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CS6 font selector is a UI fail

Jun 19, 2012 11:12 PM

Please put the font selection menu in the Character tool panel back the way it was in CS5, where it showed a dozen or so fonts in the drop-down and I could actually scroll through the list with the mouse scroll wheel or the dropdown's scrollbar -- exactly as the one in the quick Control toolbar at the top works (why are they even different?) -- instead of this horror-show font menu that opens up the entire height of my monitor and has to be navigated by moving all the way to the edges and watching it scroll hair-pullingly slow.

 
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    Jun 19, 2012 11:57 PM   in reply to idolum

    It doesn't move slow for me on Mac. It's perfect.

     
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    Jul 2, 2012 12:18 AM   in reply to idolum

    It works fine for me both the ways. I can scroll in newer way of font menu in character panel as well, whereas I can still access font through scrolling directly in character panel. I am not sre what is causing issue at your end, but it seems working fine for me with new Illustrator. And even I liked the new way of font listing, where I can even access it right from Character Panel.

     
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    Jul 12, 2012 6:56 AM   in reply to idolum

    Yes, why is there no scrollbar in the Character panel?

     

    I didn't even see the scrollbar in the quick panel until this post, but clearly they should be the same.

     
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    Jul 13, 2012 7:06 PM   in reply to idolum

    I've been trying to track down an answer for that myself! What the heck is that?? It's ridiculous. Plus, if I'm at the top of the font list, I don't have 10 extra minutes to scroll down to the bottom - geesh. Guess I'll have to change my long aquired habits and use the menu at the top of the workspace. ugh.

     
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    Jul 28, 2012 8:48 AM   in reply to KittyKitty

    You can also try typing the first letter of the font you're looking for, such as "T", or even "Ti" and you'll jump in the list to the end.

     
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    Jul 28, 2012 9:21 AM   in reply to DocPixel-BMW

    For some reason that wasn't working at first, but it's fine now.
    Thanks doc.

     
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    Aug 3, 2012 6:27 PM   in reply to idolum

    DITTO, idolum. Having the font list this way makes it pretty much useless.

     

    Adobe: FIX IT! I'm a graphic designer, and I have hundreds of fonts on my computer. Making me slow-scroll through them with those idiotic little arrows is not helpful, it is a *&^%$#@! nuisance. Put a proper scroll bar in there -- and if I have some text selected, it ought to open on the relevant font, not the top of the whole damned list.

     
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    Aug 13, 2012 5:45 AM   in reply to idolum

    The character panel in Illustrator is plain abysmal. In addition to all things that have already been said, I would like to mention that scrolling through fonts with arrow keys on the keyboard is completely broken: when I select a font, lets say American Typewriter, and use the down arrow key, it gets changed to the next font on my list (Andale Mono). But if I press the down key again, nothing happens. In this case I can only shuffle between those two fonts.

     

    But when I select Arial from the drop-down menu and then use the down arrow key, it allows me to shuffle between 15 fonts (up to Courier New in my case) and then stops again. So in order for me to choose a font for my text, I have to use both -- mouse and keyboard -- in order to jump up or down those stops.

     

    And when you bump into fonts that don't support some particular characters I have in my text (although, it does support it in other CS apps, like Photoshop), I loose all the ability to choose that font all together.

     
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    Aug 13, 2012 5:53 AM   in reply to Imworkinghere

    It really is ridiculous... like they were all finished with CS6 and someone said, "OH, we never fixed that bug in AI with the font list..." "eh, forget about it, no one will notice"

     
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    Nov 8, 2012 7:38 PM   in reply to KittyKitty

    The AI team will never acknowledge a bug. It's a sign of weakness.

     
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    Nov 12, 2012 9:26 PM   in reply to idolum

    I thought font handling in Fireworks was bad but to implement this UI interface for fonts in your flagship illustration product is barmy!! Please revert back to CS5 implementation for fonts...

     

    I mean who's bright idea was it to allow you to select a font and then when you select the list again for it not to be highlighted as the selected font!

     

    In fact, I see what you've done now, you swapped the functionality between the panel and the shortcut font selector.. Bah!

     

    Why oh why change things when they work fine!!

     
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    Nov 18, 2012 8:10 AM   in reply to JimBeeUK

    Progress: We have met the enemy, and it is US.

