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How do I export closed-captioned movies from Premiere CS6?

Aug 8, 2012 8:08 AM

I am using Premiere CS6 (Windows 7) to create a movie with closed captioning. I use the MovieCaptioner software (http://www.synchrimedia.com/) to create the mcc captions dada file. In Premiere I attach the mcc file to a timeline sequence and enable closed captioning display. I can see the movie with captions in the program window. In closed captioning settings I have cc area and service both set to 1. I am having difficulty finding the correct set of parameters that will make Premiere export a movie which includes and displays the captions.

 

Les M. Lunce. lmlunce@gmail.com

 
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    Aug 8, 2012 7:24 AM   in reply to LesMLunce

    Hi Les,

     

    Unfortunately Premiere Pro CS6 doesn't have the ability to embed the captions into a media file (as closed caption), nor does it have the ability to render the captions as burnt-in subtitles either.  Both of these things we've received as requests from other users and we're considering those among all of our other requests.

     

    For our planning, can you go a little more in-depth about your workflow with MovieCaptioner, what you like/dislike about it, and where the files would go if you were able to do what you're asking for in Premiere

     

    Thanks

    Charles

     
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    Nov 8, 2012 10:26 AM   in reply to LesMLunce

    Soooooo ridiculous that Premiere cannot do this simple task.  We just upgraded to CS6 mc, a good $2k later and we still don't have broadcast needs met.  We broadcast in over 15 million - TV stations and cable head ends- they will not even talk to us if we don't have CC. 

     

    ADOBE!!!  THIS SHOULD BE PRIORITY #1!!

     

    Just let us output to file with CC!!  Please!!

     

    So for the user above looking for an alternative, CPC or Pixeltools are really your only choice.  The Pixeltools guys were going to make a Quicktime plug in to allow for adding CC, not sure if that ever got made, but yeah, step it up adobe!  Give us actual upgrades for our money, only thing good going from CS5 to CS6 is now the audio does not drift with long renders

     
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    Nov 27, 2012 3:06 PM   in reply to cavisto

    cavisto wrote:

     

    Soooooo ridiculous that Premiere cannot do this simple task.  We just upgraded to CS6 mc, a good $2k later and we still don't have broadcast needs met.  We broadcast in over 15 million - TV stations and cable head ends- they will not even talk to us if we don't have CC. 

     

    ADOBE!!!  THIS SHOULD BE PRIORITY #1!!

     

    Just let us output to file with CC!!  Please!!

    Make a feature request then: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish

    Thanks!

     
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    Jan 23, 2013 10:52 AM   in reply to Kevin Monahan

    Just curious as I'm new to Adobe products. I am creating projects in Premier Pro and then sending them to Encore for making them into a DVD. I am captioning videos for a school district's hearing impaired students and English Language Learners. I have been using Encore to add the caption file (.scc) to my project. I did notice that you could attach captions in Premier Pro but, if you can't export them along with the video, what would be the point of even having that option?

     

    The reason I need to attach the captioning files in Premier Pro before creating the DVD is that I am combining multiple short video files with multiple caption files into one DVD project. In Encore, I can only attach one caption file rather than individual files to each piece of video. So I will have to see if my software (CPC) will let me combine all the .scc files into one and then hope that doesn't throw off the timing of the captions. I will submit a feature request but was just curious what purpose the captions serve in Premier Pro. Thanks.

     
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    Jan 23, 2013 11:05 AM   in reply to bhansonwdsc

    And I guess I should have added that I really need to be able to attach separated caption files to individual video clips rather than just one for the whole project. So that would be another feature request. Am I the only one that needs to do this? Thanks.

     
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    Jan 23, 2013 11:14 AM   in reply to bhansonwdsc

    bhansonwdsc wrote:

     

    And I guess I should have added that I really need to be able to attach separated caption files to individual video clips rather than just one for the whole project. So that would be another feature request. Am I the only one that needs to do this? Thanks.

    No, you're not. Keep those feature requests coming!

     
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    Mar 19, 2013 10:30 AM   in reply to bhansonwdsc

    We use both Premiere and Vegas Pro. Vegas Pro allows us to get the embedded closed captioning we need now. We got it for the ability to add and edit closed captioning. It will be great when adobe catches up.

     
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    Mar 21, 2013 10:30 AM   in reply to Kevin Monahan

    Thanks Kevin. I made a request as well. This has been very frustrating to me as well.

     
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    Mar 21, 2013 10:34 AM   in reply to paBlw

    paBlw, what version of Vegas do you use? I wasn't aware it had that capability. I'm still sending separate files but stations are starting to ask more frequently to embed it. Also, is Vegas only able to embed CC into certain formats such as MPEG2, etc.?

     
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    Mar 25, 2013 10:18 AM   in reply to dstack1014

    I've used Vegas Pro 10 11 and 12. All have similar ability to work with closed captions. Vegas will embed the closed captioning with Mpg2, and XdCam.mxf files. Basically that depends on whether the file type supports it.  It will also allow you to make external caption files for players like Windows Media, Flash, etc.   I don't recall what capabilities the consumer version of Vegas has for closed captions.     With Vegas Pro, you can also correct captions and reposition captions, not just see them like in Premiere.

     
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    May 18, 2013 1:57 AM   in reply to paBlw

    I am IN SHOCK! ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? i downloaded the trial of cs6 to merge scc files to my video and export for the tv station.

    after fighting for weeks!!! trying to export it!!! Because who the hek would offer such a feature WE COULDNT EXPORT!!! MY GOD. Like we all have editors so we can watch our productions in them and NOT EXPORT and share with the world!!! Geez! its NOT rocket science. No wonder FCP kicks your assets all over the place.@!!@@@@ if you cant export DONT ANNOY us and offer it in a preview only.

    I cant believe Charles asking that mundane question above "

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    For our planning, can you go a little more in-depth about your workflow with MovieCaptioner, what you like/dislike about it, and where the files would go if you were able to do what you're asking for in Premiere

     

    are you joking ;;; where would they go??? to broadcast... to tv.... to the world!!!! ANYWHERE BUT SIT IN OUR PREVIEW WINDOW!!! DUH. anyone else feel the same way??

    HELLO VEGAS. HELLO FCP. GOODBYE CS6.. thank god it was a trial!!!!

     
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    May 18, 2013 2:40 AM   in reply to GWhizzDobe

    would like to step in with a typical usecase:

     

    --> Question: CC is the new buzz word because tv broadcast needs it - but - technicaly subtitles and closed captions are the same thing - a text stream added to the video - so PP sould support both for loading - editing - showing - exporting...

     

    1. We use PP to check projects in realtime during mastering stage (playing 2K DPX, checking 12 channels of audio for sync and also subtitles and CC

     

    2. We have to assemble features from reels - so we get one sub or CC file per reel

     

    3. We have to split Subs or CC into Reels

     

    4. We have to fix errors in Subs or CC on the fly (please insinde PP...)

     

    5. We have to conform them to 24p/25p (video duration changes here)

     

    6. We have to create burn in versions

     

    7. We have to check character and font settings for D-Cinema XML Subtitles

     

    so we hope for some progress here because we don't know of a good external Plugin for CS6 or CC7 to support this and the current workflow doesn't make any sense for us...

     

    --> convert D-Cinema XML Subs or CC to Premiere CC-Format - load it to the programm monitor - check for problems - fix in external XML-Editor - convert - reload in Premiere...

     
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