Please put the font selection menu in the Character tool panel back the way it was in CS5, where it showed a dozen or so fonts in the drop-down and I could actually scroll through the list with the mouse scroll wheel or the dropdown's scrollbar -- exactly as the one in the quick Control toolbar at the top works (why are they even different?) -- instead of this horror-show font menu that opens up the entire height of my monitor and has to be navigated by moving all the way to the edges and watching it scroll hair-pullingly slow.
Even more maddening, when you select a text object and then click the dropdown, the font menu is just centered (or something) in the ENTIRE list of fonts, so I have to scroll 3 pages up (about 10 seconds of fonts clicking by) just to get to the one I've already got selected in the A's.
I remember this terrible font menu appeared for a version of Photoshop many years ago and thankfully they changed it back. But I guess we're going back to the future now this time with Illustrator.
Is there a preference I'm missing? This is such a counter-productive change.
It works fine for me both the ways. I can scroll in newer way of font menu in character panel as well, whereas I can still access font through scrolling directly in character panel. I am not sre what is causing issue at your end, but it seems working fine for me with new Illustrator. And even I liked the new way of font listing, where I can even access it right from Character Panel.
I've been trying to track down an answer for that myself! What the heck is that?? It's ridiculous. Plus, if I'm at the top of the font list, I don't have 10 extra minutes to scroll down to the bottom - geesh. Guess I'll have to change my long aquired habits and use the menu at the top of the workspace. ugh.
DITTO, idolum. Having the font list this way makes it pretty much useless.
Adobe: FIX IT! I'm a graphic designer, and I have hundreds of fonts on my computer. Making me slow-scroll through them with those idiotic little arrows is not helpful, it is a *&^%$#@! nuisance. Put a proper scroll bar in there -- and if I have some text selected, it ought to open on the relevant font, not the top of the whole damned list.
The character panel in Illustrator is plain abysmal. In addition to all things that have already been said, I would like to mention that scrolling through fonts with arrow keys on the keyboard is completely broken: when I select a font, lets say American Typewriter, and use the down arrow key, it gets changed to the next font on my list (Andale Mono). But if I press the down key again, nothing happens. In this case I can only shuffle between those two fonts.
But when I select Arial from the drop-down menu and then use the down arrow key, it allows me to shuffle between 15 fonts (up to Courier New in my case) and then stops again. So in order for me to choose a font for my text, I have to use both -- mouse and keyboard -- in order to jump up or down those stops.
And when you bump into fonts that don't support some particular characters I have in my text (although, it does support it in other CS apps, like Photoshop), I loose all the ability to choose that font all together.
Another regression is that when you click in value boxes pretty much everywhere (font size, stroke weight, kerning, color values, etc.) the existing value isn't auto-selected, so you can't just click in your font size and type in 70 like you could before to replace whatever was there. Now you have to click, hit Ctrl-A to select all (or backspace/delete to wipe out everything) and then enter your new value.
Before if you'd click in a value box it'd automatically be selected, and then if you clicked again (or tapped the left or right arrow key) you'd get a cursor if it was something you wanted to add on to/add on before for some reason.
This was also regressed in Photoshop and is a massive annoyance there because if you go into Transform to scale something and just want to click and type in "200" for 200%, you wind up entering something like "12000" or "200100" or something depending on where you happened to click.
After Effects' value boxes continue to work as they should, auto-selecting when you click, manual entry when you click again (or arrow key.)
I thought font handling in Fireworks was bad but to implement this UI interface for fonts in your flagship illustration product is barmy!! Please revert back to CS5 implementation for fonts...
I mean who's bright idea was it to allow you to select a font and then when you select the list again for it not to be highlighted as the selected font!
In fact, I see what you've done now, you swapped the functionality between the panel and the shortcut font selector.. Bah!
Why oh why change things when they work fine!!
I strongly agree with this suggestion and as CS6 has been in use for some time now surprised this hasn't been corrected yet. Although the arrow keys function they do take too long to scroll through when dealing with 100s of fonts, especially at the set speed. This applies to both areas where the fonts are housed. the faster scroll is preferred but even a stacked horizontal fly-out would be better than the current arrows. Over a year of work this will consumer hours and days of time which is costly. I have found the same problem in that I can type in a name or a letter and it will place a font in the meny but when the menu is opened you are not taken to the area of the font that is cuurently in place. Also this defeats the purpose of even having the font dispaly if it takes too long too scroll through to view them. Please add back in the scroll bar option as soon as possible.
I'm so glad I found this thread! In some way I'm glad it's not just me that finds the font system in illustrator completely and utterly infuriating.
This program is 25 years old, any other software house would be bending over backwards to make their program the best it can be and this is the system they're happy to let users struggle through? It's unbelievable.
It's not like it's a donationware program wrtitten by a single developer.
I think Adobe should be embarrassed with the functionality of their program. I watched a few videos on the new features of CS6 and it was basically people saying 'this function is a bit better than it used to be' going crazy over breadcrumbs.
I've seen 'Adobe will not admit they're wrong/have any weakness' a few times here and there, well it's about time they started listening to the people that have to work with their program because it's not good enough.
I don't expect to have to wait whilst the fonts slowly tick by and with them moments of our lives, it's a major inconvenience. I don't expect to have to click random places on my screen to get rid of a pop up/drop down menu, the program should know that if I have been adjusting a value and then click on the direct selection tool I want the direct selection tool, close the entry box instantly.
Why do I have to double click the color swatch? Why, when I've selected a path and hold my finger on the left arrow key (to nudge) am I whizzing through the file, edit, object, type.... bar?
Why does the color mode not stay on HSB? Who regularly uses RGB to adjust colors anyway? Put a color wheel in, go on, it won't kill you. People love flexibilty.
Why do gradients have to be rasterized when using 3D? Just shift the path and change the gradient angle for me.
Why isn't there a fillet tool?
Why don't you change the tone of the buttons so the different selctions are clear? (Select, create, manipulate etc).
When it comes to text selection in a project why are my only options - a tiny line that's fiddly to click on or a giant invisible box that covers everything? How about if I want to select the writing I could just click on the text?
Why can't we drag the words for data boxes like in photoshop? (eg:opacity) that's a great feature!
And why can't we have gradients on text?!
Adobe: because text is not actually a path and gradients can only be applied to paths.
Right, so write your way around the problem, make it so when a user selects the text tool, types some text and presses enter the program makes a temporary path which remains until a user double clicks the text (at which point the path is returned to proper text) and makes an adjustment. When they have finished adjusting they hit enter and a new temporary path is created.
Basically, there's a lot of little tweaks they could make that would have a big effect on the overall experience.
It's easier to ignore the little things but sometimes you just have to roll your sleeves up and get it done.
That feels better (lol) and breathe......
In my case (AI CS6 on Win 7 64bit) I don't even get to scroll! That is right! No matter what the current font is, when I open the font picker it always list the first installed font at the top and I can only see as many fonts fit on the screen. The font picker will not scroll. So if I want to pick a font starting with, say, "t" I have to type its name as it will never show on the scroller. Indeed *very buggy*
I suggest we wall post a bug report via https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and hope they will pay attention to that (since they seem to ignore the posts about it here on the forum)
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