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How to automatically start chapter on verso?

Nov 19, 2012 12:53 PM

Hi all,

 

I'm finding it puzzling to figure this one out...

 

I have a book document, and the first chapter ends on recto.

 

The next chapter begins, automatically, on recto as well... I need to to start on verso.

 

Odd thing is, one chapter in the book is behaving... but I can't figure out why.

 

What setting controls this?

 

thanks,

Andrew

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    Nov 19, 2012 1:22 PM   in reply to turner111

    You're looking for the "keep options" -- altctrlj by default. You want

    to "start paragraph on odd page".

     

    Ariel

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 1:22 PM   in reply to turner111

    Oh, actually, you don't want it on an odd page.

     

    So select the first paragraph of the chapter, and set it to "start

    paragraph on next page"

     

    Ariel

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 1:38 PM   in reply to turner111

    Are the images anchored in the text, or floating free?

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 1:47 PM   in reply to turner111

    If they're not anchored inthe text, how do the get into the document? Seems like you ought to be able to place them whrever you want them...

     

    I'm, obviously, a little confused.

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 1:56 PM   in reply to turner111

    To get the option to show up, you have to select some text, or have your

    cursor in some text. It's a text option, not a page option.

     

    If the first page of the chapter is all graphics, and if they are not

    anchored objects, there is no simply way you can force that page to

    always be a recto that I know of.

     

    You'll need to manually add a page before.

     

    There may be a way to play around with the pages in the pages palette

    (don't allow pages to shuffle, or something like that) -- but I think it

    would be more trouble that it's worth.

     

    Ariel

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 3:28 PM   in reply to turner111

    But you are saying the chapter start is not a page of text. That's the problem.

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 3:47 PM   in reply to turner111

    Is the text for each chapter a separate story of do you have one continuous flow?

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 4:19 PM   in reply to turner111

    You aren't really answering the questions, so it's hard to figure out what your document structure is.

     

    If you've used styles, and the first paragragh in the first page of your chapter has a Keep Option as part of the style, or one has been applied as local formatting, and that keep option specifies a page to start on, then that is going to control what page that paragraph will occupy.

     

    Perhaps you could show us some screen shots of this chapter changeover.

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 4:39 PM   in reply to turner111

    OK.

     

    You're using a Book to combine files. That's important information that wasn't included before. Page flow in a book is controlled by the numbering options you choose for both the Book and the individual files, and whether you need to update the page numbering.

     

    ID presumes that odd numbered pages are rectos and evens are versos in left-to-right languages. If you've set things up to continue from previous number in the docs and the book numbering options, and the various files are open, the numbering should update and the pages will swap sides if you change the page counts by a single page (this can, by the way, cause a lot of trouble if you have master objects that you override).

     
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    Nov 19, 2012 7:11 PM   in reply to turner111

    When you say book dodument most of us see document and presume you are creating a book in one file, a common technique.

     

    Have you synchronized the numbering?

     

    When you go to Book Page Numbering Options from the Book panel flyout menu does the dialog look like this?

    Book Page Numbering Options.png

     

    When you check the Numbering and Section Options from the Pages panel flyout menu withe first page of your second (and subsequent) chapter(s) does the dialog look like this (your page numbers and chapter number will be different, but it must be set to automatic)?

    Book Numbering Doc Section Options.png

     

    A failure of your pages to flow properly indicates a problem in one of these areas.

     
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    Nov 20, 2012 5:08 AM   in reply to turner111

    I thought of one other possibility this morning for why a page doesn't change sides, and that would be if you've disabled shuffling for the spread or the document.

     
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    Nov 20, 2012 6:30 AM   in reply to turner111

    Happens to all of us...

     
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