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[Indd CS5.5 v7.5.3] Textframes: Convert To Ellipse depends on Inset Spacing Settings: Bug? Feature?

Dec 2, 2012 3:03 AM

Tags: #indesign_cs5.5 #text_frames #osx-10.6.8 #convert_to_ellipse #inset_spacing_settings

Hello, all!

 

While fiddling with some convert to shape options in InDesign CS5.5 (OSX 10.6.8), I came across a phenenomen when doing that with text frames.
See the following screen shots:

 

1. Two square text frames with different inset spacing settings will be converted to two different ovals:

 

ConvertShapeToEllipse_BugOrFeature.png

 

 

2. There is a method in the madness. See the overlapping objects and their inset spacing settings:

 

OverlappingResults.png

 

 

Clearly you can see that it depends on the inset spacing settings what will happen. If the inset spacing settings are all even on all sides of the square text frame, converting a square to an oval will get you a circle. If not, you end up with an oval that uses the first value of the inset spacing together with the rectangle that form all inset spacing settings of the original text frame to determine its shape.

 

The same applies, if you convert to triangles or polygons (I have shifted the bottom polygon a bit to the right to show the effect more clearly):

 

OverlappingResults_Polygon.png

 

Question is: do we have here a bug or a feature?

Should I send a bug report?
Or does someone base a part of his/her workflow on that "feature"?

 

Uwe

 
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    Dec 2, 2012 3:40 AM   in reply to Laubender

    I would say this falls more towards feature than bug. Ovals, after all, can only have a single inset value as they don't have defined  top, bottom, left and right segments, and the behavior you've discovered at least matches the new shape to the aspect ratio of the text block itself.

     

    If you wanted to have unbalanced insets inside an oval you'd need to do something similar to what Dave Saunders did with text wrap around ovals in his Wrap Nudger script. It would be interesting to see if someone can come up with a way to calculate a smooth, but offset, inset for an oval without using two frames.

     
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    Dec 2, 2012 1:24 PM   in reply to Laubender

    Its is a feature request.

     

    I don't know scripting but in InDesign there is pre-defined script called "PathEffects" which has a option to make Oval.

    If you run the scripts on your samples again then the result would be the same, once I read the scripting notes I didn't see anything significant highlighting the text box property maniplulating the Anchor point calculation.

     

    You know scripting better then I do, having a look on the script code may help you understand it.

     
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