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How can I create a Online Store using Muse?

Jun 12, 2012 11:26 PM

Tags: #store #muse #online

How can I create a Online Store using Muse?

I have been looking around for solutions but I can't find one.

I was just hoping that someone else might have known of a way.

 

 

Thanks!

7646 Views   14 Replies   Latest reply: charlie544, Apr 4, 2013 3:53 PM
 
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  • Cristian Radu.
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    1. Cristian Radu.,
    Jun 13, 2012 2:35 AM   in reply to celum20
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    Hey,

     

    Unfortunately at this time in Muse alone there's no plug-in for a shopping cart. However it depends wether you prefer to publish the site on an individual server or host it with Business Catalyst.

    If you prefer hosting the site with BC you can opt in for a webCommerce plan that will include the ecommerce (http://www.adobe.com/products/business-catalyst/buying-guide-subscript ions.html) and you'll be able to use the Object > insert HTML... and paste the code for catalogs and products (this is just a test: http://screencasteu.worldsecuresystems.com/Cristi/2012-06-13_1209.png).

    Publishing the page from Muse with the inserted code for a catalog containing a product will work properly: http://screencasteu.worldsecuresystems.com/Cristi/2012-06-13_1210.swf

    Second option, if you choose to host your site on your own server, you can search for alternatives like: http://kb.ecwid.com/w/page/49244914/Adobe%20Muse or any other online cart solution that can be implemented using the "insert HTML..." option from Muse.

     

    I hope this helps.

    Cristian

     
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  • celum20
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    2. celum20,
    Jun 13, 2012 10:34 AM   in reply to Cristian Radu.
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    Hi,

     

    Thank you Cristian! This was very helpful.

     

    Can you tell me if there is a way to test the Eccommerce function in combo with muse before purchasing the full plan?

     
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  • craft76 design
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    3. craft76 design,
    Jun 13, 2012 3:29 PM   in reply to Cristian Radu.
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    Cristian, is there a more detailed description of using BC and Muse for the ecommerce?  Your description seems different than importing the muse files into BC.  Do you create a fake site in BC in order to Insert the HTML in muse?  I'm confused as you can see.  It seems that one has to use the BC CMS in order to utilize ecommerce but your suggestion seems like a different approach.  Can you say anymore or point me towards more detail?

     

    Thanks

     

    Jason

     
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  • grayrockgraphics
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    4. grayrockgraphics,
    Jun 13, 2012 5:09 PM   in reply to Cristian Radu.
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    Yes, I need to do this as well.  Is there more information or a tutorial or video that will help with implementing this? I am gaining speed with Muse and love it despite its current limitations and crashes, but I don't know a thing about using BC. I (and my client) am prepared to purchase the BC eCommerce plan, just don't know how to start...

    thanks,

     
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  • Cristian Radu.
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    5. Cristian Radu.,
    Jun 20, 2012 3:39 AM   in reply to celum20
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    Hello celum20,

     

    Sites published with Muse are on a webBasics plan, however you can contact BC support and ask to change the site plan from webBasics to webCommerce, the plan that includes e-commerce so you can test it out. (plans are available here: http://www.adobe.com/products/business-catalyst/buying-guide-subscript ions.html )

     

    To submit a case and request the plan upgrade click on Manage while on Muse and with the project opened, then on the opening page that takes you into the admin console of your site published on BC, click on the top right corner button "Help and Support", from there click on "Submit a case".

     

     

    Cheers,
    Cristian

     

    Please review the answer provided to grayrockgraphics also, you may prefer that option.

     

    Message was edited by: Cristian Radu.

     
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  • Cristian Radu.
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    6. Cristian Radu.,
    Jun 20, 2012 2:30 AM   in reply to craft76 design
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    Hey craft76 design,

     

    I'm not taking the files generated within Muse and modify in BC because if you don't use the "Insert HTML..." option within Muse you'll have to always keep you code in a different file and when you publish your page you'll have to insert the code again vs. using the "insert HTML..." option that will keep the code within Muse project and when you export the file it will contain the code so you won't have to re-insert the code. The code I insert is on a page I create in BC but then cut or copy and paste in Muse, so not really a fake site but a page that I use simply for that purpose. Because the site will be publishe in BC will know how to render all tags / modules that you use.

    Unfortunately I'm not aware of any demo on how to implement ecommerce within Muse but will look for one and get back with more details if it exists.

     
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  • Cristian Radu.
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    7. Cristian Radu.,
    Jun 20, 2012 3:38 AM   in reply to grayrockgraphics
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    Hi grayrockgraphics,

     

    At this moment the best option for you would be to create a test site but using Business Catalyst and not Muse.

    When you have published your first BC site, a free partner portal has been generated for you. As a Creative Cloud user, you do not need it, as all your BC sites are listed in Creative Cloud.

    Your free partner portal can be reached using www.businesscatalyst.com/partnerportal and your AdobeID & password. In there you will find all your temporary/live sites under Clients tab, and you can use the button "create new site" to create an WebCommerce site.

    This site you will create will show up when you will choose to publish from Muse in the list of the available sites. From partner portal you can also select under the Clients tab the site you want to update, click on it and select "Upgrade Site", choose the payyment method and plan and that should be all.

     

    I hope this will potin you in the right direction of starting with BC.

