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How do you get bulleted list lines that overflow frame to indent properly?

Dec 5, 2012 11:10 AM

Hi all,

 

How do i configure InDesign to automatically indent bulleted list lines that overflow the text frame.

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thanks

 
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    Dec 5, 2012 12:59 PM   in reply to nados

    Add the amount of left indent that you want and then add a negative indent of the same value to the first line in the paragraph style

     
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    Dec 5, 2012 1:14 PM   in reply to nados

    Unlike all word processors, InDesign doesn't make (most ofter wrong) typographic design decisions for you, something appreciated by professional typesetters.

     
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    Dec 5, 2012 1:37 PM   in reply to nados

    If you follow Peter's advice, you will find that InDesign indeed provides this option. And you can "turn it off" as well, not something you can do with your average word processor or email client...

     
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    Dec 5, 2012 2:05 PM   in reply to nados

    The problem with automatic settings in programs like Word is that one size does not fit all. The amount of indent you want will depend on your column width and the type size, and maybe even the bullet character you choose, as well as any personal aesthetic considerations you might have.

     
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    Dec 5, 2012 2:09 PM   in reply to nados

    Ok, but I'm surprised that Indesign does not do this automatically like all  word processors and email clients do!  Even this forum's message input form list option can do it automatically!

     

    Maybe you were looking for Type -> Bulleted & Numbered Lists -> Apply Bullets? You select the text you want to turn into a list, and it automagically applies the bullet and the correct amount negative indent. You can also adjust it under the Bullets and Numbering section of your paragraph style.

     

    Fact of the matter is that InDesign can do it automatically, but you will find very few people in this forum (chock-full of InDesign experts) who will tell you that Apply Bullets is a better tool than building your own list in a paragraph style. In fact, it seems that they don't even remember it's there! The only reason I'm really familiar with it is that I often Convert Bullets and Numbering to Text on a daily basis, which appears in the same sub-menu and converts bullets from what you want to what Peter and Jongware (and I) prefer.

     
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    Dec 5, 2012 2:13 PM   in reply to Joel Cherney

    I tend to shun away from CS4's halfhearted implementation and prefer my hand-made lists. At least these don't need manual overrides or a second style to "re-start at 1"

     

    But I do prefer converting existing lists (iff not too complicated) into ID's Own for text to be converted to an e-pub. Since I use CS5.5 to do so, not CS6, I get what I want in my e-pub: a perfectly good HTML Ordered or Unordered List. Well, that, and the default formatting. You win some, you lose some.

     
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    Dec 5, 2012 4:17 PM   in reply to nados

    Indents in auto-bulleted lists derive from the current paragraph style and local formatting. If I start a brand-new document, and enter three paragraphs in Basic Paragraph style, with no indenting whatsoever, and then apply auto-bullets, I get 1p6 worth of indent. In order to figure out why auto-bulleting is behaving the way it is in your document, there are a number of variables to examine. In what paragraph style is your sample set?  What are the indent and tab positions set to in the Bulleting and Numbering section of that paragraph style?

     

    The "First Line Left Indent" value should have been (-0.75 in).

     

    How so? I thought you said you set it to -0.25 inches.

     

    In general, dealing with this particular toolset in ID makes me balder & greyer faster than is warranted by my genes, so I am with Jongware here: I'd rather just do it all myself. I was also doing my own ordered lists with hand-tooled code in epub; I'll have to give this a try in CS5.5 to see how easy it is.

     
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