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PE's processing power compared to Premiere Pro CS6

Dec 12, 2012 1:43 AM

Tags: #pro #premiere_11 #processing_speed

I'm about to upgrade from Premiere Elements 4 and get a new Windows computer specifically for video editing. I'm happy with PE’s editing features, but the editing and burning process is much too slow. I’m sure a faster processor, more RAM, and better video card would help. Since I’m upgrading for speed, I’ve done a little research and found out about Pro’s Mercury Playback Engine, CUDA processing (with the right graphics card), and even read about the benefits of a Solid State hard drive. Before investing in all that expensive hardware, I’d like to know how PE’s processing and encoding system compares to that of Premiere Pro CS6. With optimal systems for each program, how does their processing power translate into length of time to encode per minute of video? Unless Pro is a whole lot faster, I don't think I can justify the extra expense for the software and hardware.

I understand PE 11 can run as a 64 bit application, but is it multithreaded? I've looked at the system requirements for PE 11, but I think what is listed is the minimum--what are the maximum specs without going over what it's capable of utilizing? Thanks for providing the information that will help me decide how much upgrading to do.

 
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    Dec 12, 2012 5:20 AM   in reply to day by day

    Processing power is a combination of the speed of your processor and the resolution of your video. It takes much longer, for instance, to render a high-def video than it does standard def DV.

     

    Solid state drives are pretty expensive! And they won't have much effect on your rendering and transcoding speed, so I'm not sure you'll get much bang for the buck on that investment.

     

    As it has with CS6, Adobe has done a major tune-up of the Premiere Elements in version 11. Particularly on an adequately powered machine (an i5 or better with an OSX or Windows 7 64-bit and a 4-6 gigs of RAM) you'll see a pretty significant boost in performance all around, including rendering. I don't know that there are "maximum specs" for it. It can take full advantage of a faster system with 64-bit architecture.

     

    How fast is your processor and how much RAM do you have?

     

    What format and resolution of video are you editing, and what are you transcoding it to?

     
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    Dec 12, 2012 6:05 AM   in reply to day by day

    As Steve points out, Adobe has increased the performance with PrE 11, and as with most 64-bit programs, on a 64-bit OS, one gets a major performance increase.

     

    However, PrPro CS 6, with MPE & CUDA, greatly accelerates many operations, but not all. This article has links to details on what MPE & CUDA can do, and where it does not improve performance: http://forums.adobe.com/message/4152667#4152667

     

    As for the hardware, this is one of the best articles on real-world performance for running Premiere (either flavor), that I have seen: http://forums.adobe.com/thread/947698?tstart=0 Harm Millaard has done a great deal of research, using the benchmarks from the PPBM6 Web site, and has quantified the equipment, that improves performance all the way around, with PrPro. He also shares observations and benchmarks on SSD's.

     

    I would read over both, before I put down money on a system, and then read over the MPE & CUDA articles, before deciding between the two versions of Premiere, especially as the performance increase in PrPro CS 6 comes with two price tags: the correct hardware, and then the cost differential of the program.

     

    Good luck, and when you have spec'ed. out your proposed system, please post to the Adobe Premiere Hardware Forum (where Harm's article is located), to ask for input on your selections. Lot of great hardware gurus over there, and pay special attention to replies from Harm, Bill G., Eric and Scott from ADK (they build custome video-editing workstations and laptops).

     

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    Dec 12, 2012 9:09 AM   in reply to day by day

    PPro makes use of the (more expensive) CUDA cores in an nVidia card... PreElements does not, so an ATI card works just fine... at least 512Meg of video ram, or 1Gig if you edit large pictures with Photoshop or Photoshop Elements (my thoughts on video ram, not official specifications)

     

    Do what you will with this list, but this is what I would build for 64bit PreElements 11

     

    Intel i7 3770 CPUhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116502
    Motherboardhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121599
    16Gig Ramhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148466
    Mid-Tower Casehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
    550w Power Supplyhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171038
    500Gig Drivehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769
    Install Windows and all software
    1Terabyte Drivehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236339
    Use for project files and media (video & sound) and temp files
    ATI 5450 1Gighttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102882
    More $$$ nVidia not needed, only Ppro uses CUDA cores
    120mm x2 Case Fanhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060
    1 in front to cool drives, 1 in side to cool CPU and graphics adapter
    Keyboard & Mousehttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109232
    Sata DVD Writerhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

     

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986
    Use Win7 64bit Home if you will NEVER go over 16gig ram
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116992
    Use Win7 64bit Pro to use more than 16gig ram
     
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    Dec 12, 2012 10:00 AM   in reply to day by day

    Added thought

     

    I recently built my wife a new computer, using the above list, except 32gig of ram because she likes to have "everything" open at the same time (no video editing, but she is a designer who uses a specialty CAD program for house design or remodel projects)

     

    Heat is the ENEMY of electronic components... which is why I bought, and specified in the list above, the added 2 case fans

     

    Using the stock Intel CPU cooler AND the added front & side case fans her temps are...

     

    CPU 84F and WD drives 77F and ATI card 91F

     
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    Dec 14, 2012 6:12 PM   in reply to day by day

    A newer nVidia, or AMD card w/ a minimum of 1GB VRAM should improve the refresh rate for the thumbnails. You can also speed that process up, if you toggle to either First Frame, or First & Last Frames.

     

    An SSD will improve bootup times, and will help launch programs a bit faster too. However, their write capabilities are still a bit slow, so I would add a fast mechanical HDD, with adequate capacity, with a SATA III controller, for the media, Projects, Scratch Disks, etc.. A third physical drive, and maybe a RAID w/ a dedicated RAID controller, would speed up Exports.

     

    Good luck,

     

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    Dec 14, 2012 7:14 PM   in reply to day by day

    >custom built turnkey system

     

    http://www.adkvideoediting.com/

    
     
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    Dec 14, 2012 8:13 PM   in reply to day by day

    The problem with upgrading components, attached to an older MoBo, is that one is often limited to only certain, older CPU's, and usually less RAM, or an older configuration of RAM. Heck, even the video card sockets have changed over the last few generations, and what was hot just a few years ago, is not even available now.

     

    I feel that component upgrades are only good for about 3 years. Beyond that, so very much has changed, that the BftB (Bang for the Buck) is in a new system. Heck, the last workstation that I built was actually ~ $ 500 less expensive, that my CompuAdd hot-rod 286 system, and was 1000x more powerful. The laptop that I have on order is about $ 250 less than the one that I am on now, and is about 5x more powerful.

     

    Good luck,

     

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