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CS6 Mouse Wheel Scrolling for Fonts in Character Panel

Jun 1, 2012 4:58 AM

Tags: #illustrator #photoshop #fonts #font #not #working #mouse #scroll #character #cs6 #broken #wheel #family

in Illustrator CS6 I can no longer use my mouse wheel to scroll the list of fonts [which appear when you click the down arrow next to the font family] in the Character control panel. I could do this in CS5.

 

Anyone know how to fix this? I think it dos not work in Photoshop CS6 either.

 
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  • Ivan David
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    Jun 1, 2012 6:45 AM   in reply to gcsdets

    Hi gcsdets,

     

    That is odd, indeed. I just checked - and I am able to click the down arrow key and scroll through the list of fonts. I hope more folks comment, just to be sure if I checked your question out correctly.

     

    May I ask you try something? Select the text that you have typed, hover your mouse on the Font drop down (in the Control Panel), and scroll. You can scroll through the list of fonts, while previewing how the text will look.

     

    Cheers,

    David

     
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    Jun 1, 2012 8:27 AM   in reply to gcsdets

    Hi gcsdets,

     

    Oops! I saw control panel, and did not see the 'Character' in front of it. I have just checked with CS5.1 and CS6, and it looks like the way that drop down works in CS6 has changed indeed. Sorry, can't help you there. But as soon as I hear something about how to scroll through the list of fonts in the Character panel, I will update this thread.

     

    Cheers,

    David

     
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    Jul 23, 2012 6:11 PM   in reply to Ivan David

    Ivan David,

     

    Please see that this scrolling behavior is fixed.  It's really unusable at present.  Also when a text object is selected, and you choose the drop down font list in character panel, the list does not position itself in a useful way.  The current font should appear right next to the drop down arrow -- as it is currently it can be up high, or down low or totally off the screen.  See attached -- the current font "Black Adder" isn't even visible on the list that pops up when hitting the drop down arrow.

     

    Illustrator didn't used to act this way and the font list is plain awful to use in its current implementation.

     

    ai cs6 font list useless.jpg

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 7:33 AM   in reply to gcsdets

    This is primarily how I browsed fonts in older versions of Illustrator, so it's frustrating that this has changed in CS6. Hopefully they will patch this soon.

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 8:29 AM   in reply to nicknameforme

    nicknameforme wrote:

     

    Ivan David,

     

    Please see that this scrolling behavior is fixed.  It's really unusable at present.  Also when a text object is selected, and you choose the drop down font list in character panel, the list does not position itself in a useful way.  The current font should appear right next to the drop down arrow -- as it is currently it can be up high, or down low or totally off the screen.  See attached -- the current font "Black Adder" isn't even visible on the list that pops up when hitting the drop down arrow.

     

    Illustrator didn't used to act this way and the font list is plain awful to use in its current implementation...

     

    I'm using CS5 on Windows, and that font menu has always behaved as described above. The font of the selected text object is never aligned to the mouse cursor, most of the time it is off screen because the menu remembers and shows its previous position. So if you select fonts that are on different parts of the list they could be off screen. I never use the mouse scroll will, I use a digital pen with its buttons set to do other things. When I use this font menu and the used font is not in view I look in the control bar at the top of the screen to see the first letter of the name of the font and type it on my keyboard, this will scroll the list and position it with fonts starting with this letter at top or bottom of the menu and then I use the up and down arrows on my keyboard to scroll the menu.

     
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    Aug 28, 2012 9:08 AM   in reply to emil emil

    What is the point of your message? I don't know if it behaved this way in CS5 -- I don't remember it doing so -- but even if it did.  So what?  The point is that the menu is completely unintuitive, unusable and poorly designed.

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 7:10 AM   in reply to davemakes

    Latest update fixed the scrolling issue. Thanks, hard working Adobe folks!

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 9:56 AM   in reply to nicknameforme

    nicknameforme wrote:

     

    What is the point of your message? I don't know if it behaved this way in CS5 -- I don't remember it doing so -- but even if it did.  So what?  The point is that the menu is completely unintuitive, unusable and poorly designed.

    Well, I'm surprised that my point was not obvious to you but you made a wrong statement "Illustrator didn't used to act this way". This makes  a big difference in how this problem is addressed - one thing is fixing a bug or something that has been broken which usually Adobe tries to fix and another thing is  improved user experience or a feature request which usually Adobe don't address.

