going to make too much difference. http://www.hwcompare.com/9048/geforce-gtx-570-vs-radeon-hd-5870/ I'm sure however the CUDA cores will speed it right up. I'm no good when it comes to all that so thanks to both you for the help. I have tracked down a 670 in stock (seems tough) for $440 then I need a 700 w power supply for about 70. If the 570 should take care of the problems listed above thats what I'm going for.. Just wasnt sure if it would make the needed difference

     
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  • Harm Millaard
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    5. Harm Millaard,
    Jun 3, 2012 11:38 AM   in reply to RampantSlime
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    Any 5xx nVidia card requires more juice than a 6xx card. That is why I don't understand R4... whatever his name is, suggestion.

     
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    Jun 3, 2012 1:40 PM   in reply to Harm Millaard
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    Also dont understand the crack your talking about the only one i am familiar with is adding your graph card to the list of supported cards.... R4 recomends a hack but the 570 and 580 are already supported, what hack do you mean? Think Im going with the 670. Birthday is this week might get some extra $ to throw at the 670

     
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  • Bill Gehrke
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    7. Bill Gehrke,
    Jun 3, 2012 1:41 PM   in reply to RampantSlime
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    Harm is correctg.  A standard GTX 570 draws 219 watts, a standard GTX 670 takes 170 watts.  I cannot understand why people that do not know what they are talking about have to give out misleading information.

     
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    8. RampantSlime,
    Jun 3, 2012 1:47 PM   in reply to Bill Gehrke
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    I was speaking with my friend who will be installing the card in my system he is a computer tech but does more storage and back up than graphics. He said with the 670 I could try running it off my current 525W power source but somewhere down the line my power source will crap out on me from being put to the limit.. figure a 700 W supply is just the way to go. By no means do I have a bunch of cash to throw at the problem but I would rather do it right this time, then spemd even more money next year for another minor upgrade

     
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  • John T Smith
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    9. John T Smith,
    Jun 3, 2012 4:03 PM   in reply to RampantSlime
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    Power supply calculator http://extreme.outervision.com/index.jsp (the PRO version)

     
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  • bernard_black
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    10. bernard_black,
    Jun 3, 2012 4:58 PM   in reply to Bill Gehrke
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    If one is stuck on CS5.5 and has saved every last penny for a new workstation...should one get a 5xx card or 6xx card? Correct me if I'm wrong, but adobe will not be updating CS5.5 now that 6 is out; so official Kepler support in CS5.5 is an impossibility? Premiere CS5.5 will play ball if the 'hack' is utilized, but is AE CS5.5 fully functional with a Kepler card?

     

    Apologies for what might seem a dumb question. Often I find myself in the dark, feeling around for the light switch. Plus I don't want to buy a 2 year old card!

     

    Many thanks

     
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