     
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  • grayrockgraphics
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    8. grayrockgraphics,
    Jun 20, 2012 12:20 PM   in reply to Cristian Radu.
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    Hello Cristian,

    Thank you so much for your responses. Actually I am still pretty confused with using BC. I can't seem to access many features at all from the BC Admin Console via the "Alpha Preview of the new File Manager." For example, I'm trying to create a Contact Form in BC to insert  into Muse. I know could do that a few weeks ago, but now I can't find anything in BC.

     

    But my bigger concern is the issue at hand, eCommerce. Just to clarify celem20's question in #2, I would have to upgrade and purchase a webCommerce plan, just to see the features - no "trial" or anything?

     

    And in your response #7, actually I have just spent the last two months building a large Muse site (over 60 pages), lots of features, kinda neat, client is happy, me too. So I don't want to create a new test site. I just want to incorporate  ecommerce (and email and contact database, and all other BC features that made us choose BC in the first place) into Muse. I think you response #1 above (Object > Insert HTML) is what I am needing, but I am so confused about how to go about it.  All the BC tutorials and videos are based on using just BC, not already having a Muse site.  It's like I don't even know where to start.  As I said, the Admin Console doesn't seem to let me even create a Contact Form to insert, let alone ecommerce.

     

    I understand I won't be editing files in BC, because they won't round-trip back to Muse; that is fine and good.

     

    I find it strange that Muse sites are really being encouraged (forced?) to be hosted on BC, yet there doesn't seem to be any documentation on how to integrate the two. Maybe this is just beyond my abilities....

     
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  • Cristian Radu.
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    9. Cristian Radu.,
    Jun 22, 2012 1:24 AM   in reply to grayrockgraphics
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    Since you can access the Alpha File Manager it means the option to "Enable online content editing (incompatible with Muse)" is ticked up under your profile details. With this enabled you can create Web Forms under Site Manager. Once you create the contact form open the Alpha File Manager (AFM), select the page where you want to insert this and choose the Web Forms from the right hand column. On the pop-up window select the web form to insert and click Insert.

     

    Regarding the upgrade, as long as the site is in trial mode you can choose any plan for the site, see my answer #7. Create a new trial site, choose the link to the new trial site created from PP and publish your site there for testing purposes so you will have ecommerce included and available for you to try out.

    If things go well you can request an upgrade to your current site to have the ecommerce included (the only situation in which this upgrade won't be available is when the site is published on one of the 5 sites received with the CCM subscription, they are webBasics and cannot be upgraded: http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/publish-anywhere.html under "Publish websites" section, and the option will be to create the site from partner portal and publish the content from Muse)

     

    At this moment indeed there's little documentation on how to integrate the two but this is because Muse is just not ready to take advantage of BC capabilities. It was never intended for CMS features of BC to be available in version 1 of Muse. This has already been mentioned a few times (one relevant example: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4355214#4355214#4355214)

     

    Regards,
    Cristian

     
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  • GVD321
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    Jun 23, 2012 9:14 AM   in reply to Cristian Radu.
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    This has been a good thread to read thru and remind myself of BC. Like grayrockgraphics, I've been plugging along with Muse for enough time now, but have yet intergrated it with BC. I haven't had the desire or need, but would obviously like to understand the workflow so that I can determine if it's a viable option.

     

    I believe the whole scenario can be a bit misleading to the average user.
    What I mean is, from the get go BC is pushed as a hosting platform.
    Fine.
    From that pt on it's natural to want to look into the other fts of BC (CMS etc) to leverage it's worth in the users particular circumstance. Your "moneys" worth.
    Christian, I understand and thank you for your additional input and links (reminders) on the matter of CMS.

     

    "It was never intended for CMS features of BC to be available in version 1 of Muse."

     

    However, when we have links, such as the following...

    http://tv.adobe.com/watch/muse-feature-tour/muse-advanced-cms-integrat ion/

     

    ... which have been around since Aug 2011, you can see why it's easy for users to think (hope) that some of the points covered in this thread would have been covered by the time the paid Version 1 release.

     

    I look forward to the day when we have this all worked out.

    Until then, I'm afraid I'll have to keep it simple with other optsions for myself as well as my clients.

     
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  • GVD321
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    11. GVD321,
    Jun 24, 2012 7:23 AM   in reply to celum20
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    And Voila, Steve's ears were burning.

    Here's another example similar to the link above (Ecwid.com) that Christian provided.

    http://www.muse-themes.com/blogs/news/6188402-creating-an-online-store -ecommerce-in-adobe-muse-video-training

     

    Tested it and works just as descibed.
    BC - Are you watching?

     

    While your there, check out some of Steve's other useful tips.
    Thanks Steve.

     
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  • grayrockgraphics
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    12. grayrockgraphics,
    Jun 24, 2012 8:02 AM   in reply to GVD321
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    Hi GVD and Cristian

    Thank you both so much for your replies.  Been on the road till Monday, but can't wait to get back and try out these links and ideas. I just need to invest some real quality time online with BC, forums, tutorials. Feeling less frustrated already.

    Manana....

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    gg

     
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  • JamesELudy
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    13. JamesELudy,
    Jan 8, 2013 11:25 AM   in reply to Cristian Radu.
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    Isn't this something that should have been made available before the software was even released? Seems kind of "Mickey Mouse" to have a "workaround" for the most basic of services since, I would assume that a majority of websites would need this kind of service to complete the package. Maybe I'm wrong. Your thoughts?

     
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  • charlie544
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    14. charlie544,
    Apr 4, 2013 3:53 PM   in reply to GVD321
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    i dont know why but is not working on mi site, anyone can help me???

     
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