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AVCHD Disc menu on DVD

Aug 3, 2012 5:16 AM

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Hello all

I am hoping someone can please help me.

 

I have worked through Premiere Elements to make a disc menu for my wedding video footage, using the Wedding Doves template.

 

My footage is AVCHD.

 

I don't have a Blu Ray burner so the best way I can export the AVCHD footage is by burning AVCHD to DVD through Premiere.

 

When I burn the AVCHD file on to a DVD, the disc menu does not really work on playback through my Blu Ray player. I can get the menu to show on my TV, with a bit of playing around, but it doesn't automatically appear like it would for a store bought DVD or Blu Ray. Also, I am not able to use it like a standard DVD menu where I can return to it from the footage etc. Fortunately, the menu markers do seem to work though, so I can at least skip through sections.

 

I have tested burning a DVD (rather than AVCHD) and the menu works then, but obviously the quality is not as true to the original AVCHD footage, or the HD menu template that Adobe has built.

 

Grateful if someone can clear up whether I can even use disc menus when exporting AVCHD to DVD. If so, how do I make it work?

 

Many thanks!

803 Views   6 Replies   Latest reply: micromambo, Jan 11, 2013 3:39 AM
 
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  • nealeh
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    1. nealeh,
    Aug 3, 2012 8:18 AM   in reply to Bronte Colagrossi
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    Bronte Colagrossi wrote:

     

    whether I can even use disc menus when exporting AVCHD to DVD.

     

    You can't have menus on an AVCHD disk.

     

    Cheers,
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    Neale
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  • Bronte Colagrossi
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    2. Bronte Colagrossi,
    Aug 3, 2012 4:53 PM   in reply to nealeh
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    Thank you for clarifying.

     

    I wish this was clearer in the program and help documents - could have saved myself some time if i knew that before.

     
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    3. micromambo,
    Jan 9, 2013 7:02 AM   in reply to Bronte Colagrossi
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    To be honest - why can't you not have AVCHD menus? The documentation explicitly names it and PrE 11 i.e. does not warn about it, but even more processes all menus (you see it in the exporter progress bar) and generates everything for it.

    BUT: I have not found a single software player which can REALLY handle it - most of them just show some video with a static menu picture but cannot really handle inactivty.

     
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  • Bill Hunt
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    4. Bill Hunt,
    Jan 9, 2013 7:14 AM   in reply to micromambo
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    The interactivity comes from the navigation that is written into the first VOB on a DVD-Video disc, by the authoring program, and is part of the DVD and BD specs. With a pure AV (Audio Video) file, there is no interactivity, except in a format, like FLV/SWF (Flash).

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    5. micromambo,
    Jan 9, 2013 8:35 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt
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    Hi,

     

    Thanks Hunt for coming back on this quite old thread and trying to help.

     

    Well then: I did what Bronte also wanted to achieve (as far as I understand): With PrE 11 I exported AVCHD to disc (and also into folders just tom compare the results) and tested the result with different software players:

     

    XBMC cannot really handle the menu (in 10 sec. intervals it plays the menu like a still video, but you cannot really interact), but the main video still plays fine and I can jump to menu markers. Something not possible with PrE 11 exporting a single file (i.e. MP4)

     

    VLC also is really crappy in regards to showing and interacting with the AVCHD menu - and again: the main video ist played perfectly.

     

    So - anyone with success creating a AVCHD menu which you can interact with the same way like on a normal DVD (standard DVD format, not pseudo-blu ray as with AVCHD)?

     

    Thanks,

    micromambo

     
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    6. micromambo,
    Jan 11, 2013 3:39 AM   in reply to micromambo
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    So. I checked it.

     

    Used "Virtual CD V10" as virtual DVD / BluRay burner with Single-Layer BD-ROM and published a media to BluRay.

    I found a software player which correctly plays BluRay and AVCHD menus: Corel WinDVD 11.

     

    After successful test I tried it with AVCHD, menus and exporting to filesystem instead to disc (which definitely should show no difference) - works as well in Corel WinDVD 11.

     

    Summary:

    - I would expect that "real" HW players  do the job even better than SW players

    - XBMC (12.0 RC, "Frodo") does NOT do the job

    - VLC does also NOT do the job - the menu ist stuck, I cannot select a menu point.

    - PrE 11 does a correct job exporting menus for all: DVD, AVCHD as well as BluRay. Cannot tell for other versions. Give the trial a chance (as I do currently) to find out.

     
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