I wonder if there is something I don't know about these two things that are fairly annoying to me when using Premiere all the time.
1) Rendering anything for previewing at normal speed when there are non-real time effects applied requires setting a start and an end to the work area, which involves either a few mouse movements or keystrokes, not terrible but way more than other NLEs. In Edius for example, it's as easy as clicking on the clip to be rendered, pressing Shift+G (or whatever shortcut you assigned) and then it's rendering. In Vegas there's also a work area, but it's as easy as dragging the mouse pointer over the wanted area while keeping the mouse button down. In Premiere, even if you set the work area IN and OUT shortcuts to [ and ] like I did, you still have to go to the beginning of the clip, press [, then go to the end and press ] to set the range. When this is done several times a day it becomes annoying.
2) In most NLEs, whatever the work area was set to be, if the preview rendering is stopped at some point, the rendered frames stay rendered. Even in the classic FCP (which sucks in so many ways compared to Premiere), each frame that was rendered stays rendered even if I cancel the rendering mid way, but in Premiere if I do the same I lose everything, which is absurd because the preview rendering format always has only I frames, and even if it had any P or B frames it could just cut at the end of the last completed GOP.
So are these two things just design flaws in Premiere, or have I missed something?
For the WAB (Work Area Bar), have you tried setting its In & Out Points with the [ and ] keys at the location of the CTI/Play Head? (Do not think that has been changed?)
As far back as I can remember, PrPro will retain Rendered Clips, but do not ever recall it keeping Rendered Frames. Sounds like a good candidate for a Feature Request: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/878528?tstart=0
Good luck,
Hunt
Bill Hunt wrote:
For the WAB (Work Area Bar), have you tried setting its In & Out Points with the [ and ] keys at the location of the CTI/Play Head? (Do not think that has been changed?)
I'm not sure what you mean. What I do is this. Let's suppose I added whatever filter to a clip that is not MPE accelerated, I have to press the ↑ key to go to the first frame of the clip, press [, then press ↓ to go to the last, press ] and then press Enter. Too many steps for what in other NLEs is done with a right click and selecting render, or a simple shortcut like Shift+G on Edius, or Command+R in the old FCP. Like I said in my first post, this wouldn't be a problem if it was needed just a few times a day, but when you are working on something where you need to do it dozens of times, it becomes annoying.
OK, I just remembered a third annoyance, this one perhaps the worst because it's more time consuming. If I had rendered two clips and I decide to apply a transition afterwards, both clips become unrendered, which in the case of two long clips, can make you waste several minutes to render both all over again. Quite absurd, and as far as I can recall, no other NLE does that.
Adobe should really take a look at the other professional NLEs and implement features ASAP, in some things Premiere is several years behind, like this, not being able to save transitions as presets, etc.
Jim Simon wrote:
Let's suppose I added whatever filter to a clip that is not MPE accelerated, I have to press...
If you leave the WAB alone (beginning/end of sequence), you can just hit the Enter key. It'll render.
Sure, along with every other clip that has a non-accelerated filter applied to it. My point is that there should be an easy way to render just the clip you're working on, that doesn't involve so many keystrokes.
Sebasvideo wrote:
I don't understand. That, like you said, selects In and Out points. To render a preview you need to set a work area.
You can turn off the work area bar, it's an option in the sequence panel controls. You're then given different options for how to set your render, including "Render in to out". You can customise a keyboard shortcut for that. Then Shift+/ followed by your Render in to out shortcut, and you've reduced the keystrokes to render a clip.
SimonHy wrote:
You can turn off the work area bar, it's an option in the sequence panel controls. You're then given different options for how to set your render, including "Render in to out". You can customise a keyboard shortcut for that. Then Shift+/ followed by your Render in to out shortcut, and you've reduced the keystrokes to render a clip.
Well, thank you sir, that was actually very helpful
. No more dealing with the work area annoyance.
Now if you know a way to solve the other two I'll proclaim you King of Premiere ![]()
a way to solve the other two
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
(Does this now make me King James?)
Regarding having to re-render two clips when the adjoing transition was removed.
I have seen this behavior, but generally only when I applied a complex third party effect (e..g, Boris FX) that had keyframes. I suspect that this may be due too the change in length in the clips. As I understand it, when your render two clips with a transition, you end up with three clips: the first clip less the transition, the area under the transition, and the second clip less the transition. Take the transition out and you now have two rendered clips.
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