I have been reading your thread with interest because I am going through the same problems that you are experiencing when it comes to not been able to even save a file, or open a raw photo image. I am working with CS5 Extended v12.0.4 x 32, so the problem expands to more than one Photoshop version. I often run into the same error messages have mentioned:
"Could not complete your request because there is not enough memory (RAM)" or something like "Could not save file because of a system error".
I am working with a PC Windows Vista Home Premium (Service pack 2) system very much similar to what you have, with 4GB of RAM, and an Intel Core 2 Quad (Q6600) 2.40 GHz.RAID system. I also have a similar video card (NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT with 512 MB of memory), which I also updated not too long ago with the latest fixes.
My scratch disk has 71.1 G of free space and is pointed to the C drive while I normally work from data in a D drive.
Although I am not doing 3D work which uses a lot of power to do the rendering, I do use a lot of other filters to manipulate my images. So the other think we have in common is a large number of plug-in filters.
In my case, even where there is no other program open, I am experiencing these problems, and it is getting frustrating. I love working in Photoshop and I love manipulating photos, and I am not totally lost in understanding the nuances of the OS and the insides of Photoshop, but it seems that the responses to the thread have gone beyond the 'common understanding" of a regular Photoshop user (artist mind) into the realm of system engineering and it has actually made it more confusing –at least for me– to understand and tackle the problem(s).
Unfortunately, any other information in this forum and related to this problem goes back a few years back and has not offered too much of a solution.
So I am hoping you were able to make more sense of all this and perhaps share on any advances you have made on this. Have you been able to solve your problem? Have you done something that has improved the situation? Any assistance will be greatly, greatly appreciated. :-)
A frustrated Photoshoper,
…My scratch disk has 71.1 G of free space and is pointed to the C drive while I normally work from data in a D drive…
You might not think so, but 71 GB is not that much free space to be shared by Photoshop's scratch disk with the swap files of the OS, the web browser's cache files and whatever other processes and/or applications you may have running. All those are memory hogs.
4 GB of RAM, in my opinion, is the bare minimum to run CS6 comfortably and with a modicum of stability. These days many folks consider 8 GB the minimum.
My primary scratch disk is a dedicated 250 GB physically separate internal hard drive, and I have some 400 GB free on my boot drive. I have 16 GB of RAM installed on my main working machine. Other users have a lot more; I am now just a retired, disabled old geezer on a fixed income, otherwise I'd be running with lots more RAM and maybe with an array of non-spinning SSD drives.
The scratch disk is created the instant you open an image file or create a new document, always. Its size is determined by the size of the file, the number of layers, the number of history states you keep open, etc. Figure on 100 times or more the size of your largest file multiplied by the number of files you keep open, just for Photoshop's scratch disk.
Station_two... now you are talking my language! Thanks SO MUCH!
At least it gives me an idea of where to start, and I think it makes sense with some of the previouis reading. I guess is time to update my computer memory and the hard drives and I better do that before I retire (not too far awary) or will be having real problems, eh?! ;-) Thanks again!
RAM is pretty cheap right now. If I were building a new system right now I'd put at least 48 GB of RAM in it. I'm considering buying 32 GB as a complete replacement for the 16 GB of RAM I have in my current workstation. My point is that (with a 64 bit OS) the more RAM the better for Photoshop.
Thanks Noel, I think I am already thinking in getting a new system, and due to the fact that I would't know how to custom built my own system, I guess I just have to ask the IT staff of a store to build according to specs provided. As a starting point, I was looking at the following system:
Full specs at:
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Is not a high-end gamer system but I am not a gamer (although my photoshop high demand images, CS5 Extended version, may compete at some level with that of a gamer's requirements), so beside asking to update the RAM is there is anything else in these specs that I should be considering?
Any comments or suggestions as to how to built a system to work Photoshop files without a problem will be appreciate. I am not saying that I have the budget of the world to purchase the MOST expensive system, but if I am going to go through the expense of upgrading my system, I would like it to be worth every hard earned penny.
Thanks for your replies so far, and for the ones to come! :-)
That's probably a potent system, though I don't know anything about Acer specifically. My expertise lies in Dell Precision Workstations, which are quite pricey (though one can find a dynamite off-cutting-edge system on eBay if one works at it).
Just some general comments:
I was just reading more about that 4 core CPU you're thinking of getting... Per the PassMark benchmark site, the i7-3770 scores 10,364, which is quite healthy for a single processor. Individual core speed is good, which will be good for certain operations that are not multi-threaded, yet there are 4 true cores and hyperthreading for those operations that can use them. It will work quite well with Photoshop.
This is just a list of my thoughts. Offhand, what's your overall budget? If I knew a dollar value I might be able to suggest some alternatives that might give you better performance.
Just as an idea, thinking out of the traditional box. This is almost the identical approach I took to get my current workstation quite inexepensively, and it's very powerful. The prices I'm showing here are what I was able to find just now from eBay and various suppliers.
You of course would have to use your current monitor and probably keyboard, mouse, etc. but those things can be purchased in addition to the system unit relatively inexpensively if you need them. You might want to use whatever optical writer you currently have, or you can get a new one. Even a high-end blu-ray writer is cheap at like $60.
Whatever you get, I suggest budgeting another $150 for a 3 TB external Western Digital MyBook USB drive for backups as well.
This is not tantamount to building a system - it's getting a full system and unplugging and changing out a few parts with high-end replacements.
For under $1500 this 8 core system will score 10,000+ on the PassMark benchmark, and will outperform most new systems. How do I know this? Because I personally have a T5400 with 16 GB and exactly those Xeon X5460 processors (though a lesser video card). My workstation is quite powerful even by today's standards. Photoshop comes up in 3 seconds, and I'm able to work on quite large images without any trouble.
You will be able to set the two SSDs up in RAID 0 arrangement, AND the two HDDs in RAID 0, AND the optical drive (there are 5 on-board SATA ports and an on-board Intel ESB2 RAID controller that Windows 7 knows how to use). An option might be to get a couple more SSDs and make a 4 drive 1 TB C: drive. Or you can add them later.
It's just a thought.
Station_two and Noel! Thanks SO much for taking the time to respond to my questions on a sunny Sunday afternoon. I am sorry if I derailed the topic of the thread with my request for system information, but on the other hand I think it may be relevant if is to solve the problem of the error at hand... YOU GUYS ROCK!!! :-)
Noel, I will arm myself with the information you provide and GO SHOPPING!... I am thinking that I could probably treat myself to a new system that hopefully would last me for another 4 years (the last one was only good for two, as it has been for the last couple of systems). We are talking here about my personal computer. At work I would not be so lucky! So, to give you an overall idea of what I may have for budget is should be around $1,500 and just for the processor as I already have a good-enough-for-now monitor and keyboard, so I am right on the mark with what you are suggesting. I have also lately purchased a couple of external drives (2TB ea) that I used as a backup for my images... but files are getting bigger and bigger. So I just have to think, as you wisely mentioned, in a system that can expand as my images continue to pile up. Storage has not been a problem, but the processing of large files has proven to be the week link of my system, so I guess is time to update.
Thank you again Station_two and Noel and have a wonderful afternoon! Hopefully all errors will be history with this new system! :-)