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Photoshop CS6 - save as EPS - no JPEG Preview?

Aug 29, 2012 3:01 AM

Tags: #jpeg #preview #eps #cs6

Hi!

 

I was just trying to save a 8-Bit CMYK file as Photoshop EPS - I can only choose TIFF as preview format. How's that?

 

Best Regards,

 

Eric

 
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    Aug 29, 2012 3:14 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    Maybe your file has alpha channels or layers?

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 3:57 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    EPS doesn't allow JPEG previews - only TIF or WMF (PC) or PICT (Mac).

     

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encapsulated_PostScript#EPS_previews

     

    Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 4:47 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    Eric Peters wrote:

     

    Photoshop EPS files were allowed to have other preview formats,…

     

    Now, in CS6, the options for Macintosh and Macintosh (JPEG) are missing...

     

    Yes, that was most certainly true on the Mac.

     

    I practically never deal with CMYK or EPS, so I hadn't noticed the disappearance of those options.  That's why I speculated about layers or alpha channels.

     

    Oh, well, yet another reason to keep CS4 around if you deal with EPS!

     

    (I haven't checked CS5.  Though I did install it, I've never used it.  I simply skipped CS5 and went from CS4 to CS6.)

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 4:48 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    OK, I've just checked CS5, and all three Macintosh options are still there:

     

    Screen shot 2012-08-29 at 4.37.31 AM.png

     

    It looks that they were eliminated in CS6. 

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 5:00 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    By all means do.  I'll support you in the spirit of solidarity, even though I don't deal with EPS any more.

     

    Just so it's clear:  I'm not affiliated with Adobe in any way. 

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 6:46 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    What's showing in Photoshop CS6 on PC:

     

    EPSPreviewOptions.jpg

     

    Same thing in Photoshop CS5:

    EPSOptionsCS5.jpg

     

     

     

    Does the Encoding field just apply to the main image?  I ask because there are JPEG options there, and I have no familiarity with EPS format.

     

    EPSOptions.jpg

      

    -Noel

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 7:51 AM   in reply to station_two

    That's strange - JPEG preview in EPS.

    The PostScript Language Reference Manual 2.Ed., which

    specifies EPS, does not allow JPEG explicitly, just TIFF, WMF(PC)

    and PICT(Mac).

    The 3.Ed. doesn't mention EPS anymore (nothing new then).

     

    What happens, if a correct PostScript Interpreter encounters

    such a JPEG in an EPS? Error? Negclect (ignore)?

     

    Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

     
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    Aug 29, 2012 8:51 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    The fault lies in your Display Performances settings in InDesign.

    You obviously have your setting on "Typical", change it to "High Quality" and the "problem" goes away.

     

    In the screenshot below, the left image is with a Tiff preview but Typical Display Performance setting

    the middle image is with a Jpg preview but also Typical Display setting (note the jagged diagonal beam)

    the right image is with a Tiff preview but High Quality Performance setting.

     

    view quality samples.jpg

     

    menu options.jpg

    Click the images to see an enlarged view.

     

    The Macintosh 1 & 8 bit options I believe are PICT files, PICT was an early format that has since been deprecated.

    Even in the Pagemaker days of more than 20 years ago it never made much sense since page layout programs could deal with TIFF previews for EPS files.

     

    Of course, the issue is why even use EPS files. EPS is an older format with some limitations,

    These days just place PSD, TIFF or PDF. The world moves forward!

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 2:24 AM   in reply to Bo LeBeau

    (EDITED due to misinterpretation of your post.  My bad.)

     

     

    ———

    Incidentally, I agree with you that EPS files for the most part are a thing of the past, although for vector illustrations in page layout and word-processing programs and in conjunction with PostScript savvy printers they still perform admirably.

     

     

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    Message was edited by: station_two

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 2:25 AM   in reply to Bo LeBeau

    Please note I edited my previous post.  My apology.

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 3:53 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    Eric Peters wrote:

     

    BTW - why is InDesign still 32-Bit? ;-)))

     

    The short answer is, of course:  because Adobe hasn't written a 64 version

     

    I guess the InDesign team has different resources and different priorities.  You should ask in their forum.

     

    Inconsistency between or among applications in the artificial "suites" should come as no surprise.

     

    The "suite" concept is a fabrication of Adobe marketing and bean-counting types.  The engineering teams are totally independent of each other, they are not only in different buildings but in different cities and states of the American Union, even in different countries.

     

    The fact that they have little if any communication among them is highlighted by requests occasionally made in these forums by top Adobe engineers to let the other teams know when there are problems in one application that impact our workflow in another one.

     
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    Aug 30, 2012 4:30 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    Eric,

     

    no doubt -after reading all posts - you are sending EPS with JPEG

    preview to the print house.

    On the other hand - the PostScript Language Reference Manuals are

    compulsory.

     

    Here comes an explanation (a guess):

    The preview is indeed and in fact a TIFF. But each TIFF can contain

    a JPEG preview. Thus, the JPEG would be embedded in the TIFF.

     

    This may explain as well Beau LeBeau's observations #13.

     

    By the way, I'm programming PostScript illustrations directly. Nothing

    outdated with EPS - PostScript is a very clean programming language.

     

    Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

     
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    Sep 5, 2012 8:49 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    This is a "feature" and not a "bug" in the sense that this was done on purpose. It was done mainly to fix a bug where Photoshop EPS files gave NO preview in Illustrator. The fix made the non-TIFF preview options more difficult (details have already been given in previous responses on why this would be).

     

    I don't think it's impossible for us to engineer a solution back into Photoshop, so you'll want to make your feature request at http://feedback.photoshop.com

     
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    Nov 6, 2012 6:08 AM   in reply to Eric Peters

    This has been an issue since CS5. Even though there was the option in CS5 to save with a Macintosh (JPEG) preview within the EPS file it did not work and when that option was chosen Quark still claims there is no Preview attached when brought in, essentialy saving as binary w/jpeg previews did not show the preview in Quark when saved in CS5.

     


    The problem with TIFF is that it produces a misleading high-colour preview, which is not useful in page layout. The JPEG preview is (or was, when it worked) a much more representative image. TIFF and JPEG previews have always differed in how the appear on screen. If they didn't there wouldn't really be any reason for having both. Photoshop CS4 saves a JPEG preview within the EPS file and works perfectly. There are arguements over Eps vs other file formats but EPS is not a lossy format and there are work flows that prefere them and clipping paths etc...

     

    I think one has to accept that there is no longer any support for that.

     

    See this discussion and it clearly shows there was an issue and that there was no bug fix for CS5 on this and it has continued into CS6. A staff member said it was a fault/bug.
    http://forums.adobe.com/message/3169457

     

    I have gone back to CS4.

     
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    Nov 6, 2012 3:42 PM   in reply to Howard Freeborn

    The only bug mentioned was not removing all the PICT options when we removed PICT support (because MacOS no longer supports PICT).

     
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