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Adding media into Adobe Premiere Elements

Nov 10, 2012 2:35 PM

 
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    Nov 10, 2012 2:35 PM   in reply to Community Help

    All the above information is great for a "Newbie". My problem stems from lousy codecs that are synchronized together when downloaded onto the timeline. I either get the audio track or video track, but never both together, like when I used PE 9. That setup was a dream, compared to this engineered "Hodgepodge". WHAT will I need to download( it will be at YOUR cost), so that I can start building movie projects? If I have to, I will return this junkheap and go back to premiere elements 9, again.

     
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    Nov 10, 2012 3:17 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    If you're writing to Adobe, you're in the wrong place, wildhosser. This is a user to user forum.

     

    You contact Adobe by clicking the Contact Adobe button on their site.

     

    If you want help from us, you're going to have to give us a lot more information -- like what version of the program you're using, what operating system you're on, what models of camcorders your video is coming from, etc.

     
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    Nov 10, 2012 4:09 PM   in reply to Steve Grisetti

    I have a Dell Optiplex 790 PC. Intel Core i5-2400 CPU@3.10 GHz.

    4.00 GB of installed memory

    64 bit operating system

    Windows 7

     
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    Nov 10, 2012 4:27 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    Read Bill Hunt on a file type as WRAPPER http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037

    What is a CODEC... a Primer http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811

    What CODEC is INSIDE that file? http://forums.adobe.com/thread/440037

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    Report back with the codec details of your file, use the programs below... a screen shot works well to SHOW people what you are doing

    http://forums.adobe.com/thread/592070?tstart=30

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    For PC http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en or http://www.headbands.com/gspot/

     
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    Nov 10, 2012 5:09 PM   in reply to John T Smith

    I read all of that gentleman's tutorial on all 'codecs', and it still does not help me with my issues. Which codecs would or will work the best at making all of the saved video clips work smoothly. I was really happy with the performance of PE 9. I never had any avi/media issues, ever. I am not computer/media/audio/video savvy, in terms of what to install and what to stay clear of(codec packs). If ya'll can not help me out, then I might have to get some Adobe tech help. Thank you all a lot. wildhosser

     
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    Nov 10, 2012 7:46 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    And unfortunately you still haven't given us the model numbers of the camcorders your video is coming from, so we aren't able to ascertain the format, codec and resolution of your files.

     
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    Nov 11, 2012 7:05 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    Unfortunately, the answer to getting AV files to Import and edit, will depend on what you have.

     

    If you could please list the CODEC's (Video is extremely important, but Audio CODEC's can be important too), then we can look at those, and make specific recommendations.

     

    There are probably 1,000+ possible Video CODEC's, and several 100, that are fairly common. However, the list of CODEC's, that work with Adobe NLE's (Non Linear Editors), is limited to a much smaller sub-set, as there are many CODEC's, that are "delivery only," and were never meant to be edited.

     

    There is no one answer, with a bunch of Video CODEC's. Some might work well, some not so well, and more - not at all.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     

    PS - Adobe offers a 30-day, money-back guarantee, and if you are dissatisfied, then just contact Adobe, within 30-days of purchase, and return it for your $ back.

     
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    Nov 11, 2012 8:06 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: I went to WMP, followed the steps to get the codec

    information(Organize, on to Layout, then clicked 'show menu bar', then

    Nothing happened from there). Understand, I am not computer literate, but I

    do follow instructions really well. I will get whatever information that

    you need to help in correcting whatever is going on in my PC. Thanks--Larry

     
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    Nov 12, 2012 7:16 AM   in reply to wildhosser

    What was the CODEC used in the Video? That might tell the story.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 12, 2012 6:00 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: Here is the lowdown on what is really happening. I know how to

    download video files, from multiple sources, then convert those media files

    to avi with converter programs. I have WMP and VLC, and all the files that

    have been converted play extremely well. When I open up Adobe PE 11 to

    start the project building, I first check in the 'Elements Organizer' on

    the quality of the video I want to work with in PE 11. It does play great,

    but the minute I try putting into the video/audio timeline or into media

    assets, this is where all the problems begin. When the avi is put into

    timeline, I get video or audio, but never both. Sometimes I will get both

    audio and video, but the audio has no sound to it.I am using Internet

    Explorer 8 that came with PC, and there are many times where IE 8 just

    gives up and says there is a problem, and it will try to find a

    solution(this could be the result of my impatience). I never had these

    issues with PE 9. Codecs, you will have to lead me by the nose, so that I

    can get you the necessary answers that you need. Thanks a TON-Larry Miller

     
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    Nov 12, 2012 7:52 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    This is what I just found out. When I went to play some cd's on wmp, it

    would not play them for any reason. Could that be a clue?????????????

