I've found that with the recent upgrade to Indesign CS6 there is a bug in the "Frame Fitting Options" for placing images into a frame box. By default the options are set to place the image centered in the box, but when placing an image it plops in at top left... it only seems to plop in centered if I also check the "fit content proportiaonally" which I don't want to do. What's up with this?? I work for a book publisher that publishes image heavy books, so this is a major hassle for me.
Tell us the exact steps you're taking, and the settings you're using in Frame Fitting Options. It may be helpful to make a screen capture of the dialog box. You can use the camera icon in the forum editor to select your screen capture.
I think it may be a bug. I got the same results as you did in InDesign CS6. When I went back to InDesign CS5.5, with the same settings, it placed the image in the center, rather than at the upper right.
I'd suggest filing a bug report here:
I'm experiencing a similar issue. When working with object styles, neither the alignment options nor the fitting options have any effect over the content in the frame. However, right-clicking the frame and selecting the desired fitting option does work. Additionally, I've been able to double click on the content in the frame to get a bounding box around the content and free transform within the frame.
Hello everyone, I recently upgraded from CS5 to CS6 recently. I am experiencing the same scenarios being described here in this forum: placing images and the “Frame Fitting Options” control is not being honored. Is Adobe listening/reading our comments. Is there a solution on the near horizon. Or, is Adobe beginning to show its weakness like QuarkXPress has done in its’ past. I am voting for Adobe. The solution to this scenario should be a quick “dirty & down” project... it worked before--it should NOW! Adobe, resolve this solution now. We are counting on you!
I agree with Macian2. I never expected to still be experiencing the same problem 6 months later. It feels like no-one is listening, and this problem has a big impact on my workflow. Surely if it used to work it can't be that difficult to solve.
Wow, now here I am a few months later again and the bugs are still there. This is the type of bug that renders the application unusable. I have had to resort to using Photoshop to produce prints with the scaling dpi that I want.
There are several modes of this bug. The way I see it, once you change a frame to "fit contents" (which it will always do) you can never again set that frame to Center, or set the image to "unscaled" again. I have seen that this can work if you go ahead and delete the original contents of the frame and re-insert the image after clearing the formating options. The images in my frames need to either be fitted to the frame, or "cropped as a to-scale". I would think that when I select different options from the Object-Fitting menu, that I would see different results, but that is not always the case. If you pulll up the options and select different alignment on an image (from left, from bottom, etc.) that doesn't always work either.
I would think a rigorous investigation into this part of the application is long overdue.
The reason that we are all using Adobe Creative Suite is because Quark rested on the laurels for too long, although looking at the promotional materials coming through from Quark they are really making an effort to stay in the game.
Maybe the tide will turn again if Adobe continue to ignore their customers. This is a major problem, that causes me trouble many times a day.
It's true. It is a very severe bug. It's right up there with Windows 7 deleting a file in explorer and the operating system not removing it from the list until you hit refresh. In both cases, maybe the developers have tried to fix them, but can't. They're much too obvious to have gone unnoticed.
I just upgraded and found this bug in my first 10 minutes using the program. IT took CS5 off my machine when they upgraded me to CS6. This is going to be a HUGE problem for me, as I use this feature all day long. This will literally cut my productivity in half. I can't believe Adobe has been aware of this problem for months and hasn't taken the time to fix it.
If you pulll up the options and select different alignment on an image (from left, from bottom, etc.) that doesn't always work either.
I found that if you set the four crop amounts to 0, then is seems to work.
I placed a bug report with Adobe months ago... it's sad to see they have not bothered to fix this. This is the reason I still use Indesign CS3 for building my books at my job -- CS3 is BY FAR the best version of Indesign when it comes to working with lots of images. With each new version they make working with images harder and harder. Sigh...
I have not tried the script, Pickery. I'm not big on scripts. It seems to me that things that used to work in previous versions should not require the use of weird third party scripts or coding. They should just fix the damn thing and make it work like it's supposed to.
I've noticied some other bugs in Indesign CS6 where things that used to work do not work anymore, such as the "document fonts" folder does NOT load all the fonts in the folder anymore. I think they released thsi version before it was ready, and they don't care.
Although I agree it may be difficult this is an essential function for most designers. We all have to place long PDF files and spend ages correctly positioning them in the centre of the frame, which we shouldn't need to waste time on.
The fact that we don't feel that we are being listened to is unacceptable. I don't see any Adobe employees on this thread telling us that they are working hard to resolve this problem. If it worked before, surely it can't be that difficult.
Thanks for trying it.
I created a new graphic frame and set the proxie thing to bottom right and imported a graphic and it was positioned correctly. Without the script it was positioned top left.
Did you restart ID? I wonder what is different here.
Personally, I was happy with InDesign CS4 as it rarely let me down- especially with Frame-fitting issues. We had no choice to upgrade to CS6 or we'd have to buy it outright, which for a small company, is a massive outlay. Dissapointing to see this thread has had no reply on such a seemingly basic oversight.
Hmmm, that is a shame, it works for me on Win and Mac.
I have no idea why it is working, as you can see from the code it is simply setting the value of fittingAlignment to its self.
In my testing I did create a new document, new frame, set the proxie and then place.
My ID is not patched or updated.
You may well be barking, that's not for me to say! I've double checked that I put the script in the right place, and gone through all the steps above and it still hasn't worked, which seems weird. I'm running CS6 v8.0.
I have tested on an A4 portrait page, with the proxie set to bottom right, and am placing an A4 with bleeds PDF into the frame.
OK, lets put an alert in the script. Are you able to edit the script? If so paste this in.
var theImage = e.parent;
alert ( theImage.constructor.name );
if (( theImage.constructor.name == "Image" ) ||
( theImage.constructor.name == "PDF" ))
theImage.parent.frameFittingOptions.fittingAlignment = theImage.parent.frameFittingOptions.fittingAlignment;
Should we go to PM, rather than clog this thread up?
I'm not sure if by seeing a flurry of activity it may highlight the thread as active to Adobe? Happy to go through it by email though if you like.
When I double click the script it opens a script editor, which I have never used, but could probably work it out...
Whilst I think the script option is massively helpful and shows a proactiveness and ingenuity to get around the problem, the fact is, this is an old feature that should be working without work-arounds from good people like Pickory.
I agree MCCoole, we shouldn't be trying to work this out ourselves, but this is a problem that seriously hampers productivity, and needs sorting out. As Adobe don't appear to be doing it I am grateful for all the help I can get!
Hey everyone. Pickory has developed a script, and I have tested it with a few different formats and it seems to work well.
You can download it from here:
Please let us know whether it works for you or not so that any wrinkles can be ironed out.
Have a nice weekend everyone
I have recently bought InDesign CS6 v8 and notice a similar and presumably related problem. In my case, when I open an old file and change an image -- replacing it with a different one, for instance -- the image is resized, seemingly in a random fashion. Presumably it is a kind of "fit to frame". I have ensured that this is not being requested at any level, neither in the preferences nor in the properties of the image frame. No automatic fitting. As with the experience of others in this discussion, deleting the frame and creating a new one seems to work. The same problem occurs if the images are merely updated -- the original sizing is not retained. This is a major hassle.
I wonder if the script from Pickory would solve this problem as well as the positioning issue?
Many thaks for any advice.