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There was a problem reading this document (109) on Japanese PC

New Here ,
Aug 07, 2012 Aug 07, 2012

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We have an app written with Delphi 2006 and using Rave Reports to generate PDFs.  A Japanese user of our software cannot open the PDFs (with Acrobat reader) our software produces when they run our software on a Japanese version of Windows (probably Win7). I have the same problem if I try to open the same PDF (which they have sent us) with Acrobat reader on an English-language Win XP machine :

There was an error processing a page. There was a problem reading this document (109)..

Ctrl-OK produces "object label badly formatted"

PDF files produced on English installations of our software read fine on our PCs and on the Japanese user's PC

Does anyone have any idea where this error is coming from?

Thanks,

Ross

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LEGEND ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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I do not know Rave Reports; is this part or an extension of Delphi?

I remember a few years ago when I worked on a Delphi project, I always compiled the Japanese version of the software with the Japanese Delphi version.  I do not exactly remember why, but it may have been a fonts issue.

Do you have Acrobat available?  If so, if you open that faulty PDF with Acrobat, then re-save it, does that fix the problem?  If yes, then you may be able to find out what the difference is between the two files.

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New Here ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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Rave reports is an extension bundled with delphi. I only have adobe reader,

which doesn't load the offending document. I was able to load it with foxit

reader and it displayed correctly! But when i saved it from foxit, the

resulting pdf was identical to the original.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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If the PDF does not contain any confidential information, can you send it to me, so I can try to open it with Acrobat?

I will send you a PM with my email address.

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New Here ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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ThanksPat.  Done.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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I have received your docs; I will have a look at them later today.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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I am very sorry; Acrobat gives me the exactly same error as you get in Adobe Reader.

I have even tried to open it with Acrobat XI (beta), but I am still getting the same error.

Since the failure only occurs when the document is issued on Japanese Windows, do I assume correctly that the document may contain Japanese characters?

If so, are there provisions in your Delphi software and/or Rave Reports that multibyte / wide characters are handled correctly?  Are there specifications for Japanese (or Unicode) fonts?

Sorry, this is about all I can think of.

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New Here ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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Hi Pat,

Thanks for looking at this.

Yes, there are almost certainly Japanese characters.  If you look at the second (readable) version I sent you can see where part of the date has been rendered incorrectly - this is because they have their regional settings arranged so that the Japanese year character is used, and the version of Delphi we use doesn't support those multibyte characters.

It seems unreasonable for Acrobat Reader to choke on this however. 

Here'a binary dump of the relevant part of the file

Image1.png

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LEGEND ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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rossmcm wrote:

It seems unreasonable for Acrobat Reader to choke on this however. 

It is possible that earlier Reader versions (8 or 9) may open the documens without errors, but of course it will still not show the Japanese timestamps correctly.

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New Here ,
Aug 09, 2012 Aug 09, 2012

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Hi Pat,

I removed the offending characters with a binary editor and it still fails to load, same error.  I'll send you the repaired version in the hope that you have access to some diagnostic tool that will point to what's upsetting it.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 10, 2012 Aug 10, 2012

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Hi Ross,

I will be able to have a look at it tomorrow.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 10, 2012 Aug 10, 2012

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I was unable to open the "repaired" PDF with Acrobat; I am still getting the same error (as you get with Adobe Reader).

I am currently not even sure if it is the Japanese characters that are causing the error.  And I do not know enough about the internal structure of PDF documents to analyze it.  (I have even downloaded PDF-Analyzer, but that doesn't really tell me anything about your doc.)

I don't know how you obtain the timestamps in your application, but would it be possible to obtain these timestamps in a plain ASCII format?

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New Here ,
Aug 10, 2012 Aug 10, 2012

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Hi Pat,

The time and date in our application are formatted using the user's "Regional Settings" date format.  I'm pretty sure that if the Japanese users set their date format to use a Romaji (i.e. english) date formats instead of Japanese characters the funny date characters will go away, but as you said this isn't the (only) problem, given that the file still faults when I scrub them out.

Weird

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LEGEND ,
Aug 11, 2012 Aug 11, 2012

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I think it's worth a try (to use a romaji date format), as it may have font implications.

I have played with Acrobat Preflight this afternoon, but even Preflight is unable to open your document.

I have also downloaded a PDF Repair tool, which in fact was able to repair your PDF.  But then when I compared the two PDF files with a hex compare tool, the two files are dramatically different.  But the section where the timestamps appear are still identical (mojibake).

So it appears as if it is not the Japanese characters per se that make the document unreadable, but something else - related to it.

This case is really intriguing!

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Aug 12, 2012 Aug 12, 2012

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*** Update ***

Acrobat Reader 9 is unable to open the document either (same error -109)

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Aug 12, 2012 Aug 12, 2012

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Yes, I tried Reader 9.x, 8.x, and 7.x - all give the same error.

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LEGEND ,
Aug 08, 2012 Aug 08, 2012

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I just had a look at the second document you sent me (Foxit output), and it appears that there are timestamps that contain Japanese characters (but are rendered as "mojibake" garbage characters).

mojibake.PNG

That seems to prove that multibyte / wide characters are not handled, either in your software, or in Rave Reports.

A Japanese timestamp would properly look like 2012年8月6日 18:54:20

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