     
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    Nov 13, 2012 9:52 AM   in reply to wildhosser

    Larry,

     

    There are great differences between playing a file and editing a file. In the first case, the software player is directly accessing the media file from the HDD. With editing, the file must be Decoded, and often converted (internally) to a full I-Frame file, for Frame-specific editing. Many files use an Encoding (CODEC), that has one I-Frame about every 12 - 15 frames, with "difference Frames" in between. That cannot be edited, so full I-Frame must be created. This is GOP (Group of Pictures) structure, and does not affect outside playback, but does with editing. This article goes into more detail: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2722687#2722687

     

    Also, see this FAQ Entry for more info on CODEC's, in general: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811?tstart=0

     

    Note: success with editing media files will depend greatly on the exact CODEC's used to Encode the file.

     

    For more info on playing vs editing, see John T's article: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1066154?tstart=0

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 13, 2012 9:54 AM   in reply to wildhosser

    When I went to play some cd's on wmp, it would not play them for any reason.

    Larry,

     

    I am lost here. What is the format of the files on the CD's?

     

    Is this a Video-CD (VCD), or just a CD-Data, with files stored on it? If so, what is the format, and CODEC used in that/those file(s)?

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 13, 2012 8:09 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    I corrected the audio playing issues for wmp(there still was a PE 9 audio

    software still installed in pc, took it out-everything there is ok.

     
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    Nov 13, 2012 8:24 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    Great news, and thank you for posting with updated info.

     

    Good luck, and happy editing,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 14, 2012 12:08 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: Nothing is downloading correctly from Elements Organizer to the PE 11

    timeline. Also, importing a video file from my computer's hard drive

    directly to the timeline also fails. We still have to find which codecs are

    missing, so I will need some direction as to: How do I go about and do

    this??? Thanks--Larry

     
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    Nov 14, 2012 3:57 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    Nothing is downloading correctly from Elements Organizer to the PE 11

    timeline. Also, importing a video file from my computer's hard drive

    directly to the timeline also fails.

    Maybe it is just terminology, but let's take a look at the above statements. Importing files places them in the Project's Media Panel (actually, the files, themselves, are NOT placed in the Project, but just links to them, but they are displayed in that Panel). From the Project's Media Panel, one drags the files, in whichever order they choose, to the Timeline.

     

    Are you saying that the files are not Importing into the Project? Is so, what is the error message that you get?

     

    Did we ever determine the exact Video CODEC in those files with either G-Spot, or MediaInfo? If so, then I missed it.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 14, 2012 3:59 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    For more background on Importing AV files into PrE, Steve Grisetti has a wonderful Basic Training Series on Muvipix: http://muvipix.com/products.php?searchphrase=basic+training&btn.x=16&b tn.y=10

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 14, 2012 5:08 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: I downloaded g-spot into my computer, but don't really understand how

    to make it work, so that it can check the avi files for codec content.What

    is strange about all this, is that all the video files play correctly

    outside of PE 11. When I play the same files in Elements organizer, there

    is no issue there, either. It is when I drop those same video files into

    the timeline is where all the issues begin. When I try to directly import a

    avi file from the computer hard-drive into the media assets drop-down, and

    then 2x click to start an editing process, all I get is a White screen.

     
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    Nov 14, 2012 5:42 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    Launch G-Spot, and then just drag your file to the GUI, after it surveys your system. Do a screen-cap of the G-Spot screen, with that file loaded. That will tell us almost everything.

