I have just installed CS6 upgrading from CS4. I am doing a large project (2.5 hours of video) and have transcoded 6 sections successfully from Premier Pro using VBR-1 - the default. I saw somewhere on one of the forums that this may be a problem, but I cannot work out how to change to VBR-2 as it suggested or CBR for that matter. I have added a second sound trak and to enure this was not the problem I deleted it again.
I have tried several different options in Encore, and by increasing the max bit rate it seems to get further along, but I get the identical error. Currently, without the second sound trach and with a max bit rate of 40 it writes 4.1gb of the 31.0 gb file (it's a double layer blu-ray).
Sorry - I didn't notice the last bit dropped off.
should continue --- too high near time = 13.860000 seconds -
The complete message is then Blu-Ray Error: " file already exists", Code: "6", Note: "Video buffer undeflows. Total bitrate is too high near time = 13.860000 seconds -
Maybe I misunderstood what is happening. I thought the transcode from Premier Pro to Encore via MediaEncoder has a max bit rate of 25 using VBR-1. I also gathered that using VBR-1 it was not as accurate as it should be (sometimes it exceeded the maximum is what I thought). The bit rate in Encore I had imagined (maybe wrongly) was what rate it expected to find in the encode bits it already had - and so I increased it to try and cater for the problem. It didn't work in any case.
Is my understanding wrong?
VBR 1 pass and VBR 2 pass have the same range of avg/max rates. Some users with similar errors have fixed/workaround the issue by dropping the video datarate. Note that the error is "total bitrate." For example, the max rate is 40, putting the video only rate at 40 leaves no room for any audio.
But such errors can be complicated.
I do not do BluRay... but, as a test, and based on known dual layer DVD problems (at least with CS5) right click the Encore icon and select "Run as Administrator" from the pop up options
Note that this is NOT the same as using an Administrator account
The only reason for looking at VBR-2 is that I read a post somewhere that this is the problem - it shouldn't be but it is. How do I set it to use VBR-2? I will do whatever it takes.
In the transcoding/export settings, whether from Premiere, ame, or Encore, pick your preset, then look at the video tab at the bottom, and you should be able to change the encode settings.
If you don't see this, please describe more specifically how you are selecting the settings.
Thanks for the update idea - I had looked for Creative Suite updates, but they dont show there - don't know why.
I have now applied updates to Premier Pro and Encore. I also re-transcoded all assets from premier pro using VBR-2 with a target just under 23 and a max rate just under 25 (it wouldn't let me get 23 and 25 but just a fraction under in both cases). I then set up a completely new Encore project to ensure there was no "carry over" and tried again. This time it gets 12gb into 29gb of writing the file and then gives the same error, but with a different ridiculous number -1.04nnnn.
I'm out of ideas. Does anyone anywhere actually successfully use CS6 to write Blu-ray images - or this simply a marketing ploy for something that doesn't actually work?
This is sooooo frustrating - it gets so close, but then this bitrate thingy is a killer. Does anyone know what the actual problem is - or is it a furfie - (that maybe an Aussie expression - is it really not thast problem but that is what shows)
Hope someone can help me.
The bit rate jump that causes this error might be in very small fraction of the video. Actually this depends on the content of the video. Any time frame (it might be a fraction of second) that can not be encoded within specified Bit rate values will be encoded with higher bit rate. This higher bit rate might jump out of Blu-ray spec and hence the error. And the overall bit rate remains within specified bit rate bounds but that particular fraction is out of bounds. This is not Encore problem. Encore is reacting to what is being provided to it.
You may try further decreasing the bit rate or just the automatic encode settings in PPro.
I have discovered that if I write a DVD Image from the Encore project rather than a Blu-Ray image it drops the size from 30gb to 4.5gb and it produces a very good result. It is not HD but it is good never-the-less. I then tried using only a small piece of the timeline - about 3gb in Blu-Ray and I got the same result (an error with bitrate too high etc). I am currently trying to see what happens if I drop the target and max bitrates even further when transcoding from PPro. What does the bitrate in Encore actually do. The default is 15 but it can be set up to 40 - what should I set it at and does it make any difference.
Also, I notice that I have an inconsistency from earlier work using PPro4 in that I used MP3 sound files in PPro. I am not sure what sound files I should use in Encore but I am currently using .wav out of Audio Audition 6.
Thanks for your help - I at least now have a DVD but not Blu-ray yet.
The DVD bit rate setting is too low and there is a lot of compression and data loss going there. So there should not be any problem as far as bit rate is concerned.
The Bit rate in Encore is used in Automatic presets. When you bring in an asset in Encore which needs transcoding, then this bit rate setting will decide the transcode.
And also slideshow and motion menus use this bit rate for transcoding.
For all who are interested.
I tried reducing to a portion to save time in testing various approaches. I have just successfully written a blu-ray file of that smaller section, and so now I will try the whole project using the similar settings.
I tried CBR rather than VBR-2 and set the rate at 20. That is what has worked. I am now trying CBR and 25 to see if I can get that bit rate up a bit, but if not I will go back to do the whole project at 20.
Thank you to all who contributed. I think I might have solved the problem. I'll be back but it is a full day's encoding to get to the next step.
Well now I have successfully written a blu-ray image of the whole project - 31gb of it - and that includes two sound tracks and subtitles. I used CBR from PremierPro and a rate of 25 for the whole project. The rate in Encore I left at 40 but I am not sure that is used unless it imports untranscoded assets. I am currently burning this to a double layered rewritable to see what it looks like on a big TV - but I have done this dozens of times before using CS4 successfully and so I expect no problems. If there are I will post them here obviously.
Overall I think CS6 is smoother and faster, but this was a bit of a hitch.
Mnay thanks again
Hi I think I have the same problem you had and it has been 2 weeks of doing this from scratch each time.
Blu-ray Error: ”file already exists”, Code: ”6”, Note: ” Video buffer underflows”, Total bitrate is too high near time =
This is the message I get. My question is...What you did was to export your audio and video from adobe pro in h264bluray using CBR at 25 to make it work? or what extensions should I use to make it work. Right now I ´ve chosen M4v and wav for audio but honestly I did not see the bitrate I used. Thanks
I think the main thing was the CBR 25 - I set up a “user” Preset & Group in Media encoder called “HD 1080i 25 My Try” with a format of H.264 Blu-ray
Video is 1920x1080, 25fps, upper bit rate 25.00; CBR, Target 25.00 Mbps Audio PCM, 48kHz Stereo - Custom
Field Order is Upper First
Aspect Square Pixels(1.0)
Use Maximum Render Quality
This works for me every time flawlessly now.
Hope that helps!
BINGO!! thanks a lot piccadillypunter. I used H264 bluray ac3 for audio and CBR at 25. One more thing I did though was to run every program in Adobe as administrator and disabled UAC. It ran smoothly and finished without any errors. I haven´t seen the result yet since I will burn the image ASAP. But it does feel great to see this finished without any window emerging. Thanks a lot for your support.
It did help!!
Does Imgburn burn bluray iso image too?
I just use the windows 64bit program to burn – it works fine – incidentally, bluray media is a very high price here in Oz retail – I bought rewritable dual layer bluray from Japan – excellent media and less than a tenth the price – not only that I can do rewitables until I am happy with the result and then burn a once only one.
I am very happy with CS6 now – works beautifully.