    I agree with your point that the font menu is poorly designed, so, the point of the rest of my message explaining how I use the font menu may be useful for those struggling with the current poor design.

     

    edit: just to add something that some may not know. You can get access to the font menu by right clicking on a text object - you don't need the Character panel open.

    In fact, initially I thought this is the font menu in question accessed by right click and the problem that the font of the currently selected text is not aligned with the position fo the mouse cursor which is the same problem with accessing the font menu from the Character panel.

     
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    Sep 10, 2012 7:12 PM   in reply to davemakes

    Still not wheel-scrolling in the fonts list for me as of today, with 16.0.1 and all of Adobe App Manager's recent updates.

     

    Neither does it work in the Window dropdown menu, which is just long enough not to fit vertically on my laptop display (15.6", 1366x768). Being forced to click multiple times on the little black triangle just to access the full menu is a bit annoying. At least you can text-search for a font, if you know its name.

     
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    Sep 12, 2012 3:14 PM   in reply to davemakes

    Just realized this was fixed in Photoshop, not Illustrator. Would be nice to have this function the same in both.

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 11:07 AM   in reply to davemakes

    Yes, this problem still exists in the Mac Illustrator CS6.  When you right click the text and choose "Font" which opens up all of your fonts, the list starts at the top of your screen listing your fonts alpabetically.  You can then scroll down with your mouse to choose a font towards the bottom of the list, say "Futura", select it and now your text has changed.  Here is the problem, when you reselect the text you just changed, it presents the font list, starting at the top again, alphabetically.  So if you wanted a font just below Futura, you have to scroll all the way back down, when you shouldn't have to.  In windows, the font list pops back up and your selected text font is the first one to the right.  This is the way it should work on the Mac.

     

    One sidenote, in windows it doesn't "wheel scroll" through the list like the mac, you have to push the buttons at the bottom, which is slower....maybe that is the trade off for the scroll mouse on the mac??

     
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    Sep 26, 2012 11:43 AM   in reply to Limbo Design

    Limbo Design wrote:

     

    ....

     

    One sidenote, in windows it doesn't "wheel scroll" through the list like the mac, you have to push the buttons at the bottom, which is slower....maybe that is the trade off for the scroll mouse on the mac??

    As I said before, you can hold the up or down arrows on your keyboard to scroll the font list which is not slow at all.  In fact I prefer it this way because I don't use a mouse, and because it highlights the font you are about to apply when you press the Enter key. And for faster navigation you can press a letter on your keyboard to jump to that part of the alphabetical font list.

     
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    Oct 27, 2012 1:13 PM   in reply to emil emil

    I realize this thread is a month old, but has anyone found a fix for this?  I just downloaded CS6 (CC version, had CS3 forever).  Using Win 7 64 bit, fairly new PC.  I posted here, http://forums.adobe.com/message/4805176#4805176  but have not found a resolution as of yet. 

     

    Character Pallet - no scrolling, no keying, no typing a font letter to jump.  nothing works

    Top Panel (control panel?) - has a scroll bar, can key font letter, scroll, or use my keyboard arrow keys...all works fine.

     

    Been Googling over and over and only see a couple topic without firm fixes...

     
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    Jan 17, 2013 4:04 PM   in reply to gcsdets

    I find it somewhat pathetic that this is still not "fixed" or added.  Do the program teams even talk to one another to make sure experiences are common among Adobe programs or as common as possible without detriment?  Common sense or deduction would say no seeing that Illustrator still does not even have right click copy or past like almost every other Adobe program.

     
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    Feb 20, 2013 1:11 AM   in reply to gcsdets

    Changing your screen resolution should solve the problem.

    This solution came to me while I was messing around with my screen setting with my CS6 on.

    After few more testing, it turned out that for my paticular monitor, any screen resolution setting larger than 1152x864(not included) would get me mouse scrolling option for font choosing. It looks like this font-example.jpg

    anything smaller than 1152x864(included) would not open the mouse scrolling optionfont-example2.jpg

    Never mind the tradition Chinese in the pictures.

     

    I am using a monitor that can handle screen resolution up to 1280 x 1024, and I am using a built in graphic chip set with window xp.