     

    As for the playability, that is very different, than editing the same file. See the link in Reply 12 for full details.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 17, 2012 8:15 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: Here is what I have found out. I installed G-Spot onto my PC, and

    starting scanning all avi/video files in my hard-drive. All have good

    supporting audio/video codecs, even the files that I converted from analog

    to digital, done via a Canopus video converter. The videos all play great

    on either wmp or vlc, or even the Elements Organizer of Adobe Premiere

    Elements 11. But when it comes to transferring the same videos to PE 11's

    timeline, that is where the issues begin. The same thing happens when I try

    to transfer a video file from hard-drive directly into the media assets

    drop down box(of PE 11). When I 2x click to start the editing process, all

    I get is,well nothing. When I try to drag and drop the videp from tyhe

    Elements Organizer, I either get just the video track, or I get both audio

    and the video tracks, but the sound was dropped. Will I have to contact

    Adobe direct for help? Thanks-Larry

     
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    Nov 17, 2012 8:56 AM   in reply to wildhosser

    Larry,

     

    What is G-Spot showing for the Video CODEC, in the faulting file?

     

    Editing a file is very different, than just playing it back in a software player. What you get in Organizer is just playback, using it as a software player. The software player will be reading the file directly from the HDD, and can use more CODEC's, than PrE can edit with. Some CODEC's are just for delivery, and playback, and are not meant for editing. Two common ones are Xvid and DivX - they are designed for delivery/playback only.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 17, 2012 3:56 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill Hunt: Please explain in simpler terms(remember that I do not speak the

    computer language very well) what you are referring to, when you led off

    with this: Video CODEC, in the faulting file?

    In the 2nd part, I understood what you were referring to, referring to the

    editing process, are you saying that PE 11 might be missing some editing

    codecs?

     
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    Nov 17, 2012 4:16 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    OK, you have at least one AV file, that is causing an issue, when Importing to PrE. There may be more. If all are the same CODEC, then just let us know what that CODEC is, as reported by G-Spot.

     

    With some CODEC's, just having them properly installed on the system will not guarantee that PrE can edit that/those CODEC(s).

     

    In general, there are three "types" of CODEC for Video (and similar for Audio, but that is usually simpler):

     

    1. CODEC's for playback (most fall into this category)
    2. CODEC's for Encoding from a program (fewer here, but still many fall into this category)
    3. CODEC's for editing (small number of CODEC in this category, and it can differ, editing-program to editing-program)

     

    For more info on CODEC's, see this FAQ Entry: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/546811?tstart=0

     

    CODEC's are a very complex subject, and about the time that one learns all the details, then the camera mfgrs. change things up, so it is an on-going process. However, grasping the general concepts, and learning some of the popular CODEC's will be very helpful, if one is editing video. For playback, it is less complex, and many software players will even lead you to a Web site, to download a necessary CODEC for playback. Other players, like VLC Player and MediaPlayer Classic HC (both good and free), contain many of the common CODEC's, so one does not even need to install them on their system.

     

    One temptation is to find CODEC "packs," and install those. However, I warn against just randomly downloading and installing CODEC's, even if they are free. I strongly recommend ONLY installing the exact CODEC, when it is needed. With many CODEC packs, two negative things can happen: as most are free, they have hacked, or reverse-engineered versions of many CODEC's, and will overwrite existing, commercial CODEC's, already on the system. Also, many install all sorts of other "stuff," and some of that can really mess things up for many Adobe programs. Adobe tries to "hide" its MainConcept CODEC's, by using a non-conventional naming scheme. This keeps some of those CODEC packs from overwriting those, but the CODEC pack can still alter the priority of a CODEC in the Registry, and that can cause issues.

     

    When I need a specific CODEC, I try to go to the source, even if it is a CODEC, that I have to buy. Not all free CODEC's are bad, and two great ones are Lagarith Lossless and UT Lossless. I use both for intermediate files, that will be Exported, and then re-edited, perhaps in another program. Free is not necessarily a bad thing, but given a choice between a free version of a CODEC, and a commercial version, from the company that wrote it, I will pay the $'s every time.

     

    Good luck, and hope that helps,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 17, 2012 5:46 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Hunt:By by reckoning, and from what your initial response was, how do I go

    about checking out the codecs on PE 11? Where or which file would I

    download into G-Spot, so I can start the process of finding which of the av

    file codec(s) I would need to attempt a try at correcting the problem of

    importing avi files into PE 11? Would contacting tech help at Adobe be a

    better route? I do not feel comfortable at paying somebody to fix a problem

    that wasn't my doing!  Miller

     
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    Nov 17, 2012 5:54 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    OK, you have an AV file, that is giving you problems in PrE. Load that file into G-Spot, or MediaInfo.

