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Drawing arcs using the arc tool

Dec 11, 2012 1:34 PM

Tags: #tool #arc

The arc tool draws 90 degree arcs by default. How can I draw an arc with a different angle, say 45 degrees? Or, how can I adjust the angle of an arc?

 
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    Dec 11, 2012 2:50 PM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    Double-click the tool in the Toolbar.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:12 PM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    Ahh... Illustrator doesn't do tangents. The Arc tool is not a CAD tool, unfortunately. It is not meant for precise arcs.

     

    You might look into plug ins such as VectorScribe or CadTools

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:39 PM   in reply to [scott w]

    Illustrator doesn't do tangents.

     

    No, not really but you can quite easily construct tangents:

     

     

    Picture 2.png

    Start off by drawing a circle of the required radius.

    With Smart guides turned on, use Line or Pen tool to draw radii at the required angles.

    Rotate-copy the radii each by 90° about the points where they intersect the circle and bingo.

    Now all you have to do is a bit of Pathfinding to get rid of the bits you don’t want.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:44 PM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    CombinatoristAZ,

     

    Depending on the exact goal, you may do it with the normal tools or a free script. I apologize if the following is old news or completely off the goal.

     

    If you just wish to round the corner(s), you may use Effect>Stylize>Round Corner with the desired radius; you may Object>Expand Appearance to create a rounded segment.

     

    If you only wish to round one or more, but not all corners, you may use the free Round Any Corner script available here:

     

    http://park12.wakwak.com/~shp/lc/et/en_aics_script.html

     

    If you wish to create a separate arc inside one or more sharp corners, you may:

     

    1) Copy the angular path,

    2) Effect>Stylize>Round Corner with the desired radius,

    3) Object>Expand Appearance,

    4) Direct Select the relevant rounded corner(s) and Ctrl/Cmd+X+F,

    5) Delete the rest of the copy path.

     

    There are sillier ways.

     

    Edit: Hi Steve. It must be a quarter to midnight there; it is three quarters past here.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:44 PM   in reply to Steve Fairbairn

    [edit: Directed at Steve. Jacob snuck in between. ]

     

    That's eyeballing the tangent though. There's no automated method to get precise tangents in Illustrator. Smart guides are good, but they can also be incorrect at times.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:46 PM   in reply to [scott w]

    What time is it over there, Scott?

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:49 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    3:50 pm. Why ?

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:54 PM   in reply to [scott w]

    Just to know how far west you are, Scott. You are right on forum time (PST).

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 3:58 PM   in reply to Jacob Bugge

    Yup. About 1 hour from the Pacific. And not far from Cupertino or San Jose. Really close to Klammath.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 4:22 PM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    CombinatoristAZ,

     

    I don't see anything so "in the picture" and "as you see" mean very little.

     

    You may be better off using the Ellipse tool to draw what you need, then use the Scissors tool to cut the shape and delete the sections you do not want.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 4:40 PM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    Combo,

     

    The straight answer to your question is: Ridiculous as it seems, no. Illustrator's so-called Arc Tool is one of the lamest drawing tools I've ever seen in a drawing program. It is what it is, and nothing more. Practically useless.

     

    The Round Corners effect is almost as absurd. On anything other than a 90 degree corner, it does not yield what anyone in his right mind would expect as the numerically specified "radius." Often, it's "rounded corners" are not even round.

     

    JET

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 4:42 PM   in reply to JETalmage

    CombinatoristAZ

     

    Select the Arc, use the Scissor Tool to cut the path at the intersection... use the Direct Selection tool (White Arrow) to click the outer section, hit delete.

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 4:52 PM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    CombinatoristAZ wrote:

     

    ... Imagine two line segments with their ends meeting at a 45 degree angle. I want to to draw an arc inside that angle.

    Turn the Smart Guides on, with The Arc tool move the cursor over one of the lines and when the Smart Guides say "path", click on it where you want the arc to start and drag holding Shift until the Smart Guides show a straight line indicating alignment with the intersection point of the lines, then release the mouse button to create the arc.

    Take the Scissor tool move it over the intersection between arc and line and when the Smart Guides say "intersection" click there to cut the arc. Then make sure the unneeded part is selected and press Delete until it is gone.

    Untitled-1.jpg

    If the arc is not oriented properly, while drawing it press X

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 5:44 PM   in reply to emil emil

    If neither of the lines is perfectly horizontal or vertical, you will be better off to draw a circle with the Ellipse tool holding Shift and Alt to draw it from its center positioned at the intersection of the lines. Then cut the circle at the two intersection points with the lines and keep only the section you need (unselected part in the image below)

    Untitled-2.jpg

     
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    Dec 11, 2012 6:07 PM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    another way, CS5 and up

     

    shapeBuilderArc.gif

     
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    Dec 12, 2012 3:47 AM   in reply to [scott w]

    That's eyeballing the tangent though.

    No it’s not. I rotate-copied the radii by 90° and snapped the endpoints of the copies to the ends of the radii (Smart Guides said "anchor").

    I then scaled the tangents. Looks perfect even at huge zoom and with preview turned off.

     

    And as James says, the Arc tool is almost totally useless. Use the Ellipse tool for starters.

     
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    Dec 12, 2012 5:19 AM   in reply to CombinatoristAZ

    Here's how I would do it in InDesign, you could probably also do this in Illustrator, but I could not get the rotation to anchor in the lower left corner. BTW, I believe there is an InDesign plug-in specifically for math text.

    Draw a horizontal line, duplicate it. Draw a square white box the same size as your line on top of the line, group the line and box. Draw a circle and delete two of the anchor points to make an arc, send it to the back. Simply select the box and line group and rotate from the lower left corner to create any angle you want.

    arc.jpg

     
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