     
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    Feb 20, 2013 5:44 AM   in reply to peacelove70

    To clarify things: there are three different lists of fonts in AI: the one in the Control Panel at the top of your screen, the other in the Character Panel and the one in Type menu. The first works well, but the two other are misbehaving, and these are those that display useful font samples. You can have either a working drop-down list _or_ list of font samples; never both. It is simply immature solution; advertised as interface improvement (http://helpx.adobe.com/content/help/en/illustrator/using/ui-interface. html), but apparently not finished yet. Or such are current coding standards in Adobe.

    BTW: As Ryan A. said it is a shame for Adobe that the two teams (Photoshop and AI) simply do not talk to each other. I use Photoshop CS6 with **delight** and AI CS6 with increasing frustration. NO interface improvements from Photoshop seem to be known to Illustrator team. Where is this long forgotten Adobe Common Interface idea? e.g.: Why I can set scroll wheel to zoom in Photoshop, but have to Alt-scroll in AI? Is that _so_ difficult to apply similar solution? Hey, guys, go have some beer together.

     
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    Feb 20, 2013 3:44 PM   in reply to Piotr_K_jr

    My screen resolution is 1920x1080 and I still have no scroll option in the Character pallet.  SO frustrating.  I end up using WORD to create my text and scroll through the font samples.

     
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    Feb 21, 2013 5:08 AM   in reply to motoxchic00

    Use CorelDRAW instead ;-).

     
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    Mar 19, 2013 1:19 PM   in reply to Piotr_K_jr

    You are abolutely correct, the 3 ways to access fonts never get you to how YOU want it to work. This is rediculous. If it worked in CS3, 4, 5 ... WTF for CS6??? ..... Has anyone found a solution?

     
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    Mar 29, 2013 3:54 PM   in reply to gcsdets

    Here is the solution for CS6 Illustrator:

     

    1. Select what you typed by double-clicking in the type box and then highlighting all of the letters you wish to change.

    2. Highlight the Character name in the menu bar box by clicking in the box so the cursor appears, holding the left mouse button down, and highlighting the character name (see menu bar box below, highlighted in blue)

    Highlight.JPG

     

    3. Use your up/down arrows or scroll wheel on your mouse to scroll through the various fonts and see what you typed change accordingly.

     

    Enjoy!

     
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    Mar 29, 2013 4:17 PM   in reply to SkyyGirl2020

    Yes, that would probably be more of a work around, not necessarily a solution (?).  That is fine if you want to scroll font by font and yes, it works.  But its nice to scroll through a screen full of fonts at once.  Better yet, a built in option that not only shows you many fonts (in their font) at once, but in the text you have typed/highlighted.

     
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    May 17, 2013 7:45 AM   in reply to SkyyGirl2020

    That works until you hit a font that's not set up correctly. Then the scrolling slides to a grinding halt. It's a barely working workaround for a feature I'm astounded is missing. I have CS6 (Creative Cloud) on my Mac and everything works spiffy. At work I have Windows 7 64 bit and CS6, and it's HORRIFIC. I prefer to use the Character Menu font menu because I can see a bunch of font previews at once. I've got entirely too many fonts on my machine to scroll through that list one by one, especially at its glacial pace. It's infuriating. Hell, I'd take a scroll bar on the right side, and there's not even that! It's completely unusable, and tacks on a CONSIDERABLE amount of time to my workflow.

     
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    May 17, 2013 1:47 PM   in reply to chirm.er

    Adobe doesn't care.  They've known about the problem for about a year.  They don't believe in fixing flawed irritating bugs in their software.  They added a huge headachey feature into After Effects CS6... and they know about it for almost as long and haven't fixed that either.

     

    It's the magic power of a monopoly... just pay your subscription fees and be quiet.  That's how they like it.

     
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    May 19, 2013 9:00 AM   in reply to nicknameforme

    "Adobe doesn't care. It's the magic power of a monopoly... just pay your subscription fees and be quiet.  That's how they like it."

     

    +1

     
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    Nov 28, 2013 8:51 AM   in reply to SkyyGirl2020

    Thank you SkyyGirl2020.

     

    Thiis is exactly what I was looking for. I know it's maybe not what the others are looking for but it was how I was doing it in previous versions (and Corel Draw as well). Although in those I just picked the down arrow next to the font, then hover your mouse over the font and then you could use your arrow up or arrow down to have the different fonts change your highlighted text. But this works too.

     

    Thanks

    again for posting.

     
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