     
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    Dec 24, 2012 9:01 AM   in reply to revco196

    I wish I wasn't in this forum for the humor, but this made me laugh as it is sadly true.

     
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    Jan 4, 2013 8:45 AM   in reply to idolum

    I strongly agree with this suggestion and as CS6 has been in use for some time now surprised this hasn't been corrected yet. Although the arrow keys function they do take too long to scroll through when dealing with 100s of fonts, especially at the set speed. This applies to both areas where the fonts are housed. the faster scroll is preferred but even a stacked horizontal fly-out would be better than the current arrows. Over a year of work this will consumer hours and days of time which is costly. I have found the same problem in that I can type in a name or a letter and it will place a font in the meny but when the menu is opened you are not taken to the area of the font that is cuurently in place. Also this defeats the purpose of even having the font dispaly if it takes too long too scroll through to view them. Please add back in the scroll bar option as soon as possible.

     
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    Feb 12, 2013 7:38 PM   in reply to cplican

    I'm so glad I found this thread! In some way I'm glad it's not just me that finds the font system in illustrator completely and utterly infuriating.

    This program is 25 years old, any other software house would be bending over backwards to make their program the best it can be and this is the system they're happy to let users struggle through? It's unbelievable.

    It's not like it's a donationware program wrtitten by a single developer.

     

    I think Adobe should be embarrassed with the functionality of their program. I watched a few videos on the new features of CS6 and it was basically people saying 'this function is a bit better than it used to be' going crazy over breadcrumbs.

     

    I've seen 'Adobe will not admit they're wrong/have any weakness' a few times here and there, well it's about time they started listening to the people that have to work with their program because it's not good enough.

     

    I don't expect to have to wait whilst the fonts slowly tick by and with them moments of our lives, it's a major inconvenience. I don't expect to have to click random places on my screen to get rid of a pop up/drop down menu, the program should know that if I have been adjusting a value and then click on the direct selection tool I want the direct selection tool, close the entry box instantly.

    Why do I have to double click the color swatch? Why, when I've selected a path and hold my finger on the left arrow key (to nudge) am I whizzing through the file, edit, object, type.... bar?

    Why does the color mode not stay on HSB? Who regularly uses RGB to adjust colors anyway? Put a color wheel in,  go on, it won't kill you. People love flexibilty.

    Why do gradients have to be rasterized when using 3D? Just shift the path and change the gradient angle for me.

    Why isn't there a fillet tool?

    Why don't you change the tone of the buttons so the different selctions are clear? (Select, create, manipulate etc).

    When it comes to text selection in a project why are my only options - a tiny line that's fiddly to click on or a giant invisible box that covers everything? How about if I want to select the writing I could just click on the text?

    Why can't we drag the words for data boxes like in photoshop? (eg:opacity) that's a great feature!

     

    And why can't we have gradients on text?!

    Adobe: because text is not actually a path and gradients can only be applied to paths.

    Right, so write your way around the problem, make it so when a user selects the text tool, types some text and presses enter the program makes a temporary path which remains until a user double clicks the text (at which point the path is returned to proper text) and makes an adjustment. When they have finished adjusting they hit enter and a new temporary path is created.

     

    Basically, there's a lot of little tweaks they could make that would have a big effect on the overall experience.

     

    It's easier to ignore the little things but sometimes you just have to roll your sleeves up and get it done.

     

    That feels better (lol) and breathe......

     

    Ohhmmmmmmmm

     
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    Mar 29, 2013 7:27 AM   in reply to hoobah645

    In my case (AI CS6 on Win 7 64bit) I don't even get to scroll! That is right! No matter what the current font is, when I open the font picker it always list the first installed font at the top and I can only see as many fonts fit on the screen. The font picker will not scroll. So if I want to pick a font starting with, say, "t" I have to type its name as it will never show on the scroller. Indeed *very buggy*

     
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    Apr 17, 2013 1:58 PM   in reply to idolum

    It's been 10 months and you still have not done anything with this problem. Do you produce a program for yourself or for users who have something to say?

     
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    Apr 17, 2013 2:01 PM   in reply to idolum

    I suggest we wall post a bug report via https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform and hope they will pay attention to that (since they seem to ignore the posts about it here on the forum)

     
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