     

    I would post a screen-cap of the screen, either G-Spot, or MediaInfo, showing the detected CODEC. At this point, we do not need to know if the CODEC is installed, but what it is.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 9:48 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: Here is what I found out for codec information, after I downloaded a

    Youtube video, then converted from flv  to an 'avi'  file. I dropped this

    video, which played from my pc's hard-drive, using wmp. After loading it

    onto PE 11's timeline, it only played the video portion. I went back and

    ran the file through G-Spot, and here are the spec.'s: AUDIO--codec: mp4c.

    MPEG4 AAC LC. INFO: 44100 Hz, 96kb/s tot  stereo (2/0) Stat: Status

    Undetermined.. VIDEO--codec: AVC 1, Name: H264/MPEG4 AVC. Status

    Undetermined. This video was not converted from a video tape source onto

    the computer's hard-drive(digital). I hope this helps so that I can stop

    being a bother to you, and I hope you and all your family have a Very Happy

    Thanksgiving.  Larry

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 2:08 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    OK, I would step back, and NOT convert the FLV to an AVI w/ the H.264 AVCHD CODEC.

     

    PrE is not likely going to be able to handle H.264 in an AVI wrapper. I would chose a conversion setting, or perhaps another converter, to wrap that h.264 in either an MP4, or MTS (more common for AVCHD). Those formats w/ the H.264 will more likely Import and edit fine.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 20, 2012 6:19 PM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: After your last reply to my posting, I found the answer WITH your

    help. It turned out that on PE 11, it will only play videos, as long they

    are MPEG4 filed. That was the trick, and I thank you ever so much for all

    your patience. Larry

     
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    Nov 20, 2012 9:12 PM   in reply to wildhosser

    Larry,

     

    While PrE will edit a great deal of files, format and CODEC, it will not handle everything. Many of us play a balancing game, as we work with what a client hands us. Some, only deal with the footage from their camcorders.

     

    When things do not go correctly, sometimes a conversion is the best course of action.

     

    So glad that you found the right combination to edit, as you needed.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Nov 21, 2012 3:30 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Bill: All your help was the largest reason a solution was found. Have a

    wonderful Thanksgiving and a very Happy Holiday Season. Larry

     
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    Nov 21, 2012 7:20 AM   in reply to wildhosser

    Larrry,

     

    Thank you for the kind words, and the very best Holidays to you and yours, as well.

     

    Hunt

     
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    Feb 26, 2013 5:13 PM   in reply to Community Help

    Hi Bill

    i just purchased PR 11 and am having trouble with editing my camera is a canon hsf200 and the source file is MTS Im working on a mac os x 10.6 It imports the files no problems but no way would it edit MTS flowingly in particular with any effects or transitions very slow and freezing so I created some proxy files ( in handbrake gives three options H264 , Mpeg - 4 and Mpeg -2 really small bit rate and frame rate still freezing and lagging on me

    any help apprecited ):

     
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    Feb 26, 2013 8:03 PM   in reply to Bobby...

    What are the specs. of your Mac?

     

    MTS files are encoded with the H.264 CODEC, and it is very CPU intensive to edit.

     

    Good luck,

     

    Hunt

     
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    Feb 27, 2013 4:50 AM   in reply to Community Help

    Hi bill

    The specs are 10.6.8 mac os x

    processor 3.06 ghz intel core 2 duo

    4gb memory

    thank

     

     

     
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    Feb 27, 2013 6:57 AM   in reply to Bobby...

    For editing AVCHD, or any H.264 CODEC material, a fast Quad-core is about the minimum, with a fast i7 being better.

     

    Processing H.264 material takes a lot of CPU power, and other than editing with proxy files, or using something like CineForm's NeoScene, there is just not much that can be done, other than to replace the CPU.

     

    For an article on proxy file editing, see: http://forums.adobe.com/message/3042383#3042383

     

    Hunt

     
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    Feb 27, 2013 11:47 AM   in reply to Bill Hunt

    Thank Bil

    Godbless

     
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