I am a new lightroom user on Lightroom 4.2. When I import pictures from my SD Card I usually leave copies on the card for a while so I have them as backup, and to also be able to see recent pics on my camera. However each time I go to import pictures from that card within LR, it defaults to selecting all pics on my SD card even though I have the "New Photos" filter selected at the top of the import box. It always puts all my photos in the "New Photos" section, so I have to deselect all the photos that I have already imported into my catalogue so I don't get duplicates. How do I get LR to only import pics that haven't been imported bfore?
I am aware of the "Don't Import Suspected Duplicates" option, but that is not the samea as what I am looking for. It only deselects photos that still exist in my catalogue. Any photos that I have deleted from my catalogue remain selected in the import box as it doesn't see any duplicates.
Any suggestions to what I'm missing to have LR only select photos that haven't been previously imported from that card?
But a work-around:
TreeSyncPublisher has a feature called "Card Publishing". It's intention is for travelers using cards as secondary or tertiary backup, but it could be used under any circumstances. Here's how it works:
After import, you publish selected (or all) photos back to the card, as backup, and they are then deleted from the area of the card looked at by Lightroom in the import dialog box.
The idea is to balance percent of card storage used for new photos vs. backed up photos as you go... At the beginning of the trip, all is for new photos, none are backed up. Towards the end of the trip, mostly full with backups, only enough for a day's shoot free for new photos... Need more room to shoot? remove some photos from the card-publishing collections.
Note: one can define multiple card publishing services, e.g.
* original (raw) photos - published collection can contain all photos at start of trip; only picks and rated photos toward the end, or none.
* cooked photos - can contain everything in the beginning, for universal show-n-tell; and be pared down as the trip wears on, if need be...
Note: Like Lightroom, your camera won't see these as "photos" either, but they may be viewable via HDMI port, or computer, depending on format and viewing software...
Thanks Rob, appreciate the suggestion.
I do like that it simplifies backing up the edited versions of the photos to the cards, but I guess my needs are more about having the pics viewable by the camera for reviewing later, sharing with others etc., more so than backing up. I shoot mostly family & friends as a non-pro, so like to have most of my recent pics viewable on the camera when I visit others. It also seems like more steps / work to move them off the card and back on again instead of LR just keeping track of what it has already copied.
Can anyone else confirm that the "new photos" feature on the import dialogue is supposed to work this way? Perhaps I am just trying to get something to work that was not designed as I think it was. Windows Photo Gallery works this way, so I assumed LR would have a similar feature.
I'm not entirely sure from your problem description, but are the 'old' photos that appear in the 'New Photos' display ones that you previously imported and subsequently removed from the catalog? If so, what you are seeing is entirely normal and logical.....once an image is removed from the catalog Lightroom retains NO record or memory of it....so if you re-present that file in the Import dialog it will quite correctly be regarded as a "New Photo".
If, OTOH, you are seeing images in the "New Photos" import section that are already in the catalog, and "Don't Import Susepected Duplicates" is checked, then that sounds more like a bug.
I think "Copy New Photos" is working correctly.
A deleted photo from LR is ....deleted
So LR thinks it's new again on your card. That's why you leave them on the card, do you ? How would you LR to import a file you inadvertently deleted ?
In fact I do exactly as you do, but I only mark my photos to delete (and label them Red -to be able to filter them out, as you can not filter on unflagged only) and then delete them definitively from LR as I reformat my SD card.
Thanks Jim & Frans, let me clarify what I am currently experiencing with these 2 functions:
The "new photos" check box does not impact the number of photos selected for import, regardless if they are still in my catalogue or not. So, even though my card has a mixture of pictures that have been previously imported and not imported, LR selects all the photos on the card for importing. Checking or unchecking the "new photos" box, does not change the number of pictures selected for import. I was hoping that selecting the "new photos" box would deselect any photots that have been previoulsy imported, but that is not the case, there is no change in the number of photos selected.
The "Don't Import Suspected Duplicates" works as I expect it would. When I check this box LR deselects any photos that still exist in my library. While this works as expected, it doesn't serve what I would I am trying to acheive. It is not very often that I would want to re-import photos that I have deleted from my library. I likely deleted them because I don't want them anymore.
To summarize, here is what I would "expect" to happen, just not sure if it is "supposed" to happen:
Checking "New Photos" should deselect any pictures that have been previously imported to LR, regardless if they are still in the library.
Checking "Don't Import Duplicates" should deselct any pictures that still exist in the library.
If that's not the case, then perhaps someone could explain the purpse of the "new photos" check box.
Not sure how else to explain this:
"All Photos" will show all the images on the card or in the selected folder(s), regardless of their "new" or "existing" status. With "Don't Import Suspected Duplicates" checked, the "existing" images will be non-selectable, all others will be selected by default. With that option unchecked, all images are selectable.
When "Don't Import Suspected Duplicates" is checked "New Photos" will show only those images which Lightroom has no current knowledge of. And as we've already said, Lightroom retains no knowledge of a previously imported and subsequently removed photo....therefore any such files will be regarded as "new". When "Don't Import Suspected Duplicates" is unchecked, every image on the card/folder will be regarded as "new" and in this context there will be zero difference between "All Photos" and "New Photos".
I understand that your expectation is that Lightroom will remember that you previously imported and removed an image, and so not show it again as "new"....but that's not how it works.
Ok, thanks for clarifying everyone. Too bad it doesn't work that way. I'm surprised that LR doesn't have this feature as many of the free software offerings do. I used to use Windows Live Photo Gallery, and it worked perfectly, automatically only selecting photos that haven't been previoiusly imported regardless if the files were still on the PC or not. It also works well to import multiple shoots from different days into different folders in one process without having to do multiple imports. Guess I can move my posts over to